QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by tankle104:
Stats & film go hand in hand, IMO. If I had to have only one - I'd take film but if you understand the context of both, you can make a very informed decision/perception.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Stats & film go hand in hand, IMO. If I had to have only one - I'd take film but if you understand the context of both, you can make a very informed decision/perception.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
If you have watched enough football, and are smart enough to know how football works, you should be able to spot a good qb without a bunch of mathematicians who never played a single down, at any level, telling you if they are good. Watching a guy play will tell you far more than ink on paper ever could.

Yes and no. Yes film does show a lot, but the numbers reveal (potentially) hidden attributes that you don't see on film. Like, for example, a strong run game will tend to depress a QBs numbers. Remember Green Bay and Mostert breaking league records while Jimmy's numbers sucked? Its misleading to think Jimmy had a bad game when Mostert had such a great game .

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
The thing is Trey Lance was the worst QB on the 49ers roster from 2021-23. I think Shanahan realized the early on.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Stats & film go hand in hand, IMO. If I had to have only one - I'd take film but if you understand the context of both, you can make a very informed decision/perception.

? What? I just said that if I had to choose between one or the other, I'd take film. But ideally they go hand in hand. It's very helpful to have both if you understand the context of what you're reading/watching.

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:

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Originally posted by Crown:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
There's still posters who are defending Trey Lance?! Lol weird

There are still posters that haven't moved on from Trey Lance. Sad

Now do Buckner.

Lot's of dudes hung up on their ex-girlfriends still.

These are the same dudes that thought Jimmy was the greatest thing since Montana but their awfully quiet about him now. Instead they need to randomly keep bringing up Trey that's currently a 3rd string lol. Weird coping mechanism.

Glad we have Purdy, he's definitely better than both those QBs and is on a path to be great.

Not a single Jimmy fan compared him to Montana. Only the miserable fans that put him to an unfair standard who complain about "almost INTs" and where balls are placed on game winning tds

again, nice try.

Your boy is gone. Get over it. Go be a raiders fan if you care so much that people say bad things about Jimmy. I'll buy you some tissues as well.

Says the one who gets upset when someone says something about the cowboys third string QB

im just responding to one of your many fabrications

Lolol making up s**t again -- fail lol. Don't care about Trey, he was a bust here which sucks bc we spent all that for him but he was a bust. Thankfully we got Purdy.

Let me know where u want me to send your tissues to.

You spent years replying " " to anyone that didn't having anything favorable to say about Trey. And you still hang around his thread posting random haircut pics. No need to hide it, this is how I picture you watching Brock Purdy on Sunday's knowing you spent far too much time and energy defending Trey Lance

Of course lmao I am a 49ers fan. You are a Jimmy fan. I wanted to see the guy we spent 3 picks on succeed bc that means 49ers will succeed. And lol at posting a haircut pic that's all you have?? What a child lol

Now we have Purdy who has the ability to be a great QB something we haven't had since Joe and Steve. Your meme is garbage bc your mad that not everyone thinks like u and your other couple of buddies that wanted nothing to do with Lance bc he was replacing sweet lil Jimmy.

Love Purdy. You fail again kid. Go to the raiders forum pls. Although I'm sure you already have an account on there telling everyone how great Jimmy is and everything else is the reason for their bad play 😂

And you don't see how you contradict yourself? so it's ok to root for Trey because the Niners spent several first round picks on him without actually proving he can be a franchise qb but it's not ok to root for the qb who won a lot of games while he was here. I like Jimmy despite his flaws, and so did alot of the players here. sucks we never won a Super Bowl with him but glad they got Purdy

you call people who don't agree with you Jimmy fans who need to root for the Raiders, but I'm the child 😂 I see you've come along way since your "" who doesn't agree with me days.

No I don't see the contradiction. One QB was here for 5 years and we've seen him enough and he obviously wasn't the QB we wanted him to be (sorry that still upsets u).

I didn't come along way either, I've been posting on here since 2006 so sometimes you learn to not debate with the morons and trolls and I preferred a simple emoji lol.

