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Originally posted by bospiiv49w:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Maybe, maybe not. My pet peeve with Jimmy was his terrible durability. That's the reason ShanaLynch went after Trey Lance. Brock's durability is still a question mark for me. He was injured in the NFCCG, sort of like Jimmy also, with his shoulder and his hand in that other NFCCG/playoff game.

I personally blame Kyle for Pudy's injury. He knew Hassan Riddick doesn't do run defense and just rushes QBs. That's the problem with Kyle's play action system - if the Defense doesn't buy Kyle's eye candy, his QB is toast. I think QB durability - in general - is important in any offense, but in Kyle's fake run and throw from the naked boot pass system, durability is a premium for his QBs. I.e. its Much more important to his offense than other offenses in general, because when Kyle's QBs get hit, they get lit up, and not just hit. Contrast that to the Bellichick offense which is more of a pass first offense. Brady very rarely got injured in that offense .

It wasn't Kyle's fault. Brock should've stepped up on that play. See Ringer's breakdown.

Disagree. Kyle panicked because Eagles scored previously and Kyle didn't challenge the Eagle TD. He tends to panick a bit in the playoffs.
Man that was a hell of a catch my mostert lol

my bad, wrong thread
[ Edited by tankle104 on Oct 1, 2023 at 10:45 AM ]
Originally posted by tankle104:
Yeah, I'd say that. Just because of how Brock held up against the cowboys defense in the playoffs last year. He wasn't incredible but didn't get shook and was solid. I've yet to see tua play like that against a top defense in the pros. He may have and I just missed it.

I like tua and he was really fun to watch in college. I'm not hating on him, just skeptical. He's off to a great start in this Buffalo game. Bills defense hasn't looked all that impressive.

It's so hard to believe team rankings this early in the season cause it's a small sample size.

The Cowboys would've won it if Dak didn't throw those 2 INTs.
Originally posted by bospiiv49w:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Yeah, I'd say that. Just because of how Brock held up against the cowboys defense in the playoffs last year. He wasn't incredible but didn't get shook and was solid. I've yet to see tua play like that against a top defense in the pros. He may have and I just missed it.

I like tua and he was really fun to watch in college. I'm not hating on him, just skeptical. He's off to a great start in this Buffalo game. Bills defense hasn't looked all that impressive.

It's so hard to believe team rankings this early in the season cause it's a small sample size.

The Cowboys would've won it if Dak didn't throw those 2 INTs.

Lmao but he did turn them over. Did Brock turn it
over? No because he doesn't get overwhelmed like dak and tua does against good defenses.
Originally posted by bospiiv49w:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Yeah, I'd say that. Just because of how Brock held up against the cowboys defense in the playoffs last year. He wasn't incredible but didn't get shook and was solid. I've yet to see tua play like that against a top defense in the pros. He may have and I just missed it.

I like tua and he was really fun to watch in college. I'm not hating on him, just skeptical. He's off to a great start in this Buffalo game. Bills defense hasn't looked all that impressive.

It's so hard to believe team rankings this early in the season cause it's a small sample size.

The Cowboys would've won it if Dak didn't throw those 2 INTs.

Both quarterbacks faced great defenses. Our quarterback didn't throw interceptions. Their's did.
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I don't always agree with decisions made by Kyle and John but I bow to them because they know more about the players and the team than any of us do. They are there 7 days a weeks. Their jobs depend on the decisions they make. Even the Trey Lance fiasco was the right decision at the time. It turned out bd but trying to get a top QB when you have the chance is never a bad idea. For teams like the Niners that chance doesn't come around often. It's unfortunate that the 2 times they had a chance to get a QB early in the draft it wasn't a great year for QBs. When tey drafted Alex Smith he was considered to be better than Rodgers. They were really the only 2 in that class. The class that had Trey in it has faired poorly. Only Lawrence is living up to his expectations. Fields and Wilson are struggling and Jones is just okay.

What?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_NFL_Draft

Yeah, their first year when we desperately needed a QB - they missed hard cause kyle was focused on getting cousins in free agency. They actually tried to trade the top 3 pick AND some (per jay gruden) for cousins but Washington wouldn't listen cause they hate the shanahans.

i think I read something that Kyle didn't really bother even looking at the QBs in the 2017 draft cause he knew the plan was to get cousins. Honestly, cousins is the worst thing that ever happened to the niners and he's never been a niner. Lol such a mediocre player who gets a ton of stats when it matters least - he usually don't do well when the game is within reach and then balls out when they're down a lot. One of the worst kind to have. We are lucky we lucked into Brock.

John Lynch alluded to it in an interview

If you want to blame Kyle instead of Jimmy for something, blame Kyle for passing on Mahomes for Cousins. That was BY FAR his biggest error.

