QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by okdkid:
We are way past the "defensive coordinators will figure him out" stage.

You can't out scheme elite accuracy, anticipation, recognition and touch.

He's not a one trick pony with a small subset of skills you can neutralize. He waits for you to declare your defense of him and he dices you up.

It definitely feels like a lazy cope at this point.

At least when people said the same about Kap after 2012, they actually pointed out real concerns like how infrequently he went through his reads. For Jimmy, they pointed out how he often doesn't see linebacker coverage in the middle.

Other than not detecting and responding to pressure very well on the right, there aren't any specific flaws for Purdy people have been able to point to other than "he was drafted low! He has to have so many major flaws! They'll figure him out!"

The thing that stands out to me the most from last season to this season atleast during week 1 so far anyway is Purdy is staying in the pocket longer, he is stepping up into the pocket and he isn't drifting out of the pocket to the left as frequently. Those were my biggest knocks on his game last year. Looks like he has been working on those pocket skills and it has showed so far.

Originally posted by 49erKing:
He said his pupils sometimes can add 1 or maybe even 2 mph to their throws over the course of an offseason. When Purdy properly planted his feet and took full advantage of the considerable torque available in his lower body, his maximum velocity leaped by nearly 5 mph to 55 1/2 mph. To put that in context, Colin Kaepernick, a quarterback known for his big arm, threw a then-record 59 mph pass at the 2011 NFL Scouting Combine.

https://theathletic.com/4864269/2023/09/16/brock-purdy-thighs-49ers/

That's what I'm saying - his arm being weak is a joke. I think it's fair to say he doesn't have a high end arm, like Josh allen or mahommes - looks like more than enough. He hits a lot of tight windows and has great anticipation

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
To Deebo is the only one that makes sense to me. On all 22, Deebo turns to the outside and sits. So if Brock was headsup, he would've hit Deebo as soon as he see Fitzpatrick came

I think that was supposed to be the hot route, but if Brock got the ball out in time it would have hit deebo in the back of the helmet.

By the time deebo turned around it was already way too late.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
The thing that stands out to me the most from last season to this season atleast during week 1 so far anyway is Purdy is staying in the pocket longer, he is stepping up into the pocket and he isn't drifting out of the pocket to the left as frequently. Those were my biggest knocks on his game last year. Looks like he has been working on those pocket skills and it has showed so far.

Noticed as well. He did that a TON last year, even on the play where Fitzpatrick blitzed he did, but still made an amazing throw. I'm positive it's something they're working on because opposing Ds notices it and will try to exploit.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49erKing:
He said his pupils sometimes can add 1 or maybe even 2 mph to their throws over the course of an offseason. When Purdy properly planted his feet and took full advantage of the considerable torque available in his lower body, his maximum velocity leaped by nearly 5 mph to 55 1/2 mph. To put that in context, Colin Kaepernick, a quarterback known for his big arm, threw a then-record 59 mph pass at the 2011 NFL Scouting Combine.

https://theathletic.com/4864269/2023/09/16/brock-purdy-thighs-49ers/

That's what I'm saying - his arm being weak is a joke. I think it's fair to say he doesn't have a high end arm, like Josh allen or mahommes - looks like more than enough. He hits a lot of tight windows and has great anticipation

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Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49erKing:
He said his pupils sometimes can add 1 or maybe even 2 mph to their throws over the course of an offseason. When Purdy properly planted his feet and took full advantage of the considerable torque available in his lower body, his maximum velocity leaped by nearly 5 mph to 55 1/2 mph. To put that in context, Colin Kaepernick, a quarterback known for his big arm, threw a then-record 59 mph pass at the 2011 NFL Scouting Combine.

https://theathletic.com/4864269/2023/09/16/brock-purdy-thighs-49ers/

That's what I'm saying - his arm being weak is a joke. I think it's fair to say he doesn't have a high end arm, like Josh allen or mahommes - looks like more than enough. He hits a lot of tight windows and has great anticipation

Agree 💯%, once you meet Kyle's minimums, that means you can run 💯% of his offense. That's all he needs. It would be nice to have a Pat Mahomes, but usually they only make one of those.

