QB Brock Purdy Thread

Yes, finally we are talking about brock's juicy thighs

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49erKing:
He said his pupils sometimes can add 1 or maybe even 2 mph to their throws over the course of an offseason. When Purdy properly planted his feet and took full advantage of the considerable torque available in his lower body, his maximum velocity leaped by nearly 5 mph to 55 1/2 mph. To put that in context, Colin Kaepernick, a quarterback known for his big arm, threw a then-record 59 mph pass at the 2011 NFL Scouting Combine.

https://theathletic.com/4864269/2023/09/16/brock-purdy-thighs-49ers/

That's what I'm saying - his arm being weak is a joke. I think it's fair to say he doesn't have a high end arm, like Josh allen or mahommes - looks like more than enough. He hits a lot of tight windows and has great anticipation

Agree 💯%, once you meet Kyle's minimums, that means you can run 💯% of his offense. That's all he needs. It would be nice to have a Pat Mahomes, but usually they only make one of those.

If players like Brady/Montana/Bree's etc can become all time greats without having anything physical special about them, then I don't see why Brock can't. I just don't think any of his physical traits are so weak that it could hold him back.

I'd be concerned if he had Shaun hills arm. Lol like you said, If you can meet the minimums, you're good.

Agree 💯%, and most folks keep forgetting that its a team game. If Montana can throw a three yard slant - with timing and accuracy - and John Taylor goes 99+ yards for a TD, how strong an arm do you need to operate the offense?

Point is that Deebo's and Aiyuk's skill set and ceiling can also raise the QB's (so called) ceiling. A lot of folks get enamored with a certain player having great attributes, but if John Elway is throwing to crap receivers in the Super Bowl, he's going to lose 55-10. Then you have Joe throwing to some decent WR's, and Joe will win every super bowl he's going to play in. Just that simple. It's a team game.

Isn't it like some ridiculously low percentage of plays are over 20 yards? Like 90%+ is 20 or less yards across the nfl. Football, To me, isn't playing bullyball and then chucking it downfield to get a gain anymore.

even when you look at Mahommes, most of his plays are 20 or less yards, just tons of YAC by his guys.

It's a team sport, like you said, and there are a lot of ways to make big plays. As long someone can really throw 30-40 yards accurately - that's all you need. Idk if I've ever seen a big time throw for 90 yards. Those were all short plays that went the distance.

it's nice to have that kind of ability in your back pocket but it's very unnecessary.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Yes, finally we are talking about brock's juicy thighs

Hahaha ahh yeah! I wonder if he's hard to tackle cause he's so low to the ground. He's taken some brutal sacks but they seem to usually be blindside sacks that he didn't see at all

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Yes, finally we are talking about brock's juicy thighs

Bosa 'mirin.

What's crazy is how bad Iowa state has been since Brock left. They had winning seasons for four straight years with him (something they hadn't done in a 100 years). Then last season they had one of their worst offenses ever. Now they are 1-2 lol scored 7 points today.

wild how much he masked. That's what all the best QBs do.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by zugschef:

Originally posted by tankle104:
If players like Brady/Montana/Bree's etc can become all time greats without having anything physical special about them, then I don't see why Brock can't. I just don't think any of his physical traits are so weak that it could hold him back.

I'd be concerned if he had Shaun hills arm. Lol like you said, If you can meet the minimums, you're good.

If you think that someone who's won a SB MVP title at 43 doesn't have special physical traits...

I think Brady took of his body better than any QB ever has. I think Brady's special ability is his mind, work ethic, competitiveness. Leadership, protecting himself on the field so he didn't get hurt. Brady really took a ton of initiative to protective himself and not take major hits, if he could. His last 10 years he would try to fall to the ground before taking a hit, if he could.

I think Brady is a special player, but I don't think his physical tools made him special at all. Which is why I always laugh when someone tries to say he's special. If you watched Brady early to mid of his career - he was a laughing physically.

