QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:
Sorry if this is a repost, but check this out (pay wall but worth it!):

https://theathletic.com/4226466/2023/02/24/nfl-quarterbacks-s2-cognition-test/

Purdy aced the S2 cognition test, which supposedly only the elite QB can ace!

I copy and pasted the good parts, so this isn't the entire text, but most of the good stuff......

The test he absolutely aced — and one that predicted his brilliant rookie season for the 49ers — was administered out of public view. Purdy landed in the mid 90s on something called the S2 Cognition test, a score you might consider Drew Brees-like.

Which is to say, it's elite.

The S2 isn't an intelligence test like the 50-question Wonderlic exam but rather measures how quickly and accurately athletes process information. It's like the 40-yard dash for the brain.

"The game will never be too fast for Brock, I'll say that," said Brandon Ally, a neuroscientist and cofounder of Nashville-based S2 Cognition. "I don't think he'll ever have trouble adjusting."

He couldn't give out Purdy's exact score because it's privileged information but said it was in the "mid 90s." That's about where Brees, the former Saints quarterback famous for lightning-fast decision-making, scored and where two of the top passers in the league now, the Chiefs' Patrick Mahomes and the Bills' Josh Allen, also landed. The Bengals' Joe Burrow took the test while at LSU and agreed to allow S2 to disclose the information.

Of course he did — he scored in the 97th percentile.

"We consider anything above the 80th percentile to be elite," Ally said.

For decades the NFL used the Wonderlic to measure intelligence. The questions start out easy — What's the eighth month of the year?, for example — and get progressively more difficult. Most people can't finish the 12-minute exam. While a high Wonderlic score suggests a quarterback knows how to study and will remember the playbook, it doesn't necessarily mean he'll hold up well against a zero blitz.

Brees is a good example. He got a 28 on the Wonderlic, which is very good, but not superior. His S2 score, meanwhile, was exceptional. Ally said the cognition test not only can forecast whether a quarterback will be successful in the NFL, it comes close to predicting the quarterback's career passer rating.

The company recently looked at 27 starting quarterbacks. (Some of the older veterans like Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers had entered the league before S2 began testing in 2015 and there are no scores for them; Brees took the test while already playing in the NFL.) Of that group, 13 had a career passer rating above 90. The average S2 score of those players was the 91st percentile. Those with passer ratings below 90 had much lower test results.

"Those 14 guys, the average score was in the low 60s," Ally said.

Top-tier quarterbacks have the highest average scores, followed closely by safeties. That makes sense considering safeties are known as the "quarterback of the defense" and must keep an eye on multiple moving opponents.

"The average human being can keep track of about three and a half objects at a time," Alley said. "The average safety in the NFL, it's closer to six."

The positions with the third-highest scores: linebacker and cornerback.

The highest S2 score in last year's draft class, in fact, was turned in by a cornerback, Trent McDuffie, who started 15 games for the Chiefs, including the Super Bowl.

Purdy's score wasn't too far behind. According to Ally, the 49ers quarterback did particularly well in three areas. One of them was spatial awareness, which translates in several aspects of the game, including how well a quarterback can assess a defense before the snap.

Another area in which Purdy excelled was distraction control.

"Those are the guys — and Drew Brees was one of those — who, the pocket, the world could be collapsing around them and they can just maintain that steely focus on what they're supposed to be doing," Ally said.

Finally, Purdy was especially impressive when it came to depth perception speed.

"He was in some pretty elite company," Ally said. "I mean, he was in the high 90s on that."

As for the 49ers' other young quarterback, Trey Lance?

Ally couldn't reveal the exact number but said Lance "scored well."

"He's not in the Brock Purdy range but he didn't score poorly," he said.

That's awesome and amazing information. We have the next elite top tier QB with one of the best play callers and one of the best front offices at collecting talent on the roster. Aka FINNA BE A DYNASTY! Muahahahah

can't wait for Brock to dominate the cowgirls this weekend

Thanks for sharing that article

Originally posted by Furlow:

This is just amazing 😂 #49ers pic.twitter.com/b9tj3vRjgS

— Keenan Masterson (@Keener765) October 3, 2023

lol best use of this meme so far

Originally posted by Giedi:
Some guys just have a photographic memory for stuff regarding football. I think Brock is one of those guys. Those guys exist, but they are rare. Walsh was able to recall plays back in the early '50's. Kye's QB's just (I think) didn't have that kind of memory for his system. Brock does. Kyle himself, I think, has that kind of memory also.