After tomorrow's game the Niners will have 3 of their next 5 games on prime time. That will be Brock's opportunity to move up the QB rankings.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49erKing:
He said his pupils sometimes can add 1 or maybe even 2 mph to their throws over the course of an offseason. When Purdy properly planted his feet and took full advantage of the considerable torque available in his lower body, his maximum velocity leaped by nearly 5 mph to 55 1/2 mph. To put that in context, Colin Kaepernick, a quarterback known for his big arm, threw a then-record 59 mph pass at the 2011 NFL Scouting Combine.

https://theathletic.com/4864269/2023/09/16/brock-purdy-thighs-49ers/

That's what I'm saying - his arm being weak is a joke. I think it's fair to say he doesn't have a high end arm, like Josh allen or mahommes - looks like more than enough. He hits a lot of tight windows and has great anticipation

Agree 💯%, once you meet Kyle's minimums, that means you can run 💯% of his offense. That's all he needs. It would be nice to have a Pat Mahomes, but usually they only make one of those.

If players like Brady/Montana/Bree's etc can become all time greats without having anything physical special about them, then I don't see why Brock can't. I just don't think any of his physical traits are so weak that it could hold him back.

I'd be concerned if he had Shaun hills arm. Lol like you said, If you can meet the minimums, you're good.

Originally posted by JTB1974:
After tomorrow's game the Niners will have 3 of their next 5 games on prime time. That will be Brock's opportunity to move up the QB rankings.

I think 4/5 of the next five games will be relatively easy, very winnable. It's the cowboys game that is going to be really tough. Fortunately it's a home game.

Rams - I feel like we should win but divisional games are always unpredictable.

giants - I like their head coach but I've felt like they're way overrated.

Cards - lol

Cowboys - like I said, will be a really tough game. Going to need to play really well and our defense as healthy as possible. Will need bosa in game shape, for sure.

browns - I think we will win but this could be a tough game. They have a really solid overall team

Vikings - joke. Idk why shanahan is so wet for cousins but the team lacks a lot of positions.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by JTB1974:
After tomorrow's game the Niners will have 3 of their next 5 games on prime time. That will be Brock's opportunity to move up the QB rankings.

I think 4/5 of the next five games will be relatively easy, very winnable. It's the cowboys game that is going to be really tough. Fortunately it's a home game.

Rams - I feel like we should win but divisional games are always unpredictable.

giants - I like their head coach but I've felt like they're way overrated.

Cards - lol

Cowboys - like I said, will be a really tough game. Going to need to play really well and our defense as healthy as possible. Will need bosa in game shape, for sure.

browns - I think we will win but this could be a tough game. They have a really solid overall team

Vikings - joke. Idk why shanahan is so wet for cousins but the team lacks a lot of positions.

If there is one game I want Purdy to play well in, it's the Cowboys game.

For many obvious reasons, that's the one game he has a chance to officially swing the consensus national narrative from "well maybe…" to "okay yep. He's that guy."

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49erKing:
He said his pupils sometimes can add 1 or maybe even 2 mph to their throws over the course of an offseason. When Purdy properly planted his feet and took full advantage of the considerable torque available in his lower body, his maximum velocity leaped by nearly 5 mph to 55 1/2 mph. To put that in context, Colin Kaepernick, a quarterback known for his big arm, threw a then-record 59 mph pass at the 2011 NFL Scouting Combine.

https://theathletic.com/4864269/2023/09/16/brock-purdy-thighs-49ers/

That's what I'm saying - his arm being weak is a joke. I think it's fair to say he doesn't have a high end arm, like Josh allen or mahommes - looks like more than enough. He hits a lot of tight windows and has great anticipation

Agree 💯%, once you meet Kyle's minimums, that means you can run 💯% of his offense. That's all he needs. It would be nice to have a Pat Mahomes, but usually they only make one of those.

