QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
on that play, is it not scheme/play design ?

Its a great scheme being executed at its highest level by great qb play. Two things being true at the same time.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
on that play, is it not scheme/play design ?

Its a great scheme being executed at its highest level by great qb play. Two things being true at the same time.

If Purdy stared at Aiyuk the whole time, and the safety sat in the passing lane, and then picked off the pass, would it still be "great scheme?" How would you even be able to tell?

You wouldn't. You can't have "great scheme" without also having "great QB play." They go hand in hand. The opposite is true as well. It's understandable for other teams' fans to hate on Purdy and/or Kyle and dismiss their success. Why some Niners fans do it is beyond me.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
on that play, is it not scheme/play design ?

Its a great scheme being executed at its highest level by great qb play. Two things being true at the same time.

it's a PA route combo every team has in their playbook, its not some special wicked mojo Kyle dreamed up and unveiled on Sunday.... the team and Brock executed it to perfection... the play is concept is based on what is called a horizontal stretch of the deep coverage, since the field is compressed it's stressing the playside safety to make a choice, cover Deebo and ignore BA behind (which he is not aware of yet) or just sit there and do nothing... you saw the result, Brocky looked at Deebo first (which is how inside breaking routes are progressed, from inside first to outside) and let the safety run with the bobber before setting the hook to turn back and sling it to the wide open BA.... Brocky was compeletely toying with the safety and fully owned him, and held him there until he was ready to turn back and hit BA

Originally posted by Furlow:
If Purdy stared at Aiyuk the whole time, and the safety sat in the passing lane, and then picked off the pass, would it still be "great scheme?" How would you even be able to tell?

You wouldn't. You can't have "great scheme" without also having "great QB play." They go hand in hand. The opposite is true as well. It's understandable for other teams' fans to hate on Purdy and/or Kyle and dismiss their success. Why some Niners fans do it is beyond me.

9ers have had a great scheme for 6+ years now. It's finally being consistently paired with great qb play.

Purdy is taking the scheme to another level because so far he's playing the position on a level we haven't seen before. That's what the clips consistently show. Better eyes, better footwork, better pocket presence, better reading of the defense. All of it.

Ahhh...everyone of us on Sunday

Sunday Purdy. Superbowl Purdy

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

#49ers Brock Purdy loving the vibes in Pittsburgh 🫡 pic.twitter.com/6F8rvhu8pE

— 𝙏𝙝𝙚𝙎𝙁𝙉𝙞𝙣𝙚𝙧𝙨 (@TheSFNiners) September 14, 2023

Ahhh...everyone of us on Sunday

Sunday Purdy. Superbowl Purdy

he has done it. he's achieved 100% approval rating, as a 49er QB. WZ history, has been made

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
on that play, is it not scheme/play design ?

Its a great scheme being executed at its highest level by great qb play. Two things being true at the same time.

it's a PA route combo every team has in their playbook, its not some special wicked mojo Kyle dreamed up and unveiled on Sunday.... the team and Brock executed it to perfection... the play is concept is based on what is called a horizontal stretch of the deep coverage, since the field is compressed it's stressing the playside safety to make a choice, cover Deebo and ignore BA behind (which he is not aware of yet) or just sit there and do nothing... you saw the result, Brocky looked at Deebo first (which is how inside breaking routes are progressed, from inside first to outside) and let the safety run with the bobber before setting the hook to turn back and sling it to the wide open BA.... Brocky was compeletely toying with the safety and fully owned him, and held him there until he was ready to turn back and hit BA

Exactly this. People acting like Kyle is some crazy mastermind who is coming up with plays no one has ever seen before. Lol it's ridiculous. He's a great playcaller and good at antipating what the other coach is going to do. He finds mismatches. But he NEEDS a QB who can execute his offense.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Furlow:
If Purdy stared at Aiyuk the whole time, and the safety sat in the passing lane, and then picked off the pass, would it still be "great scheme?" How would you even be able to tell?

You wouldn't. You can't have "great scheme" without also having "great QB play." They go hand in hand. The opposite is true as well. It's understandable for other teams' fans to hate on Purdy and/or Kyle and dismiss their success. Why some Niners fans do it is beyond me.

