QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by billbird2111:
I think it's somewhat amusing when Kyle talks about Brock during his many media sessions. Even with the sound turned down, you can always tell when Kyle talks about Brock Purdy. Have you noticed? He smiles. It's a coy smile. He does his best not to do it, but he can't help himself. He smiles all the time when he's talking about Purdy.

I don't think I've ever witnessed a smile like that for any other player he discusses.

Nah, he's probably thinking about his pay raise of a couple of million due to the contract extension he just signed. 

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
I REALLY need someone to help explain the total QBR to me. Last night, Purdy completed 67.6%, averaged 8.4, had 2 TDs, 310 yards and a rating of 111.3. Total QBR, however, was 58.3. First game VS Pittsburgh he completed 65.5%, averaged 7.6, had 2 TDs, and a rating the exact same of 111.3, but a total QBR of 94.3. How does that make sense?

I could be wrong, but I think opponents factor in this stat

But a Dak Prescott against the same team completed 13 of 24 for 143 yards, 6.0 YPA with 0 TD's but had finished with a higher rating than Brock with a 70.5 total QBR.

I think it factors in game situation. So a 15 yard pass in a tie game 4Q weighs more than garbage time 15 yard completion.

When was DAL & NYG tied in that game? And what tough situations did Dak face in that game?

I don't know. I don't know. I don't watch DAL games.
edit: just realized it was a blowout. I don't know why QBR and QB rating is different.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by billbird2111:
I think it's somewhat amusing when Kyle talks about Brock during his many media sessions. Even with the sound turned down, you can always tell when Kyle talks about Brock Purdy. Have you noticed? He smiles. It's a coy smile. He does his best not to do it, but he can't help himself. He smiles all the time when he's talking about Purdy.

I don't think I've ever witnessed a smile like that for any other player he discusses.

He should be happy. Dude hit the lottery with the player.

That's not to take away from the fact that Kyle and CO selected him and made the right move keeping him and cutting Sudfeld.

Agree about the lotto aspect of Brock getting drafted. Anytime you can get a (potentially) generational talent like Purdy, that's pretty much a lotto pick. I'll give a ton of Credit to Kyle, though, for basically cutting Sudfeld and keeping Brock.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Giedi:
The OLine is getting better, I mean you don't rack up 400+ yards if your offensive line sucks. Having said that, Jimmy was pretty good once CMC got here. He was also - in a sense - unbeaten with CMC. What (to me) is the difference between Jimmy and Purdy is accuracy, mobility, mechanics, football intelligence and Age, and that's it. I personally think Jimmy and Brock have similar arm strength and other physical attributes.

My biggest worry for Purdy is that his OLine won't keep him healthy. That worry is slowly fading as the OLine has done a good job (so far) in keeping him upright. I think if the OLine can give him 3+ seconds in the pocket, he can slice and dice *any defense* in the NFL. 🏹 up on the OLine, so far.

I feel like Brock does a better job with composure and not responding poorly to situations, I felt like jimmy would get overwhelmed at times (not often, but it happened a handful of times).

im more so concerned that Brock is going to put himself in harms way to make plays and get injured that way. Than I am with him getting sacked from poor o line play. Lol I love and respect his toughness snd willingness to take a hit to make a throw but I wish he would protect himself better - can only take so many of those hits.

Well, not much you can do when Brock extends a broken play to buy time. Next best thing you can do is hope to avoid the broken play in the first place by having great talent on the offensive line. Give Brock 3+ seconds in the pocket and he doesn't need to extend any broken plays. (Source Mr. YACbros)

Originally posted by Waterbear:
I keep saying this but Grant doesn't analyze football like other reporters. His takes align with whatever is the most controversial. That's his shtick because that was his fathers shtick. When everyone zigs he zags. That's how he gains so many followers. He's more entertainment then football analyst. The moment 49ers media starts to blame Purdy, Grant will blame Kyle. The moment media members blame Kyle, he'll blame Purdy.

I think collectively as the webzone we need to stop pretending like these are honest football takes by Grant. He can make good points or bad points, but they're always for the wrong reasons.

He's a troll. And he's good at it.

The thing is, by doing that he gets people talking about him. People are in this thread discussing cohn, not jack hammer or maiocco or barrows or Jesse Naylor or Vish or film analysis by jonnydel or any other beat writer or content creator. Being controversial or having a contrarian opinion always will get people out to complain.