Mahomes was not viewed as some can't miss prospect. He couldn't read defenses coming out of college. His NFL draft grade was 6.3 out of 8 with a comparison of Jay Cutler. So maybe here years later in hindsight you can say it was a miss, but nobody was saying that on draft day.
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I don't always agree with decisions made by Kyle and John but I bow to them because they know more about the players and the team than any of us do. They are there 7 days a weeks. Their jobs depend on the decisions they make. Even the Trey Lance fiasco was the right decision at the time. It turned out bd but trying to get a top QB when you have the chance is never a bad idea. For teams like the Niners that chance doesn't come around often. It's unfortunate that the 2 times they had a chance to get a QB early in the draft it wasn't a great year for QBs. When tey drafted Alex Smith he was considered to be better than Rodgers. They were really the only 2 in that class. The class that had Trey in it has faired poorly. Only Lawrence is living up to his expectations. Fields and Wilson are struggling and Jones is just okay.

What?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_NFL_Draft

Yeah, their first year when we desperately needed a QB - they missed hard cause kyle was focused on getting cousins in free agency. They actually tried to trade the top 3 pick AND some (per jay gruden) for cousins but Washington wouldn't listen cause they hate the shanahans.

i think I read something that Kyle didn't really bother even looking at the QBs in the 2017 draft cause he knew the plan was to get cousins. Honestly, cousins is the worst thing that ever happened to the niners and he's never been a niner. Lol such a mediocre player who gets a ton of stats when it matters least - he usually don't do well when the game is within reach and then balls out when they're down a lot. One of the worst kind to have. We are lucky we lucked into Brock.

John Lynch alluded to it in an interview

If you want to blame Kyle instead of Jimmy for something, blame Kyle for passing on Mahomes for Cousins. That was BY FAR his biggest error.

Mahomes was not viewed as some can't miss prospect. He couldn't read defenses coming out of college. His NFL draft grade was 6.3 out of 8 with a comparison of Jay Cutler. So maybe here years later in hindsight you can say it was a miss, but nobody was saying that on draft day.

The perfection of hindsight.
Originally posted by Gabberwocky:
Football's Day
An laggard I lounge
With sensual thoughts
Of Brock on mein couch.

🏈🐔🏈

Not bad, not bad 😆

@tankle, I trust BP more than Tua as well.
[ Edited by Montana on Oct 1, 2023 at 12:09 PM ]
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by bospiiv49w:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Yeah, I'd say that. Just because of how Brock held up against the cowboys defense in the playoffs last year. He wasn't incredible but didn't get shook and was solid. I've yet to see tua play like that against a top defense in the pros. He may have and I just missed it.

I like tua and he was really fun to watch in college. I'm not hating on him, just skeptical. He's off to a great start in this Buffalo game. Bills defense hasn't looked all that impressive.

It's so hard to believe team rankings this early in the season cause it's a small sample size.

The Cowboys would've won it if Dak didn't throw those 2 INTs.

Lmao but he did turn them over. Did Brock turn it
over? No because he doesn't get overwhelmed like dak and tua does against good defenses.

Yes, Brock has that "it" factor that makes him cool under fire,(blitz), he has that 6th sense when somebody is about to nail him and somehow, like Joe did, makes an escape, and yes , against good Ds, he doesn't get overwhelmed…which in a kid who never started a game before, almost from the beginning, it was obvious he was special. He definitely is a stud at reading Ds, and is the best at this of anyone we have had since Joe or Steve.
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Yes, Brock has that "it" factor that makes him cool under fire,(blitz), he has that 6th sense when somebody is about to nail him and somehow, like Joe did, makes an escape, and yes , against good Ds, he doesn't get overwhelmed…which in a kid who never started a game before, almost from the beginning, it was obvious he was special. He definitely is a stud at reading Ds, and is the best at this of anyone we have had since Joe or Steve.

I concur
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by bospiiv49w:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Yeah, I'd say that. Just because of how Brock held up against the cowboys defense in the playoffs last year. He wasn't incredible but didn't get shook and was solid. I've yet to see tua play like that against a top defense in the pros. He may have and I just missed it.

I like tua and he was really fun to watch in college. I'm not hating on him, just skeptical. He's off to a great start in this Buffalo game. Bills defense hasn't looked all that impressive.

It's so hard to believe team rankings this early in the season cause it's a small sample size.

The Cowboys would've won it if Dak didn't throw those 2 INTs.

Lmao but he did turn them over. Did Brock turn it
over? No because he doesn't get overwhelmed like dak and tua does against good defenses.

