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Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by Kali49er:
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Had to share Cohn's analysis of Purdy

Threw for 310 yards, two touchdowns and no interceptions, posted a passer rating of 111.3, and yet those numbers don't show how many check down passes went for big gains because great players picked up big yardage after the catch. Purdy's two touchdown passes were absolute dimes, but he also threw at least two other passes that should have been intercepted, plus he fumbled a snap for the second time this season. Overall, Purdy played well, but not as well as last week when he missed three deep passes. His play has gotten slightly worse every week this year. Perhaps the league is beginning to catch up with him. He'll need to play much better to beat playoff teams.

You have to wonder, if there's something psychological going on here. Lol

Yes, there definitely is. It's called TDS (tiny dick syndrome). It's main symptoms are extreme ignorance of the game of football, an unusually severe disconnect between perception and reality, and a penis the size of a tic-tac. It is most common among talent-less hack nepo-babies whose fathers carry the genetic marker for it.


You can say what you want, but I think looking at performance with the context is important! Fact is out of Purdy's 310 yards he threw for, 201 came from all star players getting YAC. That means, against the NY Giants, in 4 quarters Purdy only threw for 109 yards. Not going to cut it against a super bowl defense and offense. Luckily, most teams don't have both of those like we do and I think we have the best roster in the league. No teams can compete with that. But Purdy is great at making plays out of nothing, escaping pressure, and makes good decisions. His deep balls were nice yesterday and his 2 TD passes were elite! The second we pay him like a franchise QB and lose all that talent around him, our fanbase may be in for a rude awakening. But if we can find a way to keep him with this same roster for the next 5 years, we'll be competing for Superbowls. He is the person we need with this roster to win games. Way better than Jimmy G in my opinion. Cohn likes to hate on the niners and be negative, but at the same time a lot of fans live with rose colored glasses on and don't actually see what's happening in front of them. I think as a fan you need to root for your team and players and want them to succeed and be good, but that does not mean ignoring all the things that aren't great. We have to be balanced. Either way, I love watching Purdy way more than Jimmy and hope he stays healthy because if Darnold has to play that would not be good. This is our year to bring home that sixth Lombardi and long as Purdy and supporting cast stay healthy!

You can work the numbers to try and downgrade his performance if that is what makes you happy (as dumb as that is), I don't care one way or another. But I have to ask what this has to do with Grant Cohn and his unfortunate, but well earned, genetic penile disorder?

The account has only posted 44 times in the past 11 years. Probably a Cohn account.

You're probably right. Or one of his sycophants who have a craving for tic-tacs. Grant Cohn followers should here forth be labeled the TDS (tiny dick squad).

LMAO
Memphis on a roll today, who pissed in your cheerios

I'm an old man with a low tolerance for dumbassery and b******t.I have become the old man Clint Eastwood meme from Gran Torino.
Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
For those that missed it, Fitzy got Brock in touch with the best QB to ever lose to Montana in a Super Bowl.


Born Dec 27 1999.... JFC im getting old.
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Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Giedi:
I have to look at the philm, but from what I've seen of the 49ers/Giants highlights, the right side of the line progressed (again, I reserve my right to change my opinion after I look at the game replays) but it looks like the right side did good in picking up the multiple blitzes and also did some good (not great) run blocking and moved the NY Giant's DLine around for some good right side runs. Ironically, the left side regressed a bit. Trent with a couple of penalties, and Banks, I think missed a couple of blocks. Still that left side run game is explosive behind Trent, Banks, and Brendel.

I'd like to see that OLine do better in pass protection. Yes, they got blitzed a TON, but there were some missed blocks that Brock still got some good passes out of. If he had more time, he'd have done better. Probably scored closer to 40 points vs 30. Losing Aiyuk reduced some of the vertical attack dimension the 49ers usually have. Bell was a nice addition and looks good as a player. This is another 7th round gem found by ShanaLynch. I would have liked to have seen Mason used earlier, but I understand that it was still a close game going into the 4th quarter.

Ownership is correct to extend ShanaLynch, before the price gets too high. Because if not now, their price might not just double, but TRIPPLE!

Kyle said he reviewed the games film and was more impressed with Brock than he was originally cause of the pressure and missed assignments by the o line, and Brock still made plays. I love it!

i think our o line is playing solid - not great but not bad. The left side is fine, not concerned there. Brendel seems to struggle with interior pass blocking and the RG (can't remeber his name at the moment) seems to be really struggling.