There was a game that Kyle called a played he hasn't called in 2 years prior to Brock getting there, Brock knew the play. Aiyuk was super surprised during the game and wasn't sure if he heard the play right, I believe they scored a touchdown on it. THATS how much Brock studied and how deep he is was into the playbook. That's awesome.

kyle expects you to know his playbook, not just the gameplan for that week - Brock has show that. I think regular fans think every player does that, but they really don't. They're human and a lot of players just do enough for the week, not go balls deep every week in everything all the time. Those are usually rare players - I'm glad that we got one of 'em at the QB position, finally.

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:
Sorry if this is a repost, but check this out (pay wall but worth it!):

https://theathletic.com/4226466/2023/02/24/nfl-quarterbacks-s2-cognition-test/

Purdy aced the S2 cognition test, which supposedly only the elite QB can ace!

I copy and pasted the good parts, so this isn't the entire text, but most of the good stuff......

The test he absolutely aced — and one that predicted his brilliant rookie season for the 49ers — was administered out of public view. Purdy landed in the mid 90s on something called the S2 Cognition test, a score you might consider Drew Brees-like.

Which is to say, it's elite.

The S2 isn't an intelligence test like the 50-question Wonderlic exam but rather measures how quickly and accurately athletes process information. It's like the 40-yard dash for the brain.

"The game will never be too fast for Brock, I'll say that," said Brandon Ally, a neuroscientist and cofounder of Nashville-based S2 Cognition. "I don't think he'll ever have trouble adjusting."

He couldn't give out Purdy's exact score because it's privileged information but said it was in the "mid 90s." That's about where Brees, the former Saints quarterback famous for lightning-fast decision-making, scored and where two of the top passers in the league now, the Chiefs' Patrick Mahomes and the Bills' Josh Allen, also landed. The Bengals' Joe Burrow took the test while at LSU and agreed to allow S2 to disclose the information.

Of course he did — he scored in the 97th percentile.

"We consider anything above the 80th percentile to be elite," Ally said.

For decades the NFL used the Wonderlic to measure intelligence. The questions start out easy — What's the eighth month of the year?, for example — and get progressively more difficult. Most people can't finish the 12-minute exam. While a high Wonderlic score suggests a quarterback knows how to study and will remember the playbook, it doesn't necessarily mean he'll hold up well against a zero blitz.

Brees is a good example. He got a 28 on the Wonderlic, which is very good, but not superior. His S2 score, meanwhile, was exceptional. Ally said the cognition test not only can forecast whether a quarterback will be successful in the NFL, it comes close to predicting the quarterback's career passer rating.

The company recently looked at 27 starting quarterbacks. (Some of the older veterans like Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers had entered the league before S2 began testing in 2015 and there are no scores for them; Brees took the test while already playing in the NFL.) Of that group, 13 had a career passer rating above 90. The average S2 score of those players was the 91st percentile. Those with passer ratings below 90 had much lower test results.

"Those 14 guys, the average score was in the low 60s," Ally said.

Top-tier quarterbacks have the highest average scores, followed closely by safeties. That makes sense considering safeties are known as the "quarterback of the defense" and must keep an eye on multiple moving opponents.

"The average human being can keep track of about three and a half objects at a time," Alley said. "The average safety in the NFL, it's closer to six."

The positions with the third-highest scores: linebacker and cornerback.

The highest S2 score in last year's draft class, in fact, was turned in by a cornerback, Trent McDuffie, who started 15 games for the Chiefs, including the Super Bowl.

Purdy's score wasn't too far behind. According to Ally, the 49ers quarterback did particularly well in three areas. One of them was spatial awareness, which translates in several aspects of the game, including how well a quarterback can assess a defense before the snap.

Another area in which Purdy excelled was distraction control.

"Those are the guys — and Drew Brees was one of those — who, the pocket, the world could be collapsing around them and they can just maintain that steely focus on what they're supposed to be doing," Ally said.

Finally, Purdy was especially impressive when it came to depth perception speed.

"He was in some pretty elite company," Ally said. "I mean, he was in the high 90s on that."

As for the 49ers' other young quarterback, Trey Lance?

Ally couldn't reveal the exact number but said Lance "scored well."

"He's not in the Brock Purdy range but he didn't score poorly," he said.

