QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Here's one for the "weakest arm in the NFL" crowd

After all the misfires on the first drive, Purdy hit a nice throw to Kittle ona corner route by scooting to his left to buy another half second before layering this throw to Kittle. Against a 6-man rush. Slow-mo so you can see it. #49ers #FTTB pic.twitter.com/mldlzvZasR

— Rich (@richjmadrid) September 22, 2023

I for one am Fn estatic to see him navigate the pocket and step up into his throws this year. Something he was reluctant to do on a consistent basis last year. Three games into this season and we haven't even seen the backyard Brock we all fell in love with. He is showing real growth and maturity so far in his young career.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Here's one for the "weakest arm in the NFL" crowd

After all the misfires on the first drive, Purdy hit a nice throw to Kittle ona corner route by scooting to his left to buy another half second before layering this throw to Kittle. Against a 6-man rush. Slow-mo so you can see it. #49ers #FTTB pic.twitter.com/mldlzvZasR

— Rich (@richjmadrid) September 22, 2023

I for one am Fn estatic to see him navigate the pocket and step up into his throws this year. Something he was reluctant to do on a consistent basis last year. Three games into this season and we haven't even seen the backyard Brock we all fell in love with. He is showing real growth and maturity so far in his young career.

100%. This is crucial to staying on time with his receivers routes instead of both having to play off schedule. Kyle must be ecstatic too.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree about the lotto aspect of Brock getting drafted. Anytime you can get a (potentially) generational talent like Purdy, that's pretty much a lotto pick. I'll give a ton of Credit to Kyle, though, for basically cutting Sudfeld and keeping Brock.

Can we please pump the breaks for gods sake? LOL

Generational talent? Yeah, Brock is not a generational talent. As good as I think he is and expect him to be, this is not a realistic label for him.

Generational talent by definition in my mind is a talent you only see once every 10 or 20 years and that's definetely not Brock Purdy.
Patrick Mahomes is a generational talent.
That doesn't change the fact that Purdy has been incredible so far in his career and is playing at a really high level for a 23 years old player.
Plus, he doesn't need to be a generational talent. Montana and Brady weren't and they were just fine.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree about the lotto aspect of Brock getting drafted. Anytime you can get a (potentially) generational talent like Purdy, that's pretty much a lotto pick. I'll give a ton of Credit to Kyle, though, for basically cutting Sudfeld and keeping Brock.

Can we please pump the breaks for gods sake? LOL

Generational talent? Yeah, Brock is not a generational talent. As good as I think he is and expect him to be, this is not a realistic label for him.

Nah. All gas, no brakes. When you finally see what he sees, you've missed out on a lot of joy.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
For those that missed it, Fitzy got Brock in touch with the best QB to ever lose to Montana in a Super Bowl.

Brock Purdy wears #13 for Dan Marino. And our Ryan Fitzpatrick gave him the chance to meet him. pic.twitter.com/ViQk1s6pHy

— NFL on Prime Video (@NFLonPrime) September 22, 2023

He did throw three, but also three picks and they lost 38-31. But when you lose after scoring 31, interceptions or no, that's mostly on the defense.

If you're talking about XIX the final score was 38-16.

I'm talking about the Jets vs the Dolphins in 1999. Watch the interview to see the context.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
I REALLY need someone to help explain the total QBR to me. Last night, Purdy completed 67.6%, averaged 8.4, had 2 TDs, 310 yards and a rating of 111.3. Total QBR, however, was 58.3. First game VS Pittsburgh he completed 65.5%, averaged 7.6, had 2 TDs, and a rating the exact same of 111.3, but a total QBR of 94.3. How does that make sense?

I could be wrong, but I think opponents factor in this stat

But a Dak Prescott against the same team completed 13 of 24 for 143 yards, 6.0 YPA with 0 TD's but had finished with a higher rating than Brock with a 70.5 total QBR.

Nonsense. The whole point of QBR is to look BEYOND mere numbers and look at CONTEXT. Brock made some great plays, he also made some bad ones which didn't hurt us because guys like Kittle broke up interceptions. Stop being so much of a homer that your trust in an advanced stat depends EXCLUSIVELY on how much it praises the players you like. That same stat had Brock at number 1 in the NFL in week 1, and cumulatively he held that rank after week 2 as well.

So does Brock's almost turnovers weigh heavier than Dak's 0 TD's?

It's not that simple. There is the question of accuracy versus a completion, how they weight the moment, and if I'm not mistaken, they also weight competition. Among many other factors.

Bottom line, again: If you're so much of a homer that you only love a stat when it praises your guys, and hate it otherwise, you have the same credibility as my left nut.

Originally posted by pdc20:
Generational talent by definition in my mind is a talent you only see once every 10 or 20 years and that's definetely not Brock Purdy.
Patrick Mahomes is a generational talent.
That doesn't change the fact that Purdy has been incredible so far in his career and is playing at a really high level for a 23 years old player.
Plus, he doesn't need to be a generational talent. Montana and Brady weren't and they were just fine.

they are just as talented QB as mahomes from a physicality standpoint I wouldn't even call him generational with Josh Allen Antony Richardson etc

Originally posted by 9er_84:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree about the lotto aspect of Brock getting drafted. Anytime you can get a (potentially) generational talent like Purdy, that's pretty much a lotto pick. I'll give a ton of Credit to Kyle, though, for basically cutting Sudfeld and keeping Brock.