I think he had solid physical tools and he def made his arm better over time. I'm not saying he's a chump. Lol I'm just saying he isn't in the real physically as guys like mahommes, Josh allen etc and it's fine. He doesn't need to be. Guys like Bree's weren't and they didn't need to be. Guys like Payton manning weren't and he didn't need to be.

it's really just understanding that playing QB is different than any other position in the nfl. Every other position REQUIRES great physical tools and/or they help you a lot. Not qb

I have to respectfully disagree here a little bit. By the time 2007 came around he had a top third arm in terms of raw arm strength. I've been told he improved that over time, but I think what really happened is the Patriots' system was designed to be horizontal because their receivers were quicker than fast, and as soon as they got Randy Moss, suddenly Brady's arm strength got better. Lol. No, they just changed their scheme. For example, this third TD of 2007 was thrown from his 41 and caught at the 3, across the hashes, and was a perfectly accurate dime, with no signs of struggle to throw it. Just one hitch.

So I'd say Brady was a bit more physically talented (at least his arm) than guys like Brees or Manning. Joe of course was a lot more athletic than him.

29th is some latest QB ranking on the internet. Do these people even watch the games at all? Because there is no way you could watch last year and this year and say that. OMG. What a bunch of idiots. He's light years ahead of that. You going to put him behind struggling QB's like Fields? He's way better than that. They just relentlessly stick with NARRATIVE and DRAFT STATUS.

Forget his draft status. Watch HOW HE PLAYS!

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by TyCore:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Kyle Shanahan explains what makes Brock Purdy the "real deal" 👀

(➡️ @zennioptical) pic.twitter.com/itQymUPNoI

— 49ers on NBCS (@NBCS49ers) September 15, 2023

Who was running the hot route on this play?

It was hard to see where he was supposed to go with the ball when I watched the breakdown.

I don't know why Kyle thinks he can see the hot read with the Dline in his face. He sometimes does not understand the trenches when his right side of the line keeps getting beat and the hot read is not visible. EGO that's his plays always work and that the constant pressure from the right side is killing him. Kudos for Brock jukeing Fitz on the left side blitz. 👏

If Deebo was the hot route, that's poorly conceived. If Mitchell is the hot route, my guy Kyle you can't have a hot route on the other side of the field and expect the QB to go from the blitzer to that hot. I don't like it.

Mostly I love Kyle's scheme, but on empty sets you got to have better answers against blitzes. Unless in Kyle's system his "hot routes" are more like Madden hot routes where the QB has to signal before the snap or something.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
29th is some latest QB ranking on the internet. Do these people even watch the games at all? Because there is no way you could watch last year and this year and say that. OMG. What a bunch of idiots. He's light years ahead of that. You going to put him behind struggling QB's like Fields? He's way better than that. They just relentlessly stick with NARRATIVE and DRAFT STATUS.

Forget his draft status. Watch HOW HE PLAYS!

Me thinks they're ranking by potential in part. But as a wise man once said (me), "Potential is a fart in the wind."

I still cant believe how butthurt the nfl is over Purdy

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
You can point out that Purdy doesn't have a really strong arm just like you can say he's not real big. That doesn't mean you hate him. Those are just facts. He has a great feel for the game and finds the oen receiver quickly. Those are also facts. Neither of those statements mean you hate or love Purdy. I can't hate any QB that helps the 49ers win no matter how strong his arm or how big he is.

I agree that Brock doesn't have a strong arm and that he isn't very big - but I feel like too many people exaggerate his size.

aaron Rodgers is 0.08 Centimeters taller than Brock. Joe montana was 0.08 centimeters taller than Brock.

for context, 0.08 centimeter is 3% of 1 inch

his arm was much weaker in college, it would if Been "less than average" in the league but with the improvements it's "above average". - so def not strong but it sure isn't weak. If anything, I'd just say Brock doesn't have the ability to make big time throws off platform.

I just feel like anyone says Brock is "small", then they need to say Steve young, Joe montana, Aaron Rodgers etc are all small guys and undersized too.

Joe and Steve played over 20 years ago when players were smaller. You didn't see 240-250 lbs QBs that could run. By todays standards, Brock isn't big and physical. He's average.