I was a huge Jimmy fan early on, I've said it before and I'll say it again, his ACL injury messed up him big time. Legs are a big part of your throwing and when you can't trust to plant your foot and throw it's going to affect your game unless you have that PM/Allen arm. He

Seen enough of Jimmy, didn't see Trey that much and we drafted him very high so of course we should give him a chance. Obviously it didn't work out, he didn't improve enough and he's a bust. Difference is I can admit to it while you guys still cry about Jimmy and hated Lance from the start bc you were butt hurt that the team was moving on from Jimmy. You're a Jimmy fan, I'm a Niner fan.

Funny how you keep lying to yourself,I said it before I'll say it again, you aren't fooling anybody. Fans had every right to root for Jimmy to win as much as others had the right to root for Trey to live up to his draft status. One doesn't make someone a better 49ers fan than the other. It's the "I'd rather lose with Trey than win with Jimmy crowd" that was the problem. Nobody was upset about Jimmy being replaced, Trey Lance was 20 year old who only played 1 season in a Missouri Valley or whatever college conference it was. Doesn't take a football genius to get why he didn't work out. I don't think I seen a single "Jimmy fan" tried to discredit Purdy since replacing him . Can't say the same about the toxic "Trey fans", and that doesn't necessarily mean anyone on here.

and what exactly is there to cry about Jimmy? He was a huge reason why this franchise was able to turn around from worst team in the nfl to Super Bowl contenders. I'm grateful for that and wish him nothing but the best. Even if he doesn't work out ever again, whatever he served his purpose and is no longer on the team. I'm going to keep rooting for Brock Purdy and laugh at nfl scouts that are angry at his success, while you continue to "attempt" to fight within your own fanbase on forums just like you've been doing for years, keep trying buddy.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Well good luck in watching all 32 teams then. Vs looking at the stats and seeing - in a quick way, which teams are doing well on certain things and which teams aren't.

Obviously that's not going to happen. But that doesn't change the idea that you won't have a great understanding of what is happening unless you watch film.

A person can be selective in teams or players they follow… and at the same time acknowledge they don't know everything about every team and player. Defaulting to box scores and advanced stats really isn't going to change that on any meaningful level.

Like you might see a certain team has won five games in a row and has scored 38 points per game and gained 450 yards on average each game. You can then choose to go back and watch the film on those five games and understand how and why it happened.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Stats & film go hand in hand, IMO. If I had to have only one - I'd take film but if you understand the context of both, you can make a very informed decision/perception.

? What? I just said that if I had to choose between one or the other, I'd take film. But ideally they go hand in hand. It's very helpful to have both if you understand the context of what you're reading/watching.

Originally posted by Giedi:
Again, to me, both are important (Film and Stats) I don't think I'll understand much just by relying only on one or the other. Film is great to see, but it can mislead you as to how efficient an offense or a defense is - if the numbers don't add up, so to speak. Like I said, I'm not going to watch all 15+ hours of football every week to figure out certain stuff when I can just look at the stats.

Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree, that's my premise at least. The more you know the context, the better you can understand the game and what is going on. As for the advanced metrics that require a lot more judgement calls, you have to use more film to see what they are saying or not saying, and make sure you aren't misunderstanding what they are presenting - in terms of numbers. Intended Air yards - is an example of that kind of stats.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Stats & film go hand in hand, IMO. If I had to have only one - I'd take film but if you understand the context of both, you can make a very informed decision/perception.

? What? I just said that if I had to choose between one or the other, I'd take film. But ideally they go hand in hand. It's very helpful to have both if you understand the context of what you're reading/watching.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree, that's my premise at least. The more you know the context, the better you can understand the game and what is going on. As for the advanced metrics that require a lot more judgement calls, you have to use more film to see what they are saying or not saying, and make sure you aren't misunderstanding what they are presenting - in terms of numbers. Intended Air yards - is an example of that kind of stats.

I guess I don't understand why someone would watch film to find the context of a PFF grade. Why not just watch film and give your own grade… unless the idea is to evaluate PFF?

Isn't the idea that PFF is doing something you're unwilling to do in the first place? It's a substitute for people who don't have the time and/or expertise to do the work* themselves.

Originally posted by Montana:
I need some more damn 49er BP action

(Hi mayo) lol