Can we please pump the breaks for gods sake? LOL

Generational talent? Yeah, Brock is not a generational talent. As good as I think he is and expect him to be, this is not a realistic label for him.

His processing ability is a generational talent.

everyone knocks his physical traits but no one argues what he has between the ears and most qb's don't have that…

so yea generational talent… I would agree.

Nice to see folks who can see what I see. I've watched Steve, Joe, and Jeff and I can see a generational talent - simply because I've seen them before. Joe and Steve were generational talents. Jeff was a good QB, but *not* a generational talent. By definition, if you make the Hall of Fame, you are a generational talent, in my opinion.

To me Brock has unreal accuracy, and a very good arm. A cut above Joe's arm, actually, believe it or not. Closer to Steve's arm in my opinion. His processing is definitely generational - approaching our two legendary QB's. What I think will convince the rest of the crowd is a super bowl win or two. Otherwise, for the rest - he'll just be a very good QB -- but not generational.

Originally posted by DrEll:
I think the real test will be vs the Cowboys D. I for one am already a believer and think he's the best QB on this roster since Jeff Garcia.

But if can hold his own against Dallas, I think the tune of the entire NFL will change on him.

I agree, anytime Brock faces great competition and wins, that's another point in the Generational Talent category.

Dallas will be a very good indicator of where he's at, just like last year - when he beat Dallas in the playoffs, I suddenly realized he's as good or Better than Jimmy.

Originally posted by father49er:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by okdkid:
He's knocking on that top 5 QB tier.

Huh? He's already there. #5 NFL fating, #3 QBR.

He's playing at Mahommes level. If he stays consistent, he's generational talent. He's the missing piece of any offense.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by father49er:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by okdkid:
He's knocking on that top 5 QB tier.

Huh? He's already there. #5 NFL fating, #3 QBR.

He's playing at Mahommes level. If he stays consistent, he's generational talent. He's the missing piece of any offense.

He's playing better than PM ATM. PM is running around for his life and playing hero ball averaging 18 points per game and KC is tied with the Raiders in their division.

Wow, I had to check. His offense scored 20 points vs Detroit, and 17 points vs the jaguars. He's also thrown two interceptions.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
I REALLY need someone to help explain the total QBR to me. Last night, Purdy completed 67.6%, averaged 8.4, had 2 TDs, 310 yards and a rating of 111.3. Total QBR, however, was 58.3. First game VS Pittsburgh he completed 65.5%, averaged 7.6, had 2 TDs, and a rating the exact same of 111.3, but a total QBR of 94.3. How does that make sense?

I could be wrong, but I think opponents factor in this stat

But a Dak Prescott against the same team completed 13 of 24 for 143 yards, 6.0 YPA with 0 TD's but had finished with a higher rating than Brock with a 70.5 total QBR.

Nonsense. The whole point of QBR is to look BEYOND mere numbers and look at CONTEXT. Brock made some great plays, he also made some bad ones which didn't hurt us because guys like Kittle broke up interceptions. Stop being so much of a homer that your trust in an advanced stat depends EXCLUSIVELY on how much it praises the players you like. That same stat had Brock at number 1 in the NFL in week 1, and cumulatively he held that rank after week 2 as well.

So does Brock's almost turnovers weigh heavier than Dak's 0 TD's?

It's not that simple. There is the question of accuracy versus a completion, how they weight the moment, and if I'm not mistaken, they also weight competition. Among many other factors.

Bottom line, again: If you're so much of a homer that you only love a stat when it praises your guys, and hate it otherwise, you have the same credibility as my left nut.

So how much did the Deebo TD pass that was dead on the money weigh into the equation? That was clutch and essentially put the game away. The other TD pass to Bell was clutch also. Just trying to wrap my head around how a QB with zero clutch passes and was simply along for the ride scored higher against the same defense?

There's so much bashing on Brock on social media it makes me sick, man.

Everyone's saying he's not good at all or solid at best because of his supporting cast.

Calling BS here 1000%.

They talk about his cast as if they forget Kurt Warner had a hall of fame RB + two hall of fame caliber WR + top 5-10 defense. He had that offensive cast in Arizona too when he went to the Super Bowl with them.

People bash Purdy for having talent around him as if it doesn't matter that he still has to make good throws to get them the ball in time, accurately and make good decisions under pressure..

Originally posted by WestCoastForever:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree about the lotto aspect of Brock getting drafted. Anytime you can get a (potentially) generational talent like Purdy, that's pretty much a lotto pick. I'll give a ton of Credit to Kyle, though, for basically cutting Sudfeld and keeping Brock.

Can we please pump the breaks for gods sake? LOL

Generational talent? Yeah, Brock is not a generational talent. As good as I think he is and expect him to be, this is not a realistic label for him.

Nah. All gas, no brakes. When you finally see what he sees, you've missed out on a lot of joy.

What do you mean by "talent"? The biggest talent is between the ears. Gotta respect that.

It's too early to talk about the guy is a HOFer, generational etc etc. We'll get a better idea by the end of next season.

But you gotta love what he's doing so far.

My view is that if he doesn't get killed by the right side of the line, he's gonna keep improving his pre snap recognition and continue to get experience making the right choices under extreme high pressure situations.

This dude's a keeper.

Originally posted by father49er:
He's playing at Mahommes level. If he stays consistent, he's generational talent. He's the missing piece of any offense.

I hope you mean this year and not in general, lol.