Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Kyle said 'random stuff', but the Zone know it as Jimmy's WTF plays lol
For sure. Lol any real fan, whether you liked jimmy or not, knows that he had a ton of wtf plays. Plays that you can't even really explain. Lol he's had them in all his raider games too.
I've said it a million times, I like jimmy, but he has limitations. The more I've watched him with the raiders, the more I've realized how great of a job kyle did with him. The way he protected the team, and jimmy, from jimmy. Lol I love Kyle and always have, but now I have even more respect for him after watching jimmy in his first three raiders game.
Just watching Brock, its so clear how much of a better mind he has for the game. He sees the fields and reads the defenses exponentially better. Even when Brock has a bad throw/read - it's explainable. Lol it's usually he was late on the throw or he didn't see a defender. With jimmy it's like "I have absolutely no clue why he attempted or what he was thinking". Lmao
I liked Jimmy, but you can tell he's a bit of a meathead. Brock is much more cerebral and doesn't get panicky like Jimmy.
all this jimmy slander.. lol
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I've defended him a lot, and still do depending on the criticism, but the more I watch him with the raiders - the more I realize it was mainly Kyle and the talent around him. I question how well jimmy can even go through 3-4 reads after watching him recently.
More and more of the Jimmy Club will come to see the obvious. Not saying you're a card carrying member or anything.
The point of jimmy's time here, is that he shouldn't have been treated the way he was treated. As the scapegoat for everything. By the 49er press, by the front office. We could win with Jimmy, and Jimmy can win elsewhere. Is Brock doing things Jimmy didn't? Yes. And many other qb's too. Not a knock on Jimmy. And lets not make it like shanny got nothing to clean up. he did when coaching for Jimmy, and now with brock as well. I could get into it, but that's for another thread.
Just want to end this post with, thank you Jimmy for how helped us get to the next level, and best wishes where ever you go.
Feels great baby. (4TD's that day)
How did the FO scapegoat Jimmy?
expecting better play from all the team's positions and moving on from players that can't stay healthy, or don't perform up to expectations is not scapegoating. The FO was always supportive of Jimmy until it was clearly time to move on. Maybe some fans didn't get the memo,
I don't always agree with decisions made by Kyle and John but I bow to them because they know more about the players and the team than any of us do. They are there 7 days a weeks. Their jobs depend on the decisions they make. Even the Trey Lance fiasco was the right decision at the time. It turned out bd but trying to get a top QB when you have the chance is never a bad idea. For teams like the Niners that chance doesn't come around often. It's unfortunate that the 2 times they had a chance to get a QB early in the draft it wasn't a great year for QBs. When tey drafted Alex Smith he was considered to be better than Rodgers. They were really the only 2 in that class. The class that had Trey in it has faired poorly. Only Lawrence is living up to his expectations. Fields and Wilson are struggling and Jones is just okay.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I don't always agree with decisions made by Kyle and John but I bow to them because they know more about the players and the team than any of us do. They are there 7 days a weeks. Their jobs depend on the decisions they make. Even the Trey Lance fiasco was the right decision at the time. It turned out bd but trying to get a top QB when you have the chance is never a bad idea. For teams like the Niners that chance doesn't come around often. It's unfortunate that the 2 times they had a chance to get a QB early in the draft it wasn't a great year for QBs. When tey drafted Alex Smith he was considered to be better than Rodgers. They were really the only 2 in that class. The class that had Trey in it has faired poorly. Only Lawrence is living up to his expectations. Fields and Wilson are struggling and Jones is just okay.
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Kyle said 'random stuff', but the Zone know it as Jimmy's WTF plays lol
For sure. Lol any real fan, whether you liked jimmy or not, knows that he had a ton of wtf plays. Plays that you can't even really explain. Lol he's had them in all his raider games too.
I've said it a million times, I like jimmy, but he has limitations. The more I've watched him with the raiders, the more I've realized how great of a job kyle did with him. The way he protected the team, and jimmy, from jimmy. Lol I love Kyle and always have, but now I have even more respect for him after watching jimmy in his first three raiders game.
