QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by 49ers81:

Originally posted by RickyRoma:
It's one thing to say that Purdy is processing quickly, making proper pre and post snap decisions, getting the ball to his playmakers, maneuvering within the pocket, etc. etc - which he is obviously doing at a very high level right now. I'm very happy that he's doing this at this level, at his age, and I can see the improvements from last year to this year which means he's only taking steps in the right direction.

Calling him a generational talent, and that term 'elite?' No way I can say that now.....and maybe I'll never truly say it. My definition regarding to those terms probably differs from most. Those type of guys are the ones who can deliver in the clutch. 1:30 left in the game, down by 4+. Can he deliver against a top tiered opponent? A guy who has no running game, no explosive targets, and is the absolute focal point for every defense he faces....and can still carry his team. A guy whose pocket collapses and he's getting a beating...can he still stand strong in the teeth of that pass rush and not flinch? A guy who raises his game in the bigger games - division games on the line, playoffs, Super Bowls. Elite is Joe Montana. He didn't build that case on trashing the Falcons for 400 yards and 4 TD's in some week 7 game. That made him an excellent QB. He built his legacy against the Cowboys and Bengals in two of the most famous drives in NFL history. He built his legacy against the Eagles in 1989 - probably the best game I've ever seen a QB play.

I'm NOT saying Purdy can't do stuff like this.....I have yet to see it on a consistent basis, because there simply hasn't been the body of work for me to come to that conclusion. I hope he is the guy.

Okay, name ONE player in the history of the NFL who could actually meet that criteria.

Lol imagine judging a qb if his team can recover an onside kick or not

Originally posted by RickyRoma:
It's one thing to say that Purdy is processing quickly, making proper pre and post snap decisions, getting the ball to his playmakers, maneuvering within the pocket, etc. etc - which he is obviously doing at a very high level right now. I'm very happy that he's doing this at this level, at his age, and I can see the improvements from last year to this year which means he's only taking steps in the right direction.

Calling him a generational talent, and that term 'elite?' No way I can say that now.....and maybe I'll never truly say it. My definition regarding to those terms probably differs from most. Those type of guys are the ones who can deliver in the clutch. 1:30 left in the game, down by 4+. Can he deliver against a top tiered opponent? A guy who has no running game, no explosive targets, and is the absolute focal point for every defense he faces....and can still carry his team. A guy whose pocket collapses and he's getting a beating...can he still stand strong in the teeth of that pass rush and not flinch? A guy who raises his game in the bigger games - division games on the line, playoffs, Super Bowls. Elite is Joe Montana. He didn't build that case on trashing the Falcons for 400 yards and 4 TD's in some week 7 game. That made him an excellent QB. He built his legacy against the Cowboys and Bengals in two of the most famous drives in NFL history. He built his legacy against the Eagles in 1989 - probably the best game I've ever seen a QB play.

I'm NOT saying Purdy can't do stuff like this.....I have yet to see it on a consistent basis, because there simply hasn't been the body of work for me to come to that conclusion. I hope he is the guy.

Dude, Montana was in his 3rd year when he won his first. He was also in a revolutionary system with an amazing team pre salary cap.

Your requirements are not something you can put on a 2nd year starter, those kind of things happen over 4 or 5 years.

Originally posted by jimmy3233:
LMFAO at least top 15ish. Since he has been playing football last year, he has not lost a f**kING GAME. Please list the 14 QBs better than him and state the reasons why they are better. Also who gives a f**k who rates him 30th. Listen to guys like Baldinger who is saying he's the best QB in the league this year based on actually watching every snap he has played. Why do you quote some random f**kers that post clickbait articles so they can make their minimum wage salaries for some s**t news website no one cares about. Btw two fat white dudes on GMF are raving about Purdy and Eisen talking about him as MVP so not every single media person is doubting him.

As for this one game, he already beat Dak's fat ass last year in the most important game of his life (playoffs more important the RS). He'll win again on Sunday as long as we stay healthy and refs don't f**k us over completely.

Watch film, stop posting articles by f**king nobodies. No one processes the game like him and no one is playing at a higher level this year.