Brock would have won if he didn't throw those two Ints… oh wait he didn't and we won! My bad
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I don't always agree with decisions made by Kyle and John but I bow to them because they know more about the players and the team than any of us do. They are there 7 days a weeks. Their jobs depend on the decisions they make. Even the Trey Lance fiasco was the right decision at the time. It turned out bd but trying to get a top QB when you have the chance is never a bad idea. For teams like the Niners that chance doesn't come around often. It's unfortunate that the 2 times they had a chance to get a QB early in the draft it wasn't a great year for QBs. When tey drafted Alex Smith he was considered to be better than Rodgers. They were really the only 2 in that class. The class that had Trey in it has faired poorly. Only Lawrence is living up to his expectations. Fields and Wilson are struggling and Jones is just okay.

What?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_NFL_Draft

Yeah, their first year when we desperately needed a QB - they missed hard cause kyle was focused on getting cousins in free agency. They actually tried to trade the top 3 pick AND some (per jay gruden) for cousins but Washington wouldn't listen cause they hate the shanahans.

i think I read something that Kyle didn't really bother even looking at the QBs in the 2017 draft cause he knew the plan was to get cousins. Honestly, cousins is the worst thing that ever happened to the niners and he's never been a niner. Lol such a mediocre player who gets a ton of stats when it matters least - he usually don't do well when the game is within reach and then balls out when they're down a lot. One of the worst kind to have. We are lucky we lucked into Brock.

John Lynch alluded to it in an interview

If you want to blame Kyle instead of Jimmy for something, blame Kyle for passing on Mahomes for Cousins. That was BY FAR his biggest error.

Mahomes was not viewed as some can't miss prospect. He couldn't read defenses coming out of college. His NFL draft grade was 6.3 out of 8 with a comparison of Jay Cutler. So maybe here years later in hindsight you can say it was a miss, but nobody was saying that on draft day.

Who said he couldn't read defenses? Not having practice with NFL schemes isn't the same thing as "can't read defenses." I literally never saw him hesitate in confusion one time in all the film I watched of him. I saw him throw passes the scheme said he shouldn't, but that just means he outplayed the scheme.

EDIT: in fact this is getting so lame I'm going to say this right now:

The things we all like about Brock here on this board? Mahomes REPEATEDLY showed them in college. Over and over again. The quick reaction time. Finding the open guy. Moving in the pocket. Throwing with multiple arm angles. I mean if we're all so sure about Brock, why was Mahomes such a mystery? He wasn't. What he was was a guy with unusual mechanics who played in a spread system. That is IT. The is ALL that made him fall AAAAAAALLLLLL the way to 10TH OVERALL. Tenth. In round one.
[ Edited by 5_Golden_Rings on Oct 1, 2023 at 12:24 PM ]
Originally posted by Montana:
Originally posted by Gabberwocky:
Football's Day
An laggard I lounge
With sensual thoughts
Of Brock on mein couch.

🏈🐔🏈

Not bad, not bad 😆

@tankle, I trust BP more than Tua as well.

I trust Brock with my unborn child. I trust Brock with my gf after she took a horny pill and I'm gone away at war. He's an angel
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Montana:
Originally posted by Gabberwocky:
Football's Day
An laggard I lounge
With sensual thoughts
Of Brock on mein couch.

🏈🐔🏈

Not bad, not bad 😆

@tankle, I trust BP more than Tua as well.

I trust Brock with my unborn child. I trust Brock with my gf after she took a horny pill and I'm gone away at war. He's an angel

Now, intuitively you'd think you wouldn't trust Jimmy with your gf under any circumstances. But after Jimmy successfully seduces her away from you, you'll take one look at his winning smile and realize that what has happened is genuinely for the best. And in fact, you'll smile, because you'll realize you at one time bagged a woman that Jimmy has been in. That smile won't leave your face for a week.
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Montana:
Originally posted by Gabberwocky:
Football's Day
An laggard I lounge
With sensual thoughts
Of Brock on mein couch.

🏈🐔🏈

Not bad, not bad 😆

@tankle, I trust BP more than Tua as well.

I trust Brock with my unborn child. I trust Brock with my gf after she took a horny pill and I'm gone away at war. He's an angel

Now, intuitively you'd think you wouldn't trust Jimmy with your gf under any circumstances. But after Jimmy successfully seduces her away from you, you'll take one look at his winning smile and realize that what has happened is genuinely for the best. And in fact, you'll smile, because you'll realize you at one time bagged a woman that Jimmy has been in. That smile won't leave your face for a week.

I'd stab jimmy in this scenario. He wouldn't live to smile. I'd let him have her if he had won the super bowl but since he hasn't, I can't let it fly. I'm not gonna let a loser punk me like that, hell nah.
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