They do seem to have improved though each game, which is what you want. I expected mckivitz to struggle because he's inexperienced and he's had tough competition. I just want them to get keeping better.

i think about the way Brock has handled it, and man… Jimmy would of lost us a game or two already. I really like jimmy and supported him but seeing the difference in how Brock anticipates and trusts his guys to make a play, his slick mobility - it's really saved our ass in quite a few situations so far. I just want the boys to get keeping better and better, stack em! Just like we are doing

The OLine is getting better, I mean you don't rack up 400+ yards if your offensive line sucks. Having said that, Jimmy was pretty good once CMC got here. He was also - in a sense - unbeaten with CMC. What (to me) is the difference between Jimmy and Purdy is accuracy, mobility, mechanics, football intelligence and Age, and that's it. I personally think Jimmy and Brock have similar arm strength and other physical attributes.

My biggest worry for Purdy is that his OLine won't keep him healthy. That worry is slowly fading as the OLine has done a good job (so far) in keeping him upright. I think if the OLine can give him 3+ seconds in the pocket, he can slice and dice *any defense* in the NFL. 🏹 up on the OLine, so far.
Originally posted by Giedi:
The OLine is getting better, I mean you don't rack up 400+ yards if your offensive line sucks. Having said that, Jimmy was pretty good once CMC got here. He was also - in a sense - unbeaten with CMC. What (to me) is the difference between Jimmy and Purdy is accuracy, mobility, mechanics, football intelligence and Age, and that's it. I personally think Jimmy and Brock have similar arm strength and other physical attributes.

My biggest worry for Purdy is that his OLine won't keep him healthy. That worry is slowly fading as the OLine has done a good job (so far) in keeping him upright. I think if the OLine can give him 3+ seconds in the pocket, he can slice and dice *any defense* in the NFL. 🏹 up on the OLine, so far.

I feel like Brock does a better job with composure and not responding poorly to situations, I felt like jimmy would get overwhelmed at times (not often, but it happened a handful of times).

im more so concerned that Brock is going to put himself in harms way to make plays and get injured that way. Than I am with him getting sacked from poor o line play. Lol I love and respect his toughness snd willingness to take a hit to make a throw but I wish he would protect himself better - can only take so many of those hits.
I REALLY need someone to help explain the total QBR to me. Last night, Purdy completed 67.6%, averaged 8.4, had 2 TDs, 310 yards and a rating of 111.3. Total QBR, however, was 58.3. First game VS Pittsburgh he completed 65.5%, averaged 7.6, had 2 TDs, and a rating the exact same of 111.3, but a total QBR of 94.3. How does that make sense?
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
I REALLY need someone to help explain the total QBR to me. Last night, Purdy completed 67.6%, averaged 8.4, had 2 TDs, 310 yards and a rating of 111.3. Total QBR, however, was 58.3. First game VS Pittsburgh he completed 65.5%, averaged 7.6, had 2 TDs, and a rating the exact same of 111.3, but a total QBR of 94.3. How does that make sense?
I could be wrong, but I think opponents factor in this stat
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
I REALLY need someone to help explain the total QBR to me. Last night, Purdy completed 67.6%, averaged 8.4, had 2 TDs, 310 yards and a rating of 111.3. Total QBR, however, was 58.3. First game VS Pittsburgh he completed 65.5%, averaged 7.6, had 2 TDs, and a rating the exact same of 111.3, but a total QBR of 94.3. How does that make sense?
I could be wrong, but I think opponents factor in this stat

That would make sense, but I don't think so. I know certain difficulties, how much he contributed to the TEAM win are some, but it's weird. I've heard it is a better measure of how a QB actually performed.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
I REALLY need someone to help explain the total QBR to me. Last night, Purdy completed 67.6%, averaged 8.4, had 2 TDs, 310 yards and a rating of 111.3. Total QBR, however, was 58.3. First game VS Pittsburgh he completed 65.5%, averaged 7.6, had 2 TDs, and a rating the exact same of 111.3, but a total QBR of 94.3. How does that make sense?
I could be wrong, but I think opponents factor in this stat

