QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by RickyRoma:
Brady in his second full year threw the ball over 600 times and led the NFL in TD passes....to guys who aren't exactly household names. That is basically doing everything he can to do the heavy lifting.

As for Patriot fans wanting Bledsoe....it may not been until 2005 that fans started seeing that keeping Brady over Bledsoe was the correct decision....but it was Belichick who decided that in 2001 when Bledsoe could return to the lineup, and Belly said no. It was Belly who fully trusted him in the last minute of a Super Bowl to throw the ball instead of sitting on it and hoping for OT miracles. Those fans....were wrong.

Purdy? If he continues on his pace and improves with every game/season, then he most definitely will make up for the potential losses largely due to the contract that he may earn. If that is the case, then it is an acceptable trade-off.

Dude I watched those teams play, Brady wasn't in any kind of leading role. He made some timely passes and overall ran the offense efficiently but that 2001 Patriots team thrived on defense, they ended up shutting down the still loaded Rams in the SB.

In 2002, yeah Brady threw more touchdowns but he had one of the lowest yards per attempt of his career, he was throwing a ton of passes as the Patriots were playing from behind a lot. Their defense fell off that year and they went 9-7 and missed the playoffs so apparently Brady wasn't carrying them like you claimed.

The following season, Brady's numbers went down across the board but the defense was 1st in the NFL again and they went 14-2 and won a SB, It took Brady a few years to really get going and during that process, the Patriots supported him with tremendous coaching and an often aggressive and stifling defense. He was a key part of that team of course but he certainly wasn't carrying anything.

BC or CMC for MVP

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
BC or CMC for MVP

CMC. I like Brock to be mentioned in the conversation, but it's got to be CMC.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
BC or CMC for MVP

Both

Does anyone know what happened to the narrative that Shanahan system was so detailed and nuanced that it would take a QB 2 to 3 years to get comfortable and become an expert in it?

Now it's the most QB friendly and is plug and play.

Amazing how quickly these things can change when it doesn't fit a paradigm. 🤪🥸🤪

Originally posted by Shorteous:
Does anyone know what happened to the narrative that Shanahan system was so detailed and nuanced that it would take a QB 2 to 3 years to get comfortable and become an expert in it?

Now it's the most QB friendly and is plug and play.

Amazing how quickly these things can change when it doesn't fit a paradigm. 🤪🥸🤪

Brock is just a special player. He still has room to grow in it but he's done an excellent job thus far. I just don't think guys like jimmy has the mental capacity and calmness to execute it at a high level and read defenses fast enough. Brock obviously has that. You can see that just from his S2 testing - he's mentally on the level of some all time greats and/or the top QBs in todays game.

Originally posted by Shorteous:
Does anyone know what happened to the narrative that Shanahan system was so detailed and nuanced that it would take a QB 2 to 3 years to get comfortable and become an expert in it?

Now it's the most QB friendly and is plug and play.

Amazing how quickly these things can change when it doesn't fit a paradigm. 🤪🥸🤪

It probably does take 2-3 years to master the system, but Shanahan most likely simplifies things if he needs to for a young QB.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Shorteous:
Does anyone know what happened to the narrative that Shanahan system was so detailed and nuanced that it would take a QB 2 to 3 years to get comfortable and become an expert in it?

Now it's the most QB friendly and is plug and play.

Amazing how quickly these things can change when it doesn't fit a paradigm. 🤪🥸🤪

Brock is just a special player. He still has room to grow in it but he's done an excellent job thus far. I just don't think guys like jimmy has the mental capacity and calmness to execute it at a high level and read defenses fast enough. Brock obviously has that. You can see that just from his S2 testing - he's mentally on the level of some all time greats and/or the top QBs in todays game.

Oh I agree but you know these last few late adopting dinosaur sports analysis are all on this plug and play QB narrative but seem to have forgotten what they used to say about it.

Originally posted by Wubbie:

Originally posted by Shorteous:
Does anyone know what happened to the narrative that Shanahan system was so detailed and nuanced that it would take a QB 2 to 3 years to get comfortable and become an expert in it?

Now it's the most QB friendly and is plug and play.

Amazing how quickly these things can change when it doesn't fit a paradigm. 🤪🥸🤪

It probably does take 2-3 years to master the system, but Shanahan most likely simplifies things if he needs to for a young QB.

I'd disagree, I'd say he's made it wide open for Purdy. More than maybe all the 9er QBs before him. There doesn't seem to be any lack of trust with Purdy or any pages left out of the call sheet.

Originally posted by Shorteous:

Originally posted by Wubbie:

Originally posted by Shorteous:
Does anyone know what happened to the narrative that Shanahan system was so detailed and nuanced that it would take a QB 2 to 3 years to get comfortable and become an expert in it?

Now it's the most QB friendly and is plug and play.

Amazing how quickly these things can change when it doesn't fit a paradigm. 🤪🥸🤪

It probably does take 2-3 years to master the system, but Shanahan most likely simplifies things if he needs to for a young QB.

I'd disagree, I'd say he's made it wide open for Purdy. More than maybe all the 9er QBs before him. There doesn't seem to be any lack of trust with Purdy or any pages left out of the call sheet.

Wasn't talking about Purdy. Was thinking about Garoppolo's first season when he came in mid-season... Lance, when he had to have a running QB gameplan... and some of the other young QB's we've had to start, like Mullens and Beathard. Shanahan has shown the ability to cater an offense to his QB.

Purdy seems to have Shanahan's trust. I think the biggest evidence of that is that Shanahan is a lot more aggressive in the second half with a lead. Before, he used to run the ball, presumably because Jimmy occasionally didn't have the greatest ball security. Now, feels like Shanahan will put an opponent away and go for the kill, because Purdy hasn't shown that he'll blow a game with a dumb turnover.