Originally posted by Montana:
Steve Young didn't have a strong arm. ..lol yeah, his legs weren't much either haha..

https://www.49ers.com/video/steve-young-s-entire-hall-of-fame-career-in-highlights-49ers-quarterback

Ppl gotta always pick on us lefties 😄

Steve Young had fast legs and an ACCURATE arm. His arm was not the strongest. He had great reads, anticipation and throwing with accuracy.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
29th is some latest QB ranking on the internet. Do these people even watch the games at all? Because there is no way you could watch last year and this year and say that. OMG. What a bunch of idiots. He's light years ahead of that. You going to put him behind struggling QB's like Fields? He's way better than that. They just relentlessly stick with NARRATIVE and DRAFT STATUS.

Forget his draft status. Watch HOW HE PLAYS!

Me thinks they're ranking by potential in part. But as a wise man once said (me), "Potential is a fart in the wind."

Just watch the way he PLAYS instead of obsessing about draft status. He was mis drafted. That's obvious. He's much better than where he was drafted. Way, way better.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by TyCore:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Kyle Shanahan explains what makes Brock Purdy the "real deal" 👀

(➡️ @zennioptical) pic.twitter.com/itQymUPNoI

— 49ers on NBCS (@NBCS49ers) September 15, 2023

Who was running the hot route on this play?

It was hard to see where he was supposed to go with the ball when I watched the breakdown.

I don't know why Kyle thinks he can see the hot read with the Dline in his face. He sometimes does not understand the trenches when his right side of the line keeps getting beat and the hot read is not visible. EGO that's his plays always work and that the constant pressure from the right side is killing him. Kudos for Brock jukeing Fitz on the left side blitz. 👏

If Deebo was the hot route, that's poorly conceived. If Mitchell is the hot route, my guy Kyle you can't have a hot route on the other side of the field and expect the QB to go from the blitzer to that hot. I don't like it.

Mostly I love Kyle's scheme, but on empty sets you got to have better answers against blitzes. Unless in Kyle's system his "hot routes" are more like Madden hot routes where the QB has to signal before the snap or something.

Agree 💯% - some of those schemes and concepts just sometimes don't work in certain down and distances. I'll just add another pet peeve of mine regarding Kyle's schemes. What he does a lot is do a lot of throw away downs. He'll call a run that only gets two yard (for example), because it's setting something else up later. What I'd like is for those *throw away* downs to be designed more systematically - meaning they actually gain some yardage, say around 3 or 4 yards vs 1 or 2. In other words, look at those *throw away* downs more schematically, and figure out a way to have the ideal personnel to actually gain some yardage on those throw away downs. It will make the explosives he's trying to set up later, be even MORE explosive.

Don't get me wrong, I love 99% of Kyle's entire offensive set up and concepts, it's just the minor peripheral things, that I have a quibble about.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
You can point out that Purdy doesn't have a really strong arm just like you can say he's not real big. That doesn't mean you hate him. Those are just facts. He has a great feel for the game and finds the oen receiver quickly. Those are also facts. Neither of those statements mean you hate or love Purdy. I can't hate any QB that helps the 49ers win no matter how strong his arm or how big he is.

I agree that Brock doesn't have a strong arm and that he isn't very big - but I feel like too many people exaggerate his size.

aaron Rodgers is 0.08 Centimeters taller than Brock. Joe montana was 0.08 centimeters taller than Brock.

for context, 0.08 centimeter is 3% of 1 inch

his arm was much weaker in college, it would if Been "less than average" in the league but with the improvements it's "above average". - so def not strong but it sure isn't weak. If anything, I'd just say Brock doesn't have the ability to make big time throws off platform.

I just feel like anyone says Brock is "small", then they need to say Steve young, Joe montana, Aaron Rodgers etc are all small guys and undersized too.

Joe and Steve played over 20 years ago when players were smaller. You didn't see 240-250 lbs QBs that could run. By todays standards, Brock isn't big and physical. He's average.

I'm fine saying he's average, I'm not trying to make
the argument that he is big, at all. I just don't think he's small.

if you've noticed, and Brock's even mentioned this,
he has short legs for his height. That is one reason his 10 yard split is so impressive but it's also a reason why he looks shorter than he is.