That's awesome and amazing information. We have the next elite top tier QB with one of the best play callers and one of the best front offices at collecting talent on the roster. Aka FINNA BE A DYNASTY! Muahahahah

can't wait for Brock to dominate the cowgirls this weekend

Thanks for sharing that article

Yeah I'm bumping it to make sure others get to see it. Extremely valuable info thay should make any 49er fan blush.. 😍

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Dude I watched those teams play, Brady wasn't in any kind of leading role. He made some timely passes and overall ran the offense efficiently but that 2001 Patriots team thrived on defense, they ended up shutting down the still loaded Rams in the SB.

In 2002, yeah Brady threw more touchdowns but he had one of the lowest yards per attempt of his career, he was throwing a ton of passes as the Patriots were playing from behind a lot. Their defense fell off that year and they went 9-7 and missed the playoffs so apparently Brady wasn't carrying them like you claimed.

The following season, Brady's numbers went down across the board but the defense was 1st in the NFL again and they went 14-2 and won a SB, It took Brady a few years to really get going and during that process, the Patriots supported him with tremendous coaching and an often aggressive and stifling defense. He was a key part of that team of course but he certainly wasn't carrying anything.

Dude, I watched them too. By the early 2000's, I had been watching football for 25+ years so whatever point you're trying to make there ain't gonna fly. Nobody is claiming that the Patriots weren't very good defensively, but aaagain...Belichick still put his trust in Brady when 1) Bledsoe was eligible to return and didn't, 2) Belichick depended on Brady to throw the ball in the last minute drive during the Rams SB, 3) Brady was front and center offensively the next season with 600+ throws. You can try and denounce the notion that his yards/attempt was low and they missed the playoffs and whatnot. It's irrelevant. Imagine what the Pats record had Brady NOT been on that team? He can't do every aspect a football game requires when it comes to wins/losses. If you want to play that argument, (which others have attempted) fine by me....it in no way counters my argument. I'm not saying one guy can take a trash unit to a Super Bowl. I am saying an elite QB can easily elevate his team moreso than most any other position, and guys like Brady did that.

So what if his numbers decreased in 2003? His defense returned to form, and Brady was still a dominant player...especially given his offensive talent around him. When the defense broke down in certain games, ie allowing around 30 points such as the Super Bowl, Brady stepped up.

He clearly showed signs early on, of things that were to come.

Originally posted by Wubbie:

Originally posted by Shorteous:
Does anyone know what happened to the narrative that Shanahan system was so detailed and nuanced that it would take a QB 2 to 3 years to get comfortable and become an expert in it?

Now it's the most QB friendly and is plug and play.

Amazing how quickly these things can change when it doesn't fit a paradigm. 🤪🥸🤪

It probably does take 2-3 years to master the system, but Shanahan most likely simplifies things if he needs to for a young QB.

A lot of QB's going through his system comment a lot on the voluminous playbook and all the adjustments on each play.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Some guys just have a photographic memory for stuff regarding football. I think Brock is one of those guys. Those guys exist, but they are rare. Walsh was able to recall plays back in the early '50's. Kye's QB's just (I think) didn't have that kind of memory for his system. Brock does. Kyle himself, I think, has that kind of memory also.

There was a game that Kyle called a played he hasn't called in 2 years prior to Brock getting there, Brock knew the play. Aiyuk was super surprised during the game and wasn't sure if he heard the play right, I believe they scored a touchdown on it. THATS how much Brock studied and how deep he is was into the playbook. That's awesome.

kyle expects you to know his playbook, not just the gameplan for that week - Brock has show that. I think regular fans think every player does that, but they really don't. They're human and a lot of players just do enough for the week, not go balls deep every week in everything all the time. Those are usually rare players - I'm glad that we got one of 'em at the QB position, finally.

Agree, football is as much mental as physical. For a guy like Brock, rookie, yet able to operate the playbook as well as Jimmy who's been in the system for 5+ years, is simply amazing. Kyle was/is known as a detailed person with each position with regards to a play. So for Brock to know what each person is doing on a given play, and I've heard the number of plays go past the 300 mark, then you have basically 20+ formations for each play, and 20+ adjustments per play, that's a ton of mental stuff to process.



This is just *one* play then on top of that are the adjustments and audibles.

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Dude I watched those teams play, Brady wasn't in any kind of leading role. He made some timely passes and overall ran the offense efficiently but that 2001 Patriots team thrived on defense, they ended up shutting down the still loaded Rams in the SB.

In 2002, yeah Brady threw more touchdowns but he had one of the lowest yards per attempt of his career, he was throwing a ton of passes as the Patriots were playing from behind a lot. Their defense fell off that year and they went 9-7 and missed the playoffs so apparently Brady wasn't carrying them like you claimed.

