QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
A "turnover worthy play" that wasn't actually a turnover.

It doesnt add any extra analysis imo

say aaron rodgers in his mvp season had a very high turnover worthy play percentage but only had 6 turnovers. What does that tell you? I have no clue.

It tells you nothing. If he didn't actually turn it over it's not a turnover.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
A "turnover worthy play" that wasn't actually a turnover.

It doesnt add any extra analysis imo

say aaron rodgers in his mvp season had a very high turnover worthy play percentage but only had 6 turnovers. What does that tell you? I have no clue.

I like the more objective stats. It's debatable what's worthy of a TO and what isn't. Ultimately someone has to sit down and judge, and one stat collecting agency will give one number, another agency with different methodology would give a different number. Neither may be correct. I can determine what is turnover worthy or not myself. If I want to see how turnover prone a guy is, I can look at his objective number of turnovers. Over time that stuff evens out for all QBs, the luck element

but let's switch gears how many BTTs does he have

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
stop, lets just go week to week

Lol I knew that wouldn't go over with someone

Why stop when it's so fun?

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
It tells you nothing. If he didn't actually turn it over it's not a turnover.

I mean BP did get lucky with some that could have been ints but they just weren't, it's reaching lol. Could have been stats make no sense. Could have fumbled here, td here, sneak here, screen here, int there..I mean..lol

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
It tells you nothing. If he didn't actually turn it over it's not a turnover.

I mean BP did get lucky with some that could have been ints but they just weren't, it's reaching lol. Could have been stats make no sense. Could have fumbled here, td here, sneak here, screen here, int there..I mean..lol

I don't put a ton of merit into TWP stats but I also don't think they're useless. Just cause you didn't turn it over doesn't mean you aren't being reckless and putting the ball in danger. In football, it's only a matter of time until luck will not fall your way in those situations (typically the playoffs).

i just look at it as how risky/reckless is someone being. Every qb has TWP unless you play Alex smith style (ultra conservative). I think it speaks volumes in a positive way about a qb when they can play aggressive and keep TWP low - I think that speaks to a qb having really good decision making and accuracy.

it's not an end all be all stat but you do want to see your qb being explosive while keeping that low, protecting the ball and putting their skill guys in position to succeed.

Originally posted by thl408:
They should track touchdown worthy plays. Like the pass to CMC in the end zone that he dropped.

I would welcome that stat.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Quarterbacks with a higher turnover worthy play percentage than Brock Purdy:

Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson and Jalen Hurts to name a few. https://t.co/KkiE2uCzwr

— Jack Hammer (@JackHammer_NFL) September 29, 2023

what were the 4?

The Kittle pass deflection was one for sure

I'm not sure but I imagine at least three of them, if not all, were in the giants first drive. Lol

He was credited with 2 of them in the PIT game which were his 2 fumbles and 2 in the giants game probably didn't include the 1 Kittle got his hand on.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
He was credited with 2 of them in the PIT game which were his 2 fumbles and 2 in the giants game probably didn't include the 1 Kittle got his hand on.

the one Kittle got his hand on was a INT on a platter, Kittle rescued him, that was the most INT worthy of the year imo

Originally posted by tankle104:
I don't put a ton of merit into TWP stats but I also don't think they're useless. Just cause you didn't turn it over doesn't mean you aren't being reckless and putting the ball in danger. In football, it's only a matter of time until luck will not fall your way in those situations (typically the playoffs).

i just look at it as how risky/reckless is someone being. Every qb has TWP unless you play Alex smith style (ultra conservative). I think it speaks volumes in a positive way about a qb when they can play aggressive and keep TWP low - I think that speaks to a qb having really good decision making and accuracy.

it's not an end all be all stat but you do want to see your qb being explosive while keeping that low, protecting the ball and putting their skill guys in position to succeed.

Good points, BP has high fb iq, not too worried, overall. I mean he will lose games eventually, he will make more mistakes here and there but his accuracy, decisions, just being damn smart with the ball has been impressive. Definitely not reckless but not afraid to make ballsy moves, because his talent allows for those. A lot more exciting to watch than Alex, not to diss Alex, just different playing styles but damn. He learns, adjusts like a mofo and won't be satisfied until he holds the trophy and even then I can see him go, "still some things I can learn and adjust on, gotta keep grinding" lol

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Quarterbacks with a higher turnover worthy play percentage than Brock Purdy:

Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson and Jalen Hurts to name a few. https://t.co/KkiE2uCzwr

— Jack Hammer (@JackHammer_NFL) September 29, 2023

Those pff losers always talk about how brock has all these turnover worthy plays, im so glad people are tracking this stupid "stat", cuz it drives me crazy how they dont add context by comparing it to other players

I'm sure there are a few on the webzone that could rattle off all four

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
He was credited with 2 of them in the PIT game which were his 2 fumbles and 2 in the giants game probably didn't include the 1 Kittle got his hand on.

the one Kittle got his hand on was a INT on a platter, Kittle rescued him, that was the most INT worthy of the year imo

Maybe it was included. I mean its not like they break the TWP down by play.

On a positive note. Brock's passing stats from 10 yards plus this season.

22 of 29 (75.9%) for 401 yards, 4 TD's, 0 INT's, 19.8 ADoT, 12.5 YPA with a passer rating of 131.8.

32% of his passes have been beyond 10 yards. Anyone calling our boy a dink and dunk QB should never discuss football ever again.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Maybe it was included. I mean its not like they break the TWP down by play.

On a positive note. Brock's passing stats from 10 yards plus this season.

22 of 29 (75.9%) for 401 yards, 4 TD's, 0 INT's, 19.8 ADoT, 12.5 YPA with a passer rating of 131.8.

32% of his passes have been beyond 10 yards. Anyone calling our boy a dink and dunk QB should never discuss football ever again.

Agree

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Maybe it was included. I mean its not like they break the TWP down by play.

On a positive note. Brock's passing stats from 10 yards plus this season.

22 of 29 (75.9%) for 401 yards, 4 TD's, 0 INT's, 19.8 ADoT, 12.5 YPA with a passer rating of 131.8.

32% of his passes have been beyond 10 yards. Anyone calling our boy a dink and dunk QB should never discuss football ever again.

that aspect means it's utterly worthless imo
i demand advanced stats transparency

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Maybe it was included. I mean its not like they break the TWP down by play.

On a positive note. Brock's passing stats from 10 yards plus this season.

22 of 29 (75.9%) for 401 yards, 4 TD's, 0 INT's, 19.8 ADoT, 12.5 YPA with a passer rating of 131.8.

32% of his passes have been beyond 10 yards. Anyone calling our boy a dink and dunk QB should never discuss football ever again.

that aspect means it's utterly worthless imo
i demand advanced stats transparency

They don't do that for any other stat.

wrong thread