9ers have had a great scheme for 6+ years now. It's finally being consistently paired with great qb play.

Purdy is taking the scheme to another level because so far he's playing the position on a level we haven't seen before. That's what the clips consistently show. Better eyes, better footwork, better pocket presence, better reading of the defense. All of it.

How was that "great scheme" when the QB was:

Hoyer?
Beathard?
Trey?

Terrible. It was solid with Mullens but his success wasn't sustainable due to lack of physical talent. The scheme worked great under Jimmy, but Jimmy couldn't stay healthy and couldn't make plays outside of the scheme.

Now we have both in Purdy. Why some continue to downplay Purdy's ability to maximize Kyle's scheme and instead dismiss his amazing play as simply being a product of "Kyle's scheme" is weird and proves some still have an agenda.

Originally posted by Furlow:
Exactly this. People acting like Kyle is some crazy mastermind who is coming up with plays no one has ever seen before. Lol it's ridiculous. He's a great playcaller and good at antipating what the other coach is going to do. He finds mismatches. But he NEEDS a QB who can execute his offense.

Again both can be true. What he needed is a guy who can see the field great, has real pocket presence, and does the little things right consistently. Results are clear.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
on that play, is it not scheme/play design ?

Its a great scheme being executed at its highest level by great qb play. Two things being true at the same time.

it's a PA route combo every team has in their playbook, its not some special wicked mojo Kyle dreamed up and unveiled on Sunday.... the team and Brock executed it to perfection... the play is concept is based on what is called a horizontal stretch of the deep coverage, since the field is compressed it's stressing the playside safety to make a choice, cover Deebo and ignore BA behind (which he is not aware of yet) or just sit there and do nothing... you saw the result, Brocky looked at Deebo first (which is how inside breaking routes are progressed, from inside first to outside) and let the safety run with the bobber before setting the hook to turn back and sling it to the wide open BA.... Brocky was compeletely toying with the safety and fully owned him, and held him there until he was ready to turn back and hit BA

Exactly this. People acting like Kyle is some crazy mastermind who is coming up with plays no one has ever seen before. Lol it's ridiculous. He's a great playcaller and good at antipating what the other coach is going to do. He finds mismatches. But he NEEDS a QB who can execute his offense.

There are some pass plays that Kyle dials up that seem unique to me, but for the most part, his pass play designs aren't innovative where no team has ever ran them before. Kyle's talent as a playcaller are the sequencing of his plays (setting up a defense) and the ability to anticipate what the DC is about to call. imo.

Here's that play. On this particular play, Brock looking to Deebo first, then Aiyuk, is the natural progression of the reads. Like stated above it's a horizontal stretch and most horizontal stretch plays are read inside-out (Deebo to Aiyuk).

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Furlow:
If Purdy stared at Aiyuk the whole time, and the safety sat in the passing lane, and then picked off the pass, would it still be "great scheme?" How would you even be able to tell?

You wouldn't. You can't have "great scheme" without also having "great QB play." They go hand in hand. The opposite is true as well. It's understandable for other teams' fans to hate on Purdy and/or Kyle and dismiss their success. Why some Niners fans do it is beyond me.

9ers have had a great scheme for 6+ years now. It's finally being consistently paired with great qb play.

Purdy is taking the scheme to another level because so far he's playing the position on a level we haven't seen before. That's what the clips consistently show. Better eyes, better footwork, better pocket presence, better reading of the defense. All of it.

How was that "great scheme" when the QB was:

Hoyer?
Beathard?
Trey?

Terrible. It was solid with Mullens but his success wasn't sustainable due to lack of physical talent. The scheme worked great under Jimmy, but Jimmy couldn't stay healthy and couldn't make plays outside of the scheme.

Now we have both in Purdy. Why some continue to downplay Purdy's ability to maximize Kyle's scheme and instead dismiss his amazing play as simply being a product of "Kyle's scheme" is weird and proves some still have an agenda.

Who has done that?

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
on that play, is it not scheme/play design ?