Just watching Brock, its so clear how much of a better mind he has for the game. He sees the fields and reads the defenses exponentially better. Even when Brock has a bad throw/read - it's explainable. Lol it's usually he was late on the throw or he didn't see a defender. With jimmy it's like "I have absolutely no clue why he attempted or what he was thinking". Lmao
I liked Jimmy, but you can tell he's a bit of a meathead. Brock is much more cerebral and doesn't get panicky like Jimmy.
all this jimmy slander.. lol
I've defended him a lot, and still do depending on the criticism, but the more I watch him with the raiders - the more I realize it was mainly Kyle and the talent around him. I question how well jimmy can even go through 3-4 reads after watching him recently.
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More and more of the Jimmy Club will come to see the obvious. Not saying you're a card carrying member or anything.
The point of jimmy's time here, is that he shouldn't have been treated the way he was treated. As the scapegoat for everything. By the 49er press, by the front office. We could win with Jimmy, and Jimmy can win elsewhere. Is Brock doing things Jimmy didn't? Yes. And many other qb's too. Not a knock on Jimmy. And lets not make it like shanny got nothing to clean up. he did when coaching for Jimmy, and now with brock as well. I could get into it, but that's for another thread.
Just want to end this post with, thank you Jimmy for how helped us get to the next level, and best wishes where ever you go.
Feels great baby. (4TD's that day)
How did the FO scapegoat Jimmy?
expecting better play from all the team's positions and moving on from players that can't stay healthy, or don't perform up to expectations is not scapegoating. The FO was always supportive of Jimmy until it was clearly time to move on. Maybe some fans didn't get the memo,
SSeriously. Jimmy was hung out to dry by the fo and blamed for lots of issues that I kept us from getting over the top. It's ridiculous that we're even here discussing why a quarterback who's ranked consistently between 8 and 12:00 and the league is the reason for us not being successful. I don't know what's happening in LA but I'm pretty sure it's a s**tshow there like it was last year with car and Jimmy will try to make the best of it maybe we can stop our classless behavior and just wish him well for all the hits he took panty played of through including his performance in the playoffs before he left with one ligament barely attached on his shoulder and a thumb problem too. Sheesh.
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Kyle said 'random stuff', but the Zone know it as Jimmy's WTF plays lol
For sure. Lol any real fan, whether you liked jimmy or not, knows that he had a ton of wtf plays. Plays that you can't even really explain. Lol he's had them in all his raider games too.
I've said it a million times, I like jimmy, but he has limitations. The more I've watched him with the raiders, the more I've realized how great of a job kyle did with him. The way he protected the team, and jimmy, from jimmy. Lol I love Kyle and always have, but now I have even more respect for him after watching jimmy in his first three raiders game.
Just watching Brock, its so clear how much of a better mind he has for the game. He sees the fields and reads the defenses exponentially better. Even when Brock has a bad throw/read - it's explainable. Lol it's usually he was late on the throw or he didn't see a defender. With jimmy it's like "I have absolutely no clue why he attempted or what he was thinking". Lmao
I liked Jimmy, but you can tell he's a bit of a meathead. Brock is much more cerebral and doesn't get panicky like Jimmy.
all this jimmy slander.. lol
I've defended him a lot, and still do depending on the criticism, but the more I watch him with the raiders - the more I realize it was mainly Kyle and the talent around him. I question how well jimmy can even go through 3-4 reads after watching him recently.
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More and more of the Jimmy Club will come to see the obvious. Not saying you're a card carrying member or anything.
The point of jimmy's time here, is that he shouldn't have been treated the way he was treated. As the scapegoat for everything. By the 49er press, by the front office. We could win with Jimmy, and Jimmy can win elsewhere. Is Brock doing things Jimmy didn't? Yes. And many other qb's too. Not a knock on Jimmy. And lets not make it like shanny got nothing to clean up. he did when coaching for Jimmy, and now with brock as well. I could get into it, but that's for another thread.
Just want to end this post with, thank you Jimmy for how helped us get to the next level, and best wishes where ever you go.
