Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
I REALLY need someone to help explain the total QBR to me. Last night, Purdy completed 67.6%, averaged 8.4, had 2 TDs, 310 yards and a rating of 111.3. Total QBR, however, was 58.3. First game VS Pittsburgh he completed 65.5%, averaged 7.6, had 2 TDs, and a rating the exact same of 111.3, but a total QBR of 94.3. How does that make sense?
I could be wrong, but I think opponents factor in this stat
But a Dak Prescott against the same team completed 13 of 24 for 143 yards, 6.0 YPA with 0 TD's but had finished with a higher rating than Brock with a 70.5 total QBR.
Nonsense. The whole point of QBR is to look BEYOND mere numbers and look at CONTEXT. Brock made some great plays, he also made some bad ones which didn't hurt us because guys like Kittle broke up interceptions. Stop being so much of a homer that your trust in an advanced stat depends EXCLUSIVELY on how much it praises the players you like. That same stat had Brock at number 1 in the NFL in week 1, and cumulatively he held that rank after week 2 as well.
So does Brock's almost turnovers weigh heavier than Dak's 0 TD's?
It's not that simple. There is the question of accuracy versus a completion, how they weight the moment, and if I'm not mistaken, they also weight competition. Among many other factors.
Bottom line, again: If you're so much of a homer that you only love a stat when it praises your guys, and hate it otherwise, you have the same credibility as my left nut.
So how much did the Deebo TD pass that was dead on the money weigh into the equation? That was clutch and essentially put the game away. The other TD pass to Bell was clutch also. Just trying to wrap my head around how a QB with zero clutch passes and was simply along for the ride scored higher against the same defense?
Wait, so you believe a touchdown on second down, while in field goal range, when the score was 23 to 12 with six minutes minutes left is super clutch? The game was already a two score game and about to be extended with a field goal. If anything, that touchdown pass ought to matter less because the chances of the 49ers winning were already well above 90% at that point in the game.* As for the touchdown to Bell, the score was 3 to 3 in the middle of the second quarter. A great third down pass, but clutch? Come on. Clutch is when you're losing late in the fourth and convert a third and long.
*As you can see here, the 49ers chances of losing the game during that "clutch" moment were minuscule.
https://live.numberfire.com/nfl/8330
I mean really? Our win probability was already 98.79% and you think that's a clutch moment?
Like I said, homeritus is a dangerous thing. I am not knocking Purdy. He played well. He made some mistakes early, sure, but they didn't cost the team, and after he settled in he played like a Franchise QB. Negate the early portion and he played Super Bowl winning quarterbacking.
Total QBR takes into account situation, but also opponent's strength. The Jets have one of the best defenses in football. The Giants not so much. That's probably a big reason for the difference in and of itself.
As has been said before. Total QBR is not perfect. But it's still better than passer rating, which doesn't differentiate between player contributions to a given play.
[ Edited by 5_Golden_Rings on Sep 24, 2023 at 7:17 AM ]