Its a great scheme being executed at its highest level by great qb play. Two things being true at the same time.

If Purdy stared at Aiyuk the whole time, and the safety sat in the passing lane, and then picked off the pass, would it still be "great scheme?" How would you even be able to tell?

You wouldn't. You can't have "great scheme" without also having "great QB play." They go hand in hand. The opposite is true as well. It's understandable for other teams' fans to hate on Purdy and/or Kyle and dismiss their success. Why some Niners fans do it is beyond me.

jimmy used to stare down his targets all the time and still complete them.. also was intercepted a lot too

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
on that play, is it not scheme/play design ?

Its a great scheme being executed at its highest level by great qb play. Two things being true at the same time.

it's a PA route combo every team has in their playbook, its not some special wicked mojo Kyle dreamed up and unveiled on Sunday.... the team and Brock executed it to perfection... the play is concept is based on what is called a horizontal stretch of the deep coverage, since the field is compressed it's stressing the playside safety to make a choice, cover Deebo and ignore BA behind (which he is not aware of yet) or just sit there and do nothing... you saw the result, Brocky looked at Deebo first (which is how inside breaking routes are progressed, from inside first to outside) and let the safety run with the bobber before setting the hook to turn back and sling it to the wide open BA.... Brocky was compeletely toying with the safety and fully owned him, and held him there until he was ready to turn back and hit BA

Exactly this. People acting like Kyle is some crazy mastermind who is coming up with plays no one has ever seen before. Lol it's ridiculous. He's a great playcaller and good at antipating what the other coach is going to do. He finds mismatches. But he NEEDS a QB who can execute his offense.

There are some pass plays that Kyle dials up that seem unique to me, but for the most part, his pass play designs aren't innovative where no team has ever ran them before. Kyle's talent as a playcaller are the sequencing of his plays (setting up a defense) and the ability to anticipate what the DC is about to call. imo.

Here's that play. On this particular play, Brock looking to Deebo first, then Aiyuk, is the natural progression of the reads. Like stated above it's a horizontal stretch and most horizontal stretch plays are read inside-out (Deebo to Aiyuk).

100% agreed. Some of the run plays that only gain 2-3 yards are frustrating, but then he'll run PA off of them later in the game and you can see the LB's and SS bite hard. He sets up chunk plays very well. Still need a QB who understands that strategy and is able/willing to pull the trigger when the opportunity is there.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Furlow:
If Purdy stared at Aiyuk the whole time, and the safety sat in the passing lane, and then picked off the pass, would it still be "great scheme?" How would you even be able to tell?

You wouldn't. You can't have "great scheme" without also having "great QB play." They go hand in hand. The opposite is true as well. It's understandable for other teams' fans to hate on Purdy and/or Kyle and dismiss their success. Why some Niners fans do it is beyond me.

9ers have had a great scheme for 6+ years now. It's finally being consistently paired with great qb play.

Purdy is taking the scheme to another level because so far he's playing the position on a level we haven't seen before. That's what the clips consistently show. Better eyes, better footwork, better pocket presence, better reading of the defense. All of it.

How was that "great scheme" when the QB was:

Hoyer?
Beathard?
Trey?

Terrible. It was solid with Mullens but his success wasn't sustainable due to lack of physical talent. The scheme worked great under Jimmy, but Jimmy couldn't stay healthy and couldn't make plays outside of the scheme.

Now we have both in Purdy. Why some continue to downplay Purdy's ability to maximize Kyle's scheme and instead dismiss his amazing play as simply being a product of "Kyle's scheme" is weird and proves some still have an agenda.

Who has done that?

Lol stop it.

Lighting quick decision if his 1st read is covered or the play goes off schedule. Brock didn't have to catchup to the speed of the NFL when he came in last year, cause he was already there. And most likely already ahead of the NFL now. Totally insane. The elites like Brady, Manning(threw a bunch of INT 1st year), Mahomes, all had to sit for a year or more to get to where Brock is now, the mental nuances of the passing game. Russell Wilson was the closest case, but he didn't have the nuance understanding of the passing offense like Brock when he first started.