QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
One simply thing that you could do that would at least slightly improve passer rating is multiply it by completed air yards per pass attempt (divided by 10, so it's just a small adjustment). That would at least give a coefficient which adds one tiny thing to distinguish between QBs who are doing most of the work and QBs who are getting more help from their WRs.

Should you do that, the top five passer rating QBs go from this:

Jordan Love 118.7
Kirk Cousins 114.2
Jared Goff 109.0
Russell Wilson 108.5
Brock Purdy 106.3

to this:

Jarod Goff 55.6
Kirk Cousins 53.7
Rusesll Wilson 48.8
Brock Purdy 45.7
Jordan Love 39.2

That at least puts Jordan Love where he belongs rather than as the best QB in the NFL (lol). It would also rightly put Tua where he belongs, ahead of all these guys at 58.7. (maybe I'm trashing on Love but I'm not convinced yet. The competition has been ass, and today he's not looking too great so far).

PFF actually grades Jordan Love below Purdy (65.0 vs 68.3). Tua is on top at 90.9.

LMAO, love Kyle Brandt, on GMFB, and then today on NFL Network saying Brock is a robot/A.I. hilarious, love Brandt & GFMB, miss Kay Adams though.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Some NFL scout just punched a hole into the wall.

"But he isn't 6'4, 230 lbs athletic with a cannon arm."

Just looking at Trevor Lawrence, Justin Fields, and Zach Wilson's stats - they are all horrible. These guys match the classic *big armed QB's* that everybody is looking for but the results are terrible for their respective teams. Finding a franchise QB is really more about trial and error than any sophisticated QB scouting procedure, for sure.

Originally posted by Giedi:
Just looking at Trevor Lawrence, Justin Fields, and Zach Wilson's stats - they are all horrible. These guys match the classic *big armed QB's* that everybody is looking for but the results are terrible for their respective teams. Finding a franchise QB is really more about trial and error than any sophisticated QB scouting procedure, for sure.

Trevor Lawrence is very good but I agree with the other 2. Justin Fields may just have bad coaching though.

Originally posted by clara543:
Trevor Lawrence is very good but I agree with the other 2. Justin Fields may just have bad coaching though.

If the coaching is telling him to stare down wide open receivers and not throw the ball then sure.

Shanny has said, you really don't know what you have until you get them in the build with the organization, regarding the draft picks. These days, the top prospects are coached to say and act the right way before the draft. Teams can better their odds with research and all but there's a lot of things that can go wrong.

Originally posted by Giedi:
Just looking at Trevor Lawrence, Justin Fields, and Zach Wilson's stats - they are all horrible. These guys match the classic *big armed QB's* that everybody is looking for but the results are terrible for their respective teams. Finding a franchise QB is really more about trial and error than any sophisticated QB scouting procedure, for sure.

Steve Smith summed it up best:

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Just looking at Trevor Lawrence, Justin Fields, and Zach Wilson's stats - they are all horrible. These guys match the classic *big armed QB's* that everybody is looking for but the results are terrible for their respective teams. Finding a franchise QB is really more about trial and error than any sophisticated QB scouting procedure, for sure.

Steve Smith summed it up best:

Steve Smith on Brock Purdy 💯 pic.twitter.com/TDDTbwqc5a

— FootBasket™.com (@FootBasket) January 27, 2023

Lol still got that massive chip on his shoulder

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Just looking at Trevor Lawrence, Justin Fields, and Zach Wilson's stats - they are all horrible. These guys match the classic *big armed QB's* that everybody is looking for but the results are terrible for their respective teams. Finding a franchise QB is really more about trial and error than any sophisticated QB scouting procedure, for sure.

Steve Smith summed it up best:

Steve Smith on Brock Purdy 💯 pic.twitter.com/TDDTbwqc5a

— FootBasket™.com (@FootBasket) January 27, 2023

And the scouts got it wrong on Steve Smith too. How the hell did he last till the 3rd round!!

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Shanny has said, you really don't know what you have until you get them in the build with the organization, regarding the draft picks. These days, the top prospects are coached to say and act the right way before the draft. Teams can better their odds with research and all but there's a lot of things that can go wrong.

Kyle has a relatively good hit rate with regards to QB's - relatively speaking to other coaches. He hit on Jimmy. Keep in mind, *nobody* knew what or who Jimmy was really, until he played in Kyles offense and went 5-0 in 2017. Prior to that, he was an unknown quantity, not unlike Purdy before the Miami game. Reid had his Jimmy in McNabb until - 17 years later - he hits on Patrick. So, as the saying goes, luck is sometimes spelled W.O.R.K. Kyle is supposed to be an offensive genius. Well, that is supported by the fact that he was able to luck into finding a Purdy in the 7th round. At least it didn't take Kyle 17 years to find Brock.