Originally posted by Wubbie:

Originally posted by Shorteous:

Originally posted by Wubbie:

Originally posted by Shorteous:
Does anyone know what happened to the narrative that Shanahan system was so detailed and nuanced that it would take a QB 2 to 3 years to get comfortable and become an expert in it?

Now it's the most QB friendly and is plug and play.

Amazing how quickly these things can change when it doesn't fit a paradigm. 🤪🥸🤪

It probably does take 2-3 years to master the system, but Shanahan most likely simplifies things if he needs to for a young QB.

I'd disagree, I'd say he's made it wide open for Purdy. More than maybe all the 9er QBs before him. There doesn't seem to be any lack of trust with Purdy or any pages left out of the call sheet.

Wasn't talking about Purdy. Was thinking about Garoppolo's first season when he came in mid-season... Lance, when he had to have a running QB gameplan... and some of the other young QB's we've had to start, like Mullens and Beathard. Shanahan has shown the ability to cater an offense to his QB.

Purdy seems to have Shanahan's trust. I think the biggest evidence of that is that Shanahan is a lot more aggressive in the second half with a lead. Before, he used to run the ball, presumably because Jimmy occasionally didn't have the greatest ball security. Now, feels like Shanahan will put an opponent away and go for the kill, because Purdy hasn't shown that he'll blow a game with a dumb turnover.

Gotcha, yes I agree about him needing to scale it back for other QBs… Even one that was a 6+ year vet that become the NFL MVP the next season.

https://www.espn.com/blog/atlanta-falcons/post/_/id/18529/matt-ryan-at-times-new-offense-too-much-as-expected

So, as we all know in here, the media is a bunch of 🐑 and anyone who says Shanahan system is easy and QB friendly are just reiterating 🐑 narratives that they heard.

Originally posted by Shorteous:

Originally posted by Wubbie:

Originally posted by Shorteous:

Originally posted by Wubbie:

Originally posted by Shorteous:
Does anyone know what happened to the narrative that Shanahan system was so detailed and nuanced that it would take a QB 2 to 3 years to get comfortable and become an expert in it?

Now it's the most QB friendly and is plug and play.

Amazing how quickly these things can change when it doesn't fit a paradigm. 🤪🥸🤪

It probably does take 2-3 years to master the system, but Shanahan most likely simplifies things if he needs to for a young QB.

I'd disagree, I'd say he's made it wide open for Purdy. More than maybe all the 9er QBs before him. There doesn't seem to be any lack of trust with Purdy or any pages left out of the call sheet.

Wasn't talking about Purdy. Was thinking about Garoppolo's first season when he came in mid-season... Lance, when he had to have a running QB gameplan... and some of the other young QB's we've had to start, like Mullens and Beathard. Shanahan has shown the ability to cater an offense to his QB.

Purdy seems to have Shanahan's trust. I think the biggest evidence of that is that Shanahan is a lot more aggressive in the second half with a lead. Before, he used to run the ball, presumably because Jimmy occasionally didn't have the greatest ball security. Now, feels like Shanahan will put an opponent away and go for the kill, because Purdy hasn't shown that he'll blow a game with a dumb turnover.

Gotcha, yes I agree about him needing to scale it back for other QBs… Even one that was a 6+ year vet that become the NFL MVP the next season.

https://www.espn.com/blog/atlanta-falcons/post/_/id/18529/matt-ryan-at-times-new-offense-too-much-as-expected

So, as we all know in here, the media is a bunch of 🐑 and anyone who says Shanahan system is easy and QB friendly are just reiterating 🐑 narratives that they heard.

I'm very much of the opinion that Purdy is at the point where Shanahan doesn't have any limitations with him, but at the same time... they're still growing together as a QB/Coach tandem. Purdy still has a ton of room to grow, and Shanahan just got a new do-it-all toy in CMC midseason last year. This offense is already firing on all cylinders early in the season, scoring 30 points per game, but the players have said they've left a lot of 'meat on the bone.'

It's scary to think that the offense hasn't even hit their final form yet.

From what I gathered, Brock studied his ass off when he got to the team. Most likely to give himself an edge to not only make the team but to show that he can play when he gets his opportunity. Seemed generic, like all backups are supposed to do that, but he was actually capable of putting it all together, came into the Dolphins game, and looked like a straight up starter. He seemed like a mental grinder. What took a normal guy 2 off season to learn, Brock grind it out in a 3rd of the time. Don't take credit away from Purdy, because how often does the HC pay attention to his last pick of the draft rookie possible 3rd string qb.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by boast:
i can tell RickyRoma didnt watch Montana and the Niners back in the early 80s

Yep, that's what it seems like. Probably not as old as we are, lol. Lucky b*****d...

Yeah, us in the old geezer club.

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
From what I gathered, Brock studied his ass off when he got to the team. Most likely to give himself an edge to not only make the team but to show that he can play when he gets his opportunity. Seemed generic, like all backups are supposed to do that, but he was actually capable of putting it all together, came into the Dolphins game, and looked like a straight up starter. He seemed like a mental grinder. What took a normal guy 2 off season to learn, Brock grind it out in a 3rd of the time. Don't take credit away from Purdy, because how often does the HC pay attention to his last pick of the draft rookie possible 3rd string qb.

Some guys just have a photographic memory for stuff regarding football. I think Brock is one of those guys. Those guys exist, but they are rare. Walsh was able to recall plays back in the early '50's. Kye's QB's just (I think) didn't have that kind of memory for his system. Brock does. Kyle himself, I think, has that kind of memory also.