If players like Brady/Montana/Bree's etc can become all time greats without having anything physical special about them, then I don't see why Brock can't. I just don't think any of his physical traits are so weak that it could hold him back.

I'd be concerned if he had Shaun hills arm. Lol like you said, If you can meet the minimums, you're good.

Agree 💯%, and most folks keep forgetting that its a team game. If Montana can throw a three yard slant - with timing and accuracy - and John Taylor goes 99+ yards for a TD, how strong an arm do you need to operate the offense?

Point is that Deebo's and Aiyuk's skill set and ceiling can also raise the QB's (so called) ceiling. A lot of folks get enamored with a certain player having great attributes, but if John Elway is throwing to crap receivers in the Super Bowl, he's going to lose 55-10. Then you have Joe throwing to some decent WR's, and Joe will win every super bowl he's going to play in. Just that simple. It's a team game.

Originally posted by tankle104:
If players like Brady/Montana/Bree's etc can become all time greats without having anything physical special about them, then I don't see why Brock can't. I just don't think any of his physical traits are so weak that it could hold him back.

I'd be concerned if he had Shaun hills arm. Lol like you said, If you can meet the minimums, you're good.

If you think that someone who's won a SB MVP title at 43 doesn't have special physical traits...

Originally posted by zugschef:

Originally posted by tankle104:
If players like Brady/Montana/Bree's etc can become all time greats without having anything physical special about them, then I don't see why Brock can't. I just don't think any of his physical traits are so weak that it could hold him back.

I'd be concerned if he had Shaun hills arm. Lol like you said, If you can meet the minimums, you're good.

If you think that someone who's won a SB MVP title at 43 doesn't have special physical traits...

I think Brady took of his body better than any QB ever has. I think Brady's special ability is his mind, work ethic, competitiveness. Leadership, protecting himself on the field so he didn't get hurt. Brady really took a ton of initiative to protective himself and not take major hits, if he could. His last 10 years he would try to fall to the ground before taking a hit, if he could.

I think Brady is a special player, but I don't think his physical tools made him special at all. Which is why I always laugh when someone tries to say he's special. If you watched Brady early to mid of his career - he was a laughing physically.

I think he had solid physical tools and he def made his arm better over time. I'm not saying he's a chump. Lol I'm just saying he isn't in the real physically as guys like mahommes, Josh allen etc and it's fine. He doesn't need to be. Guys like Bree's weren't and they didn't need to be. Guys like Payton manning weren't and he didn't need to be.

it's really just understanding that playing QB is different than any other position in the nfl. Every other position REQUIRES great physical tools and/or they help you a lot. Not qb

Originally posted by JTB1974:
After tomorrow's game the Niners will have 3 of their next 5 games on prime time. That will be Brock's opportunity to move up the QB rankings.

Yeah, I think a lot of people just look at the stat line and see that Brock isn't throwing for over 300 yards etc… If people actually watch him play, really should change some feelings when you consider everything, last pick, less then a seasons worth of experience, the kid has played like a seasoned vet from the moment he stepped on the field and been impressive ever since.

Originally posted by TyCore:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Kyle Shanahan explains what makes Brock Purdy the "real deal" 👀

(➡️ @zennioptical) pic.twitter.com/itQymUPNoI

— 49ers on NBCS (@NBCS49ers) September 15, 2023

Who was running the hot route on this play?

It was hard to see where he was supposed to go with the ball when I watched the breakdown.

I don't know why Kyle thinks he can see the hot read with the Dline in his face. He sometimes does not understand the trenches when his right side of the line keeps getting beat and the hot read is not visible. EGO that's his plays always work and that the constant pressure from the right side is killing him. Kudos for Brock jukeing Fitz on the left side blitz. 👏