He already has 2 playoff wins where he outplayed Fat Dak (who has 2 playoff wins in 7 f**king years, Herbert is even worse with 0 in like what 4-5 years). Allen and Burrow have the same number of SB wins as Jimmy G so they are failures as far as I am concerned.

He's easily top 10 right now. That may be a little low. Maybe top 5. 15 is ridiculous. Just watch the damn games. He's light years better than that. Ruiz is a complete clown. Anyone listing him below 20 or below 25 has never watched him play and certainly doesn't understand football. They are just making a complete fool of themselves.

Originally posted by Buchy:
Dude, Montana was in his 3rd year when he won his first. He was also in a revolutionary system with an amazing team pre salary cap.

Your requirements are not something you can put on a 2nd year starter, those kind of things happen over 4 or 5 years.

That's right.

What Rodgers said about brock is exactly what i was thinking as well

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
What Rodgers said about brock is exactly what i was thinking as well

Yes Rodgers is right. Purdy is really good.

Originally posted by 49ers81:
Okay, name ONE player in the history of the NFL who could actually meet that criteria.

Montana did it early in his career. So did Brady and Elway. Those are guys who I consider all time elite guys.

Originally posted by Buchy:

Originally posted by RickyRoma:
It's one thing to say that Purdy is processing quickly, making proper pre and post snap decisions, getting the ball to his playmakers, maneuvering within the pocket, etc. etc - which he is obviously doing at a very high level right now. I'm very happy that he's doing this at this level, at his age, and I can see the improvements from last year to this year which means he's only taking steps in the right direction.

Calling him a generational talent, and that term 'elite?' No way I can say that now.....and maybe I'll never truly say it. My definition regarding to those terms probably differs from most. Those type of guys are the ones who can deliver in the clutch. 1:30 left in the game, down by 4+. Can he deliver against a top tiered opponent? A guy who has no running game, no explosive targets, and is the absolute focal point for every defense he faces....and can still carry his team. A guy whose pocket collapses and he's getting a beating...can he still stand strong in the teeth of that pass rush and not flinch? A guy who raises his game in the bigger games - division games on the line, playoffs, Super Bowls. Elite is Joe Montana. He didn't build that case on trashing the Falcons for 400 yards and 4 TD's in some week 7 game. That made him an excellent QB. He built his legacy against the Cowboys and Bengals in two of the most famous drives in NFL history. He built his legacy against the Eagles in 1989 - probably the best game I've ever seen a QB play.

I'm NOT saying Purdy can't do stuff like this.....I have yet to see it on a consistent basis, because there simply hasn't been the body of work for me to come to that conclusion. I hope he is the guy.

Dude, Montana was in his 3rd year when he won his first. He was also in a revolutionary system with an amazing team pre salary cap.

Your requirements are not something you can put on a 2nd year starter, those kind of things happen over 4 or 5 years.

Look at what I bolded in my original post. Do you NOT see the part where I said he doesn't have the body of work for me to come to the conclusion of whether he is 'elite?'

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by 49ers81:
Okay, name ONE player in the history of the NFL who could actually meet that criteria.

Montana did it early in his career. So did Brady and Elway. Those are guys who I consider all time elite guys.

Montana, Brady and Elway didn't win every single game they are down in. It just seems like that. They lost some too. It's far better to play ahead.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Montana, Brady and Elway didn't win every single game they are down in. It just seems like that. They lost some too. It's far better to play ahead.

Did I say they won every single time? I said those guys delivered in clutch moments, did so with some lesser talent, etc. and that IMO, those are traits that make 'elite' QB's.

Originally posted by Buchy:

Originally posted by RickyRoma:
It's one thing to say that Purdy is processing quickly, making proper pre and post snap decisions, getting the ball to his playmakers, maneuvering within the pocket, etc. etc - which he is obviously doing at a very high level right now. I'm very happy that he's doing this at this level, at his age, and I can see the improvements from last year to this year which means he's only taking steps in the right direction.