Feels great baby. (4TD's that day)
Jimmy isn't winning right now. Even his star WR wants to get away from him.
If he was a better QB we would've had at least one SB. He held back an extremely talented roster
OOf course. It's all on jimmy. Exactly. Exactly my point.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I don't always agree with decisions made by Kyle and John but I bow to them because they know more about the players and the team than any of us do. They are there 7 days a weeks. Their jobs depend on the decisions they make. Even the Trey Lance fiasco was the right decision at the time. It turned out bd but trying to get a top QB when you have the chance is never a bad idea. For teams like the Niners that chance doesn't come around often. It's unfortunate that the 2 times they had a chance to get a QB early in the draft it wasn't a great year for QBs. When tey drafted Alex Smith he was considered to be better than Rodgers. They were really the only 2 in that class. The class that had Trey in it has faired poorly. Only Lawrence is living up to his expectations. Fields and Wilson are struggling and Jones is just okay.
Yeah, their first year when we desperately needed a QB - they missed hard cause kyle was focused on getting cousins in free agency. They actually tried to trade the top 3 pick AND some (per jay gruden) for cousins but Washington wouldn't listen cause they hate the shanahans.
i think I read something that Kyle didn't really bother even looking at the QBs in the 2017 draft cause he knew the plan was to get cousins. Honestly, cousins is the worst thing that ever happened to the niners and he's never been a niner. Lol such a mediocre player who gets a ton of stats when it matters least - he usually don't do well when the game is within reach and then balls out when they're down a lot. One of the worst kind to have. We are lucky we lucked into Brock.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I don't always agree with decisions made by Kyle and John but I bow to them because they know more about the players and the team than any of us do. They are there 7 days a weeks. Their jobs depend on the decisions they make. Even the Trey Lance fiasco was the right decision at the time. It turned out bd but trying to get a top QB when you have the chance is never a bad idea. For teams like the Niners that chance doesn't come around often. It's unfortunate that the 2 times they had a chance to get a QB early in the draft it wasn't a great year for QBs. When tey drafted Alex Smith he was considered to be better than Rodgers. They were really the only 2 in that class. The class that had Trey in it has faired poorly. Only Lawrence is living up to his expectations. Fields and Wilson are struggling and Jones is just okay.
Yeah, their first year when we desperately needed a QB - they missed hard cause kyle was focused on getting cousins in free agency. They actually tried to trade the top 3 pick AND some (per jay gruden) for cousins but Washington wouldn't listen cause they hate the shanahans.
i think I read something that Kyle didn't really bother even looking at the QBs in the 2017 draft cause he knew the plan was to get cousins. Honestly, cousins is the worst thing that ever happened to the niners and he's never been a niner. Lol such a mediocre player who gets a ton of stats when it matters least - he usually don't do well when the game is within reach and then balls out when they're down a lot. One of the worst kind to have. We are lucky we lucked into Brock.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I don't always agree with decisions made by Kyle and John but I bow to them because they know more about the players and the team than any of us do. They are there 7 days a weeks. Their jobs depend on the decisions they make. Even the Trey Lance fiasco was the right decision at the time. It turned out bd but trying to get a top QB when you have the chance is never a bad idea. For teams like the Niners that chance doesn't come around often. It's unfortunate that the 2 times they had a chance to get a QB early in the draft it wasn't a great year for QBs. When tey drafted Alex Smith he was considered to be better than Rodgers. They were really the only 2 in that class. The class that had Trey in it has faired poorly. Only Lawrence is living up to his expectations. Fields and Wilson are struggling and Jones is just okay.
Yeah, their first year when we desperately needed a QB - they missed hard cause kyle was focused on getting cousins in free agency. They actually tried to trade the top 3 pick AND some (per jay gruden) for cousins but Washington wouldn't listen cause they hate the shanahans.
i think I read something that Kyle didn't really bother even looking at the QBs in the 2017 draft cause he knew the plan was to get cousins. Honestly, cousins is the worst thing that ever happened to the niners and he's never been a niner. Lol such a mediocre player who gets a ton of stats when it matters least - he usually don't do well when the game is within reach and then balls out when they're down a lot. One of the worst kind to have. We are lucky we lucked into Brock.
