QB Brock Purdy Thread

Mike Florio, you know that's just not the kind of name you think of when you think about quality journalism. It just sounds too much like Oreo. The name Florio makes me think of a douchebag who should be cleaning gutters for a living, not someone who actually gets paid to talk.

Peter King: I agree.

Originally posted by KowboyKiller:
Mike Florio, you know that's just not the kind of name you think of when you think about quality journalism. It just sounds too much like Oreo. The name Florio makes me think of a douchebag who should be cleaning gutters for a living, not someone who actually gets paid to talk.

Peter King: I agree.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Yup. There were some great 1st or coming out games. Kap vs the Bears and Purdy vs the Fins or even the Bucs are equal to me. I forget Jimmy's first start,maybe Chicago also? He threw for a lot of yards, but I don't remember a lot of points (in Jimmy's defense, he had the worst team of the 3).

In 2017 jimmy was throwing to scrubs but still sparking the team to wins. Trent Taylor, Garrett celek, Goodwin, Louis Murphy, Aldrich Robinson

Yup. Jimmy's was impressive in that he made a team that should've been drafting 1st overall look competitive and went undefeated with them.

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Can we give the kid an entire season and post season before comparing him to Brady, or Joe or anyone else?

I enjoyed kap's rise, jimmy's rise, and imma do the same with Brock. If it all collapses then so be it. Gotta enjoy the now.

Nobody is saying don't enjoy it, I'm enjoying the hell out of this. Comparing him to HOFers is premature IMO, but if you wanna be let down, again, that is what folks set themselves up for when making those comparisons. Joe wasn't considered truly great until his 2nd Super Bowl vs Cincinnati. He threw THREE picks in the game that made him famous with Clark for The Catch. Brady wasn't considered great until his 3rd or 4th because Bellichick's D did all the heavy lifting. Yet here we are in 2023, people already crowning Mahomes the best to ever play, Burrows, Herbert and Allen future HOFers despite winning nothing.

He was a legend by Super Bowl 23. That game solidified it. I'd argue he was already great by 81 or we can go to the 84 season if you want to push it.

The great comeback verses the Saints in 1980, smashing Dallas in the regular season in 81, his playoff run in 1981 (yes he threw 3 picks in that game but go back and watch- he played great), opening with four of five three hundred yard games in 1982, good season in 83 and leading to another NFCCG with an almost great comeback in that game, and his 84 was magnificent, just overshadowed by Marino. Everyone knew Montana was great by 84.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by WestCoastForever:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree about the lotto aspect of Brock getting drafted. Anytime you can get a (potentially) generational talent like Purdy, that's pretty much a lotto pick. I'll give a ton of Credit to Kyle, though, for basically cutting Sudfeld and keeping Brock.

Can we please pump the breaks for gods sake? LOL

Generational talent? Yeah, Brock is not a generational talent. As good as I think he is and expect him to be, this is not a realistic label for him.

Nah. All gas, no brakes. When you finally see what he sees, you've missed out on a lot of joy.

I don't think you and Giedi understand what generational talent means lol.

Or maybe you're not nuanced enough to recognize it in its infancy. It's just an opinion. Lol yourself.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Can we give the kid an entire season and post season before comparing him to Brady, or Joe or anyone else?

I enjoyed kap's rise, jimmy's rise, and imma do the same with Brock. If it all collapses then so be it. Gotta enjoy the now.

Absolutely Agree 💯%, B🐔B all the way!

Got to enjoy the honeymoon stage while it lasts.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Can we give the kid an entire season and post season before comparing him to Brady, or Joe or anyone else?

I enjoyed kap's rise, jimmy's rise, and imma do the same with Brock. If it all collapses then so be it. Gotta enjoy the now.

Absolutely Agree 💯%, B🐔B all the way!

Got to enjoy the honeymoon stage while it lasts.

This totally.

Originally posted by Bloodless:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Haven't seen it brought up but the throw purdy made to start the 4th quarter to cmc was a DIME

he stepped up in the pocket and threw it to where only cmc could make a play on it but he dropped it.

An Absolute dime. Purdy's footwork and awareness in the pocket is so advanced. He has so many QB qualities that are just special.

AGree 💯%, and he's been throwing those dimes since he became a starter!

Love his quick feet, reminds me of Montana.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Heroism:
EDIT I don't want to jinx him.

Purdy gonna get paid. /

Well in nearly an absolute worst case scenario (assuming he's starting), he will get $25-$30M a year. That's bottom tier for actually solid starting QBs. If he keeps up what he's doing - he will most likely fall in the $45-$55M - year salary. Which is still a relative bargain based on where the salaries for QBs are heading.

I don't think Brock's future salary closes any Superbowl windows. I think lack of talent is more of a factor. Yes once a QB is paid there is less money for everyone else, but the Patriots still won Superbowls despite Tom being paid. Russel, Brees and Rodgers winning only one Superbowl is more because they lost a lot of great coaching and had some average drafts after the Superbowl win than because of a lack of cap space. Ben won two Superbowl's despite being paid as another example that a QB being paid doesn't necessarily close the Superbowl window.

I think the way our contracts are set up, the cap increases, and our talent evaluation/drafting gives us a lot of optimism. I'm not concerned about it.

i believe we will figure it out.

no qb wins a Super Bowl without talent around them, or it happens very seldom. It's not Brock's fault that he is surrounded by talent, great coaching, and scheme. It really is any young QBs dream. He's done a great job making the most of it - you can see him still learning and growing too. It's a great platform for any qb and he's doing his part as the qb. He will get better as time goes on, we just have to hope he's good enough now to capitalize on this roster this year - which I think he is.