Calling him a generational talent, and that term 'elite?' No way I can say that now.....and maybe I'll never truly say it. My definition regarding to those terms probably differs from most. Those type of guys are the ones who can deliver in the clutch. 1:30 left in the game, down by 4+. Can he deliver against a top tiered opponent? A guy who has no running game, no explosive targets, and is the absolute focal point for every defense he faces....and can still carry his team. A guy whose pocket collapses and he's getting a beating...can he still stand strong in the teeth of that pass rush and not flinch? A guy who raises his game in the bigger games - division games on the line, playoffs, Super Bowls. Elite is Joe Montana. He didn't build that case on trashing the Falcons for 400 yards and 4 TD's in some week 7 game. That made him an excellent QB. He built his legacy against the Cowboys and Bengals in two of the most famous drives in NFL history. He built his legacy against the Eagles in 1989 - probably the best game I've ever seen a QB play.

I'm NOT saying Purdy can't do stuff like this.....I have yet to see it on a consistent basis, because there simply hasn't been the body of work for me to come to that conclusion. I hope he is the guy.

Dude, Montana was in his 3rd year when he won his first. He was also in a revolutionary system with an amazing team pre salary cap.

Your requirements are not something you can put on a 2nd year starter, those kind of things happen over 4 or 5 years.

Those requirements don't even apply to Montana or....anyone.

"No gunning game, no explosive targets" Ok.....So...Montana is out. He had Craig, Dwight Clark, John Taylor, Jerry Rice, Tom Rathman.

Tom? Well, they beat INDY in the playoffs, they ran for over 200 yards. He had Wes Welker, Julian Edelman, Randy Moss, Gronkowski and a slew of other players over the years.

Mahomes - Well, he's had Tyreek Hill, Travis Kelce, MVS, Pacheco, so he's out.

Josh Allen - before he got Diggs his #'s were a big bag of meh and still hasn't won a playoff game down 4+

The requirements listed - I cannot think of a single QB ever who would be labeled, "elite" that has had that situation.....

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Montana, Brady and Elway didn't win every single game they are down in. It just seems like that. They lost some too. It's far better to play ahead.

Did I say they won every single time? I said those guys delivered in clutch moments, did so with some lesser talent, etc. and that IMO, those are traits that make 'elite' QB's.

Lesser talent? LOL. Pre salary cap era Eddie D would field the best team in the league every year. Montana was on the absolute best team most of the years he played. Get real.

Originally posted by jonnydel:
Those requirements don't even apply to Montana or....anyone.

"No gunning game, no explosive targets" Ok.....So...Montana is out. He had Craig, Dwight Clark, John Taylor, Jerry Rice, Tom Rathman.

Tom? Well, they beat INDY in the playoffs, they ran for over 200 yards. He had Wes Welker, Julian Edelman, Randy Moss, Gronkowski and a slew of other players over the years.

Mahomes - Well, he's had Tyreek Hill, Travis Kelce, MVS, Pacheco, so he's out.

Josh Allen - before he got Diggs his #'s were a big bag of meh and still hasn't won a playoff game down 4+

The requirements listed - I cannot think of a single QB ever who would be labeled, "elite" that has had that situation.....

You are correct.

Originally posted by jonnydel:
Those requirements don't even apply to Montana or....anyone.

"No gunning game, no explosive targets" Ok.....So...Montana is out. He had Craig, Dwight Clark, John Taylor, Jerry Rice, Tom Rathman.

Tom? Well, they beat INDY in the playoffs, they ran for over 200 yards. He had Wes Welker, Julian Edelman, Randy Moss, Gronkowski and a slew of other players over the years.

Mahomes - Well, he's had Tyreek Hill, Travis Kelce, MVS, Pacheco, so he's out.

Josh Allen - before he got Diggs his #'s were a big bag of meh and still hasn't won a playoff game down 4+

The requirements listed - I cannot think of a single QB ever who would be labeled, "elite" that has had that situation.....

The only target Montana had early in his career in your list was Clark, and he was hardly an explosive player. He was most certainly made more by Montana than Clark made Montana. Go even look at Montana in KC, when Montana was broken down....JJ Birden? Tim Barnett? Willie Davis? Nothing players. Brady had none of those guys you mentioned in his early days either. Under Belichick, with Drew Bledsoe who was a very good QB, the Pats were 5-13. Bledsoe goes out, Brady comes in and they go on to win the Super Bowl. That's what true, generational talents do. They carry teams.

The ridiculous expectations of QB's conversation is