But a Dak Prescott against the same team completed 13 of 24 for 143 yards, 6.0 YPA with 0 TD's but had finished with a higher rating than Brock with a 70.5 total QBR.
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Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
I REALLY need someone to help explain the total QBR to me. Last night, Purdy completed 67.6%, averaged 8.4, had 2 TDs, 310 yards and a rating of 111.3. Total QBR, however, was 58.3. First game VS Pittsburgh he completed 65.5%, averaged 7.6, had 2 TDs, and a rating the exact same of 111.3, but a total QBR of 94.3. How does that make sense?
I could be wrong, but I think opponents factor in this stat

But a Dak Prescott against the same team completed 13 of 24 for 143 yards, 6.0 YPA with 0 TD's but had finished with a higher rating than Brock with a 70.5 total QBR.

I think it factors in game situation. So a 15 yard pass in a tie game 4Q weighs more than garbage time 15 yard completion.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
I REALLY need someone to help explain the total QBR to me. Last night, Purdy completed 67.6%, averaged 8.4, had 2 TDs, 310 yards and a rating of 111.3. Total QBR, however, was 58.3. First game VS Pittsburgh he completed 65.5%, averaged 7.6, had 2 TDs, and a rating the exact same of 111.3, but a total QBR of 94.3. How does that make sense?
I could be wrong, but I think opponents factor in this stat

But a Dak Prescott against the same team completed 13 of 24 for 143 yards, 6.0 YPA with 0 TD's but had finished with a higher rating than Brock with a 70.5 total QBR.

The fact Purdy was blitzed on 84% of his drop backs, A RECORD in the next gen stats era, and still did good over the course of the game is astonishing. He threw a few passes in harms way but also threw so many dimes.
6/7 in the 10-20 yard range. He is 90% over the first 3 games in the intermediate range. Just sick!!!
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
I REALLY need someone to help explain the total QBR to me. Last night, Purdy completed 67.6%, averaged 8.4, had 2 TDs, 310 yards and a rating of 111.3. Total QBR, however, was 58.3. First game VS Pittsburgh he completed 65.5%, averaged 7.6, had 2 TDs, and a rating the exact same of 111.3, but a total QBR of 94.3. How does that make sense?
I could be wrong, but I think opponents factor in this stat

But a Dak Prescott against the same team completed 13 of 24 for 143 yards, 6.0 YPA with 0 TD's but had finished with a higher rating than Brock with a 70.5 total QBR.

I think it factors in game situation. So a 15 yard pass in a tie game 4Q weighs more than garbage time 15 yard completion.

When was DAL & NYG tied in that game? And what tough situations did Dak face in that game?
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
I REALLY need someone to help explain the total QBR to me. Last night, Purdy completed 67.6%, averaged 8.4, had 2 TDs, 310 yards and a rating of 111.3. Total QBR, however, was 58.3. First game VS Pittsburgh he completed 65.5%, averaged 7.6, had 2 TDs, and a rating the exact same of 111.3, but a total QBR of 94.3. How does that make sense?
I could be wrong, but I think opponents factor in this stat

But a Dak Prescott against the same team completed 13 of 24 for 143 yards, 6.0 YPA with 0 TD's but had finished with a higher rating than Brock with a 70.5 total QBR.

I think it factors in game situation. So a 15 yard pass in a tie game 4Q weighs more than garbage time 15 yard completion.

When was DAL & NYG tied in that game? And what tough situations did Dak face in that game?
At kickoff
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
I REALLY need someone to help explain the total QBR to me. Last night, Purdy completed 67.6%, averaged 8.4, had 2 TDs, 310 yards and a rating of 111.3. Total QBR, however, was 58.3. First game VS Pittsburgh he completed 65.5%, averaged 7.6, had 2 TDs, and a rating the exact same of 111.3, but a total QBR of 94.3. How does that make sense?



Not sure if anyone's posted this yet, and it's 30 min long so you might not have the time… but you could at least listen to the conclusion and start to get an idea of why this might be a lower graded game even though he was successful in the context of regular statistics and the team won.

That said, QBR is going to have flaws just like any other stat.
Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
For those that missed it, Fitzy got Brock in touch with the best QB to ever lose to Montana in a Super Bowl.


He did throw three, but also three picks and they lost 38-31. But when you lose after scoring 31, interceptions or no, that's mostly on the defense.
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