It's something that skip bayless have done so well, when you just create something controversial and get people riled up for/against it

There clearly is audience for it, and it actually shows most people rather discuss things that are very loosely related to actual football and more of a debate points x versus y, who is better, etc. Sadly more people are interested in that shallow level of "analysis" and discourse than the actual roster, film, play design breakdown, etc. Grant actually can watch film and dissect plays like a football film guy can, he just rarely does it and those videos don't pull numbers.

That isn't to say I like Grant. I don't like that dude at all. But he does this content because theres audience for it.

Originally posted by the_dynasty:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
I keep saying this but Grant doesn't analyze football like other reporters. His takes align with whatever is the most controversial. That's his shtick because that was his fathers shtick. When everyone zigs he zags. That's how he gains so many followers. He's more entertainment then football analyst. The moment 49ers media starts to blame Purdy, Grant will blame Kyle. The moment media members blame Kyle, he'll blame Purdy.

I think collectively as the webzone we need to stop pretending like these are honest football takes by Grant. He can make good points or bad points, but they're always for the wrong reasons.

He's a troll. And he's good at it.

The thing is, by doing that he gets people talking about him. People are in this thread discussing cohn, not jack hammer or maiocco or barrows or Jesse Naylor or Vish or film analysis by jonnydel or any other beat writer or content creator. Being controversial or having a contrarian opinion always will get people out to complain.

It's something that skip bayless have done so well, when you just create something controversial and get people riled up for/against it

There clearly is audience for it, and it actually shows most people rather discuss things that are very loosely related to actual football and more of a debate points x versus y, who is better, etc. Sadly more people are interested in that shallow level of "analysis" and discourse than the actual roster, film, play design breakdown, etc. Grant actually can watch film and dissect plays like a football film guy can, he just rarely does it and those videos don't pull numbers.

That isn't to say I like Grant. I don't like that dude at all. But he does this content because theres audience for it.

Yeah like the opposing teams fans and Trey_ning Wheels fans.

110 passer rating and 11-0 when he takes at least 50% of the offensive snaps

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
110 passer rating and 11-0 when he takes at least 50% of the offensive snaps

He's also #1 in the league (rating 150+) when the ball has 11+ air yards…

"can't throw the deep ball…"

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Yeah like the opposing teams fans and Trey_ning Wheels fans.

Sounds like you might be a fan of his show, except instead of his side you take the anti-cohn side. That's exactly what he wants too.

He's knocking on that top 5 QB tier.

Originally posted by okdkid:
He's knocking on that top 5 QB tier.

He probably is that and will be that.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
I REALLY need someone to help explain the total QBR to me. Last night, Purdy completed 67.6%, averaged 8.4, had 2 TDs, 310 yards and a rating of 111.3. Total QBR, however, was 58.3. First game VS Pittsburgh he completed 65.5%, averaged 7.6, had 2 TDs, and a rating the exact same of 111.3, but a total QBR of 94.3. How does that make sense?

Not sure if anyone's posted this yet, and it's 30 min long so you might not have the time… but you could at least listen to the conclusion and start to get an idea of why this might be a lower graded game even though he was successful in the context of regular statistics and the team won.

That said, QBR is going to have flaws just like any other stat.

I like his channel and agree with almost everything. I am not sure I buy that the Deebo TD was a happy accident on an underthrow.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by okdkid:
He's knocking on that top 5 QB tier.

He probably is that and will be that.

Not yet, at least. He's got to have supremely good numbers and not have the impression he's being carried by the team. But if he keeps stacking wins; he'll move up slowly. He's probably fringe top 10 now.

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by okdkid:
He's knocking on that top 5 QB tier.

He probably is that and will be that.

Not yet, at least. He's got to have supremely good numbers and not have the impression he's being carried by the team. But if he keeps stacking wins; he'll move up slowly. He's probably fringe top 10 now.

"Impression" is just a personal vibe. The tape, results, box score and advanced metrics say he's nearing the elite tier. The national vibe will always languish behind. Can't want for laggards to catch up. He's there right now. People just need to come to terms that we are witnessing history.

Originally posted by okdkid:
"Impression" is just a personal vibe. The tape, results, box score and advanced metrics say he's nearing the elite tier. The national vibe will always languish behind. Can't want for laggards to catch up. He's there right now. People just need to come to terms that we are witnessing history.

I don't disagree, but top 5 is usually media narrative anyway.