Agree, the only limitation on Brock is the OLine. That right side pass protection has to hold up against elite pass rushers in the playoffs. Give Purdy 3+ seconds in the pocket and he'll really kill defenses. Where I can see Purdy grow more as a passer is those choice routes. I remember during Green Bay's super bowl run, Aaron would throw those choice routes and it's virtually impossible to stop because they had counters to all the coverages that was used against their receiver sets. However, those option/choice routes take months, if not years of playing together to develop.

[Poster'sremorse.]

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Can we give the kid an entire season and post season before comparing him to Brady, or Joe or anyone else?

I enjoyed kap's rise, jimmy's rise, and imma do the same with Brock. If it all collapses then so be it. Gotta enjoy the now.

Exactly.

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Can we give the kid an entire season and post season before comparing him to Brady, or Joe or anyone else?

I enjoyed kap's rise, jimmy's rise, and imma do the same with Brock. If it all collapses then so be it. Gotta enjoy the now.

Nobody is saying don't enjoy it, I'm enjoying the hell out of this. Comparing him to HOFers is premature IMO, but if you wanna be let down, again, that is what folks set themselves up for when making those comparisons. Joe wasn't considered truly great until his 2nd Super Bowl vs Cincinnati. He threw THREE picks in the game that made him famous with Clark for The Catch. Brady wasn't considered great until his 3rd or 4th because Bellichick's D did all the heavy lifting. Yet here we are in 2023, people already crowning Mahomes the best to ever play, Burrows, Herbert and Allen future HOFers despite winning nothing.

Yeah, but the counter point is that you have to talk about it. Arguably no QB in history has had a better start. We're about 11 games worth of tape on Brock and he hasn't put a bad game on tape. To the contrary, all he's done is play like a top 5 guy. I'm just waiting for some sort of struggle to happen so we can have a baseline of his floor. His ceiling right now is through the roof and it's so far it's enough tape, in my mind, to say that he's special.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Yup. There were some great 1st or coming out games. Kap vs the Bears and Purdy vs the Fins or even the Bucs are equal to me. I forget Jimmy's first start,maybe Chicago also? He threw for a lot of yards, but I don't remember a lot of points (in Jimmy's defense, he had the worst team of the 3).

In 2017 jimmy was throwing to scrubs but still sparking the team to wins. Trent Taylor, Garrett celek, Goodwin, Louis Murphy, Aldrich Robinson

Yup. Jimmy's was impressive in that he made a team that should've been drafting 1st overall look competitive and went undefeated with them.

For me, Jimmy's durability was a big disappointment. I didn't know the guy was basically made of glass, and not tungsten. We'll see about Purdy's durability, but it will really help his durability if that Right tackle (in this case McKivitz) develops into an elite right tackle. I've always thought that if Jimmy had average to good durability, he'd have learned Kyle's offense much faster than Matt Ryan. As a consequence of his injuries, Jimmy didn't start to really be productive in Kyle's offense till last year. Then - crap - he gets injured *again* but this time Purdy is there to save the season.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Can we give the kid an entire season and post season before comparing him to Brady, or Joe or anyone else?

I enjoyed kap's rise, jimmy's rise, and imma do the same with Brock. If it all collapses then so be it. Gotta enjoy the now.

Nobody is saying don't enjoy it, I'm enjoying the hell out of this. Comparing him to HOFers is premature IMO, but if you wanna be let down, again, that is what folks set themselves up for when making those comparisons. Joe wasn't considered truly great until his 2nd Super Bowl vs Cincinnati. He threw THREE picks in the game that made him famous with Clark for The Catch. Brady wasn't considered great until his 3rd or 4th because Bellichick's D did all the heavy lifting. Yet here we are in 2023, people already crowning Mahomes the best to ever play, Burrows, Herbert and Allen future HOFers despite winning nothing.

He was a legend by Super Bowl 23. That game solidified it. I'd argue he was already great by 81 or we can go to the 84 season if you want to push it.

The great comeback verses the Saints in 1980, smashing Dallas in the regular season in 81, his playoff run in 1981 (yes he threw 3 picks in that game but go back and watch- he played great), opening with four of five three hundred yard games in 1982, good season in 83 and leading to another NFCCG with an almost great comeback in that game, and his 84 was magnificent, just overshadowed by Marino. Everyone knew Montana was great by 84.

Not in the eyes of the national media. If you were reading it then. Policy didn't acquire Steve Young to back up a legend. They saw Joe as a system QB who was injury prone.

Originally posted by Dshearn:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
I heard on the radio today that purdy was benched multiple times at iowa state?

That does not surprise me at all......

Brock is going to go balls to the wall 24/7 and he has some gunslinger in him.

We have been mostly winning 50/50 balls, and Brock throws the ball before the break on the rout regularly. There is a cost to that.

I could easily see Brock trying to will the team down the field and a 50/50 ball not go his way, or throwing a pass with anticipation that the future insurance salesman can break and go it and being wrong...

We got great skill guys, Iowa State did not.
We have a great defense to lean on, Iowa State did not.
We have a great system to reign in some Impulses Brock might have, Iowa State did not.

Having said that....now think of the numerous almost turnovers the 49ers have had with all these things in Brock's favor.

Almost Turnovers don't count in football, but it does make it really believable that Brock could have been benched at Iowa State.

With any luck for us, Brock learned from it and it cost the 49ers nothing.

Farve won a superbowl doing just that 😂