John Lynch alluded to it in an interview
Sounds right. Then we could of had Lamar jackson in 2018, although im not too miffed about that one.
misses happen, it is what it is, the only part that bothers me is that Kyle didn't do his due diligence on the available QBs like he should have in 2017, or at least have an assistant do, and just decided cousins was better than them. I bet he learned a lot from that mistake but that's the only thing that annoys me about it.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I don't always agree with decisions made by Kyle and John but I bow to them because they know more about the players and the team than any of us do. They are there 7 days a weeks. Their jobs depend on the decisions they make. Even the Trey Lance fiasco was the right decision at the time. It turned out bd but trying to get a top QB when you have the chance is never a bad idea. For teams like the Niners that chance doesn't come around often. It's unfortunate that the 2 times they had a chance to get a QB early in the draft it wasn't a great year for QBs. When tey drafted Alex Smith he was considered to be better than Rodgers. They were really the only 2 in that class. The class that had Trey in it has faired poorly. Only Lawrence is living up to his expectations. Fields and Wilson are struggling and Jones is just okay.
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Yeah, their first year when we desperately needed a QB - they missed hard cause kyle was focused on getting cousins in free agency. They actually tried to trade the top 3 pick AND some (per jay gruden) for cousins but Washington wouldn't listen cause they hate the shanahans.
i think I read something that Kyle didn't really bother even looking at the QBs in the 2017 draft cause he knew the plan was to get cousins. Honestly, cousins is the worst thing that ever happened to the niners and he's never been a niner. Lol such a mediocre player who gets a ton of stats when it matters least - he usually don't do well when the game is within reach and then balls out when they're down a lot. One of the worst kind to have. We are lucky we lucked into Brock.
John Lynch alluded to it in an interview
Sounds right. Then we could of had Lamar jackson in 2018, although im not too miffed about that one.
misses happen, it is what it is, the only part that bothers me is that Kyle didn't do his due diligence on the available QBs like he should have in 2017, or at least have an assistant do, and just decided cousins was better than them. I bet he learned a lot from that mistake but that's the only thing that annoys me about it.
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Kyle said 'random stuff', but the Zone know it as Jimmy's WTF plays lol
For sure. Lol any real fan, whether you liked jimmy or not, knows that he had a ton of wtf plays. Plays that you can't even really explain. Lol he's had them in all his raider games too.
I've said it a million times, I like jimmy, but he has limitations. The more I've watched him with the raiders, the more I've realized how great of a job kyle did with him. The way he protected the team, and jimmy, from jimmy. Lol I love Kyle and always have, but now I have even more respect for him after watching jimmy in his first three raiders game.
Just watching Brock, its so clear how much of a better mind he has for the game. He sees the fields and reads the defenses exponentially better. Even when Brock has a bad throw/read - it's explainable. Lol it's usually he was late on the throw or he didn't see a defender. With jimmy it's like "I have absolutely no clue why he attempted or what he was thinking". Lmao
I liked Jimmy, but you can tell he's a bit of a meathead. Brock is much more cerebral and doesn't get panicky like Jimmy.
all this jimmy slander.. lol
I've defended him a lot, and still do depending on the criticism, but the more I watch him with the raiders - the more I realize it was mainly Kyle and the talent around him. I question how well jimmy can even go through 3-4 reads after watching him recently.
More and more of the Jimmy Club will come to see the obvious. Not saying you're a card carrying member or anything.
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The point of jimmy's time here, is that he shouldn't have been treated the way he was treated. As the scapegoat for everything. By the 49er press, by the front office. We could win with Jimmy, and Jimmy can win elsewhere. Is Brock doing things Jimmy didn't? Yes. And many other qb's too. Not a knock on Jimmy. And lets not make it like shanny got nothing to clean up. he did when coaching for Jimmy, and now with brock as well. I could get into it, but that's for another thread.
Just want to end this post with, thank you Jimmy for how helped us get to the next level, and best wishes where ever you go.