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Just looking at Trevor Lawrence, Justin Fields, and Zach Wilson's stats - they are all horrible. These guys match the classic *big armed QB's* that everybody is looking for but the results are terrible for their respective teams. Finding a franchise QB is really more about trial and error than any sophisticated QB scouting procedure, for sure.

Steve Smith summed it up best:

Steve Smith on Brock Purdy 💯 pic.twitter.com/TDDTbwqc5a

— FootBasket™.com (@FootBasket) January 27, 2023

Lol still got that massive chip on his shoulder

I was dying when he said "he can't hit the WALL, of a barn"

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Shanny has said, you really don't know what you have until you get them in the build with the organization, regarding the draft picks. These days, the top prospects are coached to say and act the right way before the draft. Teams can better their odds with research and all but there's a lot of things that can go wrong.

Kyle has a relatively good hit rate with regards to QB's - relatively speaking to other coaches. He hit on Jimmy. Keep in mind, *nobody* knew what or who Jimmy was really, until he played in Kyles offense and went 5-0 in 2017. Prior to that, he was an unknown quantity, not unlike Purdy before the Miami game. Reid had his Jimmy in McNabb until - 17 years later - he hits on Patrick. So, as the saying goes, luck is sometimes spelled W.O.R.K. Kyle is supposed to be an offensive genius. Well, that is supported by the fact that he was able to luck into finding a Purdy in the 7th round. At least it didn't take Kyle 17 years to find Brock.

I wonder if there's an active purpose to supplement the top end qb with a later round prospect. Shanny and dad did the same with RG3 and then Cousins in the later round. They got Trey and then a year later got Brock in the 7th. They had an idea of Cousins and Brock, but no way he would know Brock would be this good before drafting him.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Just looking at Trevor Lawrence, Justin Fields, and Zach Wilson's stats - they are all horrible. These guys match the classic *big armed QB's* that everybody is looking for but the results are terrible for their respective teams. Finding a franchise QB is really more about trial and error than any sophisticated QB scouting procedure, for sure.

Steve Smith summed it up best:

Steve Smith on Brock Purdy 💯 pic.twitter.com/TDDTbwqc5a

— FootBasket™.com (@FootBasket) January 27, 2023

And the scouts got it wrong on Steve Smith too. How the hell did he last till the 3rd round!!

Agree with Steve Smith. Scouts are (as all human beings are) naturally lazy. Nice thing about the 49ers organization is they have a culture of excellence, I think that goes all the way down to Joan in Accounting. I think the 49er scouts actually *like* being scouts and looking for promising talent. Slowik comes from a football family, like Kyle. His dad is a coach, and his brothers are all involved in football in some fashion. Griese also comes from a football family. Brian's dad did OK in the NFL as a player.

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Shanny has said, you really don't know what you have until you get them in the build with the organization, regarding the draft picks. These days, the top prospects are coached to say and act the right way before the draft. Teams can better their odds with research and all but there's a lot of things that can go wrong.

Kyle has a relatively good hit rate with regards to QB's - relatively speaking to other coaches. He hit on Jimmy. Keep in mind, *nobody* knew what or who Jimmy was really, until he played in Kyles offense and went 5-0 in 2017. Prior to that, he was an unknown quantity, not unlike Purdy before the Miami game. Reid had his Jimmy in McNabb until - 17 years later - he hits on Patrick. So, as the saying goes, luck is sometimes spelled W.O.R.K. Kyle is supposed to be an offensive genius. Well, that is supported by the fact that he was able to luck into finding a Purdy in the 7th round. At least it didn't take Kyle 17 years to find Brock.

I wonder if there's an active purpose to supplement the top end qb with a later round prospect. Shanny and dad did the same with RG3 and then Cousins in the later round. They got Trey and then a year later got Brock in the 7th. They had an idea of Cousins and Brock, but no way he would know Brock would be this good before drafting him.

Agree 💯%, they didn't know who they got. If they *knew* what they had, they'd have picked him in the fourth round - or earlier. I believe that's the grade Brock got in the 49er pre-draft evaluations. Knowing what they know now, they would have picked him MUCH earlier, for sure. It pays to be lucky. Kyle was lucky in finding Brock, for sure.

Originally posted by TopDogBerkeley:
Brock Purdy is 4-0 against 1st round QBs. Next 1up is Deshaun Watson on 10/15.

• Matt Stafford (1)
• Tua Tagovailoa (5)
• Daniel Jones (6)
• Kenny Pickett (20)

He had a hit list for all the guys picked ahead of em. He has their faces on dart boards.