The following season, Brady's numbers went down across the board but the defense was 1st in the NFL again and they went 14-2 and won a SB, It took Brady a few years to really get going and during that process, the Patriots supported him with tremendous coaching and an often aggressive and stifling defense. He was a key part of that team of course but he certainly wasn't carrying anything.

Dude, I watched them too. By the early 2000's, I had been watching football for 25+ years so whatever point you're trying to make there ain't gonna fly. Nobody is claiming that the Patriots weren't very good defensively, but aaagain...Belichick still put his trust in Brady when 1) Bledsoe was eligible to return and didn't, 2) Belichick depended on Brady to throw the ball in the last minute drive during the Rams SB, 3) Brady was front and center offensively the next season with 600+ throws. You can try and denounce the notion that his yards/attempt was low and they missed the playoffs and whatnot. It's irrelevant. Imagine what the Pats record had Brady NOT been on that team? He can't do every aspect a football game requires when it comes to wins/losses. If you want to play that argument, (which others have attempted) fine by me....it in no way counters my argument. I'm not saying one guy can take a trash unit to a Super Bowl. I am saying an elite QB can easily elevate his team moreso than most any other position, and guys like Brady did that.

So what if his numbers decreased in 2003? His defense returned to form, and Brady was still a dominant player...especially given his offensive talent around him. When the defense broke down in certain games, ie allowing around 30 points such as the Super Bowl, Brady stepped up.

He clearly showed signs early on, of things that were to come.

Save the mental gymnastics friend, there's folks old enough to have seen it all play out. Folks were treating Brady similar to Purdy up until he finally broke out in 2007 and won his first MVP. The year they signed Moss to go with the offensive stars they'd accumulated.

Originally posted by Wubbie:

Originally posted by Shorteous:

Originally posted by Wubbie:

Originally posted by Shorteous:

Originally posted by Wubbie:

Originally posted by Shorteous:
Does anyone know what happened to the narrative that Shanahan system was so detailed and nuanced that it would take a QB 2 to 3 years to get comfortable and become an expert in it?

Now it's the most QB friendly and is plug and play.

Amazing how quickly these things can change when it doesn't fit a paradigm. 🤪🥸🤪

It probably does take 2-3 years to master the system, but Shanahan most likely simplifies things if he needs to for a young QB.

I'd disagree, I'd say he's made it wide open for Purdy. More than maybe all the 9er QBs before him. There doesn't seem to be any lack of trust with Purdy or any pages left out of the call sheet.

Wasn't talking about Purdy. Was thinking about Garoppolo's first season when he came in mid-season... Lance, when he had to have a running QB gameplan... and some of the other young QB's we've had to start, like Mullens and Beathard. Shanahan has shown the ability to cater an offense to his QB.

Purdy seems to have Shanahan's trust. I think the biggest evidence of that is that Shanahan is a lot more aggressive in the second half with a lead. Before, he used to run the ball, presumably because Jimmy occasionally didn't have the greatest ball security. Now, feels like Shanahan will put an opponent away and go for the kill, because Purdy hasn't shown that he'll blow a game with a dumb turnover.

Gotcha, yes I agree about him needing to scale it back for other QBs… Even one that was a 6+ year vet that become the NFL MVP the next season.

https://www.espn.com/blog/atlanta-falcons/post/_/id/18529/matt-ryan-at-times-new-offense-too-much-as-expected

So, as we all know in here, the media is a bunch of 🐑 and anyone who says Shanahan system is easy and QB friendly are just reiterating 🐑 narratives that they heard.

I'm very much of the opinion that Purdy is at the point where Shanahan doesn't have any limitations with him, but at the same time... they're still growing together as a QB/Coach tandem. Purdy still has a ton of room to grow, and Shanahan just got a new do-it-all toy in CMC midseason last year. This offense is already firing on all cylinders early in the season, scoring 30 points per game, but the players have said they've left a lot of 'meat on the bone.'

It's scary to think that the offense hasn't even hit their final form yet.

Agree, I think the offense can get better. Especially if the OLine gets better and gives Purdy some time in the pocket. Those pass route trees and their combinations are infinite, same with the zone and gap blocking, it's a lot of blocking combinations there that can be used against different fronts and defenses.

At some point, Purdy will know the offense as well as Kyle and be that coach on the field.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Save the mental gymnastics friend, there's folks old enough to have seen it all play out. Folks were treating Brady similar to Purdy up until he finally broke out in 2007 and won his first MVP. The year they signed Moss to go with the offensive stars they'd accumulated.

Who cares what 'folks were saying?' They were originally wrong, so it's completely irrelevant.

Originally posted by RickyRoma:
Dude, I watched them too. By the early 2000's, I had been watching football for 25+ years so whatever point you're trying to make there ain't gonna fly. Nobody is claiming that the Patriots weren't very good defensively, but aaagain...Belichick still put his trust in Brady when 1) Bledsoe was eligible to return and didn't, 2) Belichick depended on Brady to throw the ball in the last minute drive during the Rams SB, 3) Brady was front and center offensively the next season with 600+ throws. You can try and denounce the notion that his yards/attempt was low and they missed the playoffs and whatnot. It's irrelevant. Imagine what the Pats record had Brady NOT been on that team? He can't do every aspect a football game requires when it comes to wins/losses. If you want to play that argument, (which others have attempted) fine by me....it in no way counters my argument. I'm not saying one guy can take a trash unit to a Super Bowl. I am saying an elite QB can easily elevate his team moreso than most any other position, and guys like Purdy do that.

So what if his numbers decreased in 2003? His defense returned to form, and Brady was still a dominant player...especially given his offensive talent around him. When the defense broke down in certain games, ie allowing around 30 points such as the Super Bowl, Brady stepped up.

He clearly showed signs early on, of things that were to come.

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Dude I watched those teams play, Brady wasn't in any kind of leading role. He made some timely passes and overall ran the offense efficiently but that 2001 Patriots team thrived on defense, they ended up shutting down the still loaded Rams in the SB.

In 2002, yeah Brady threw more touchdowns but he had one of the lowest yards per attempt of his career, he was throwing a ton of passes as the Patriots were playing from behind a lot. Their defense fell off that year and they went 9-7 and missed the playoffs so apparently Brady wasn't carrying them like you claimed.

The following season, Brady's numbers went down across the board but the defense was 1st in the NFL again and they went 14-2 and won a SB, It took Brady a few years to really get going and during that process, the Patriots supported him with tremendous coaching and an often aggressive and stifling defense. He was a key part of that team of course but he certainly wasn't carrying anything.

Dude, I watched them too. By the early 2000's, I had been watching football for 25+ years so whatever point you're trying to make there ain't gonna fly. Nobody is claiming that the Patriots weren't very good defensively, but aaagain...Belichick still put his trust in Brady when 1) Bledsoe was eligible to return and didn't, 2) Belichick depended on Brady to throw the ball in the last minute drive during the Rams SB, 3) Brady was front and center offensively the next season with 600+ throws. You can try and denounce the notion that his yards/attempt was low and they missed the playoffs and whatnot. It's irrelevant. Imagine what the Pats record had Brady NOT been on that team? He can't do every aspect a football game requires when it comes to wins/losses. If you want to play that argument, (which others have attempted) fine by me....it in no way counters my argument. I'm not saying one guy can take a trash unit to a Super Bowl. I am saying an elite QB can easily elevate his team moreso than most any other position, and guys like Brady did that.

So what if his numbers decreased in 2003? His defense returned to form, and Brady was still a dominant player...especially given his offensive talent around him. When the defense broke down in certain games, ie allowing around 30 points such as the Super Bowl, Brady stepped up.

He clearly showed signs early on, of things that were to come.

Brady has given interviews saying BB told them to run out the clock and go to OT tied at 17

Brady said f**k it lets win and came out throwing

The drive started at their own 17 yard line with 1:21 left and no timeouts

BB at that time was 100% a conservative defensive minded HC. I believe bradys story

That defiance and winning drive is the start of the
legend at QB Brady became. And he did NOT have any believers in his ability back then

Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:
Sorry if this is a repost, but check this out (pay wall but worth it!):

https://theathletic.com/4226466/2023/02/24/nfl-quarterbacks-s2-cognition-test/

Purdy aced the S2 cognition test, which supposedly only the elite QB can ace!

I copy and pasted the good parts, so this isn't the entire text, but most of the good stuff......

The test he absolutely aced — and one that predicted his brilliant rookie season for the 49ers — was administered out of public view. Purdy landed in the mid 90s on something called the S2 Cognition test, a score you might consider Drew Brees-like.

Which is to say, it's elite.

The S2 isn't an intelligence test like the 50-question Wonderlic exam but rather measures how quickly and accurately athletes process information. It's like the 40-yard dash for the brain.

"The game will never be too fast for Brock, I'll say that," said Brandon Ally, a neuroscientist and cofounder of Nashville-based S2 Cognition. "I don't think he'll ever have trouble adjusting."