Feels great baby. (4TD's that day)
Jimmy isn't winning right now. Even his star WR wants to get away from him.
If he was a better QB we would've had at least one SB. He held back an extremely talented roster
OOf course. It's all on jimmy. Exactly. Exactly my point.
For the most part ya. If he would've played like a top 10 QB we could've easily had a couple SBs. Hence the reason the team was trying to move from him since the SB loss. Looking at Brady, Rodgers, Stafford and even though a QB with not even 200 passing attempts was a better answer. Now he's on a team that isn't as good and is playing exactly like most people thought he would.
Glad he's finally gone and we have a real QB now
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Best throw of the game. The type of throw posters said he didn't have the arm for.
That's about as perfect and beautiful of a pass there is. Literally couldn't of thrown it any better. Perfect timing, ball placement, and layering.
he threw a similar pass/route for the touchdown to bell too. Earlier in the game, before the bell touchdown, he attempted one to deebo in the same part of the endzone but it was broken up. Those aren't easy passes.
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Kyle said 'random stuff', but the Zone know it as Jimmy's WTF plays lol
For sure. Lol any real fan, whether you liked jimmy or not, knows that he had a ton of wtf plays. Plays that you can't even really explain. Lol he's had them in all his raider games too.
I've said it a million times, I like jimmy, but he has limitations. The more I've watched him with the raiders, the more I've realized how great of a job kyle did with him. The way he protected the team, and jimmy, from jimmy. Lol I love Kyle and always have, but now I have even more respect for him after watching jimmy in his first three raiders game.
Just watching Brock, its so clear how much of a better mind he has for the game. He sees the fields and reads the defenses exponentially better. Even when Brock has a bad throw/read - it's explainable. Lol it's usually he was late on the throw or he didn't see a defender. With jimmy it's like "I have absolutely no clue why he attempted or what he was thinking". Lmao
I liked Jimmy, but you can tell he's a bit of a meathead. Brock is much more cerebral and doesn't get panicky like Jimmy.
all this jimmy slander.. lol
I've defended him a lot, and still do depending on the criticism, but the more I watch him with the raiders - the more I realize it was mainly Kyle and the talent around him. I question how well jimmy can even go through 3-4 reads after watching him recently.
More and more of the Jimmy Club will come to see the obvious. Not saying you're a card carrying member or anything.
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The point of jimmy's time here, is that he shouldn't have been treated the way he was treated. As the scapegoat for everything. By the 49er press, by the front office. We could win with Jimmy, and Jimmy can win elsewhere. Is Brock doing things Jimmy didn't? Yes. And many other qb's too. Not a knock on Jimmy. And lets not make it like shanny got nothing to clean up. he did when coaching for Jimmy, and now with brock as well. I could get into it, but that's for another thread.
Just want to end this post with, thank you Jimmy for how helped us get to the next level, and best wishes where ever you go.
Feels great baby. (4TD's that day)
How did the FO scapegoat Jimmy?
expecting better play from all the team's positions and moving on from players that can't stay healthy, or don't perform up to expectations is not scapegoating. The FO was always supportive of Jimmy until it was clearly time to move on. Maybe some fans didn't get the memo,
SSeriously. Jimmy was hung out to dry by the fo and blamed for lots of issues that I kept us from getting over the top. It's ridiculous that we're even here discussing why a quarterback who's ranked consistently between 8 and 12:00 and the league is the reason for us not being successful. I don't know what's happening in LA but I'm pretty sure it's a s**tshow there like it was last year with car and Jimmy will try to make the best of it maybe we can stop our classless behavior and just wish him well for all the hits he took panty played of through including his performance in the playoffs before he left with one ligament barely attached on his shoulder and a thumb problem too. Sheesh.
Can you provide specific examples where the FO scapegoated or blamed Jimmy?
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Jimmy is gone guys. It's okay to move on. If you still feel the need to discuss Jimmy, there is a thread for that.
let's get this back to our Franchise QB
Yeah I don't understand why people post so much about Jimmy in here. This is the Brock Show now. Go to the Raiders thread. LOL.