He couldn't give out Purdy's exact score because it's privileged information but said it was in the "mid 90s." That's about where Brees, the former Saints quarterback famous for lightning-fast decision-making, scored and where two of the top passers in the league now, the Chiefs' Patrick Mahomes and the Bills' Josh Allen, also landed. The Bengals' Joe Burrow took the test while at LSU and agreed to allow S2 to disclose the information.

Of course he did — he scored in the 97th percentile.

"We consider anything above the 80th percentile to be elite," Ally said.

For decades the NFL used the Wonderlic to measure intelligence. The questions start out easy — What's the eighth month of the year?, for example — and get progressively more difficult. Most people can't finish the 12-minute exam. While a high Wonderlic score suggests a quarterback knows how to study and will remember the playbook, it doesn't necessarily mean he'll hold up well against a zero blitz.

Brees is a good example. He got a 28 on the Wonderlic, which is very good, but not superior. His S2 score, meanwhile, was exceptional. Ally said the cognition test not only can forecast whether a quarterback will be successful in the NFL, it comes close to predicting the quarterback's career passer rating.

The company recently looked at 27 starting quarterbacks. (Some of the older veterans like Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers had entered the league before S2 began testing in 2015 and there are no scores for them; Brees took the test while already playing in the NFL.) Of that group, 13 had a career passer rating above 90. The average S2 score of those players was the 91st percentile. Those with passer ratings below 90 had much lower test results.

"Those 14 guys, the average score was in the low 60s," Ally said.

Top-tier quarterbacks have the highest average scores, followed closely by safeties. That makes sense considering safeties are known as the "quarterback of the defense" and must keep an eye on multiple moving opponents.

"The average human being can keep track of about three and a half objects at a time," Alley said. "The average safety in the NFL, it's closer to six."

The positions with the third-highest scores: linebacker and cornerback.

The highest S2 score in last year's draft class, in fact, was turned in by a cornerback, Trent McDuffie, who started 15 games for the Chiefs, including the Super Bowl.

Purdy's score wasn't too far behind. According to Ally, the 49ers quarterback did particularly well in three areas. One of them was spatial awareness, which translates in several aspects of the game, including how well a quarterback can assess a defense before the snap.

Another area in which Purdy excelled was distraction control.

"Those are the guys — and Drew Brees was one of those — who, the pocket, the world could be collapsing around them and they can just maintain that steely focus on what they're supposed to be doing," Ally said.

Finally, Purdy was especially impressive when it came to depth perception speed.

"He was in some pretty elite company," Ally said. "I mean, he was in the high 90s on that."

As for the 49ers' other young quarterback, Trey Lance?

Ally couldn't reveal the exact number but said Lance "scored well."

"He's not in the Brock Purdy range but he didn't score poorly," he said.

Justin Fields also supposedly aced it. CJ Stroud apparently bombed it but is killing it this far as a rookie. Test is way overhyped.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:
Sorry if this is a repost, but check this out (pay wall but worth it!):

https://theathletic.com/4226466/2023/02/24/nfl-quarterbacks-s2-cognition-test/

Purdy aced the S2 cognition test, which supposedly only the elite QB can ace!

I copy and pasted the good parts, so this isn't the entire text, but most of the good stuff......

The test he absolutely aced — and one that predicted his brilliant rookie season for the 49ers — was administered out of public view. Purdy landed in the mid 90s on something called the S2 Cognition test, a score you might consider Drew Brees-like.

Which is to say, it's elite.

The S2 isn't an intelligence test like the 50-question Wonderlic exam but rather measures how quickly and accurately athletes process information. It's like the 40-yard dash for the brain.

"The game will never be too fast for Brock, I'll say that," said Brandon Ally, a neuroscientist and cofounder of Nashville-based S2 Cognition. "I don't think he'll ever have trouble adjusting."

He couldn't give out Purdy's exact score because it's privileged information but said it was in the "mid 90s." That's about where Brees, the former Saints quarterback famous for lightning-fast decision-making, scored and where two of the top passers in the league now, the Chiefs' Patrick Mahomes and the Bills' Josh Allen, also landed. The Bengals' Joe Burrow took the test while at LSU and agreed to allow S2 to disclose the information.

Of course he did — he scored in the 97th percentile.

"We consider anything above the 80th percentile to be elite," Ally said.

For decades the NFL used the Wonderlic to measure intelligence. The questions start out easy — What's the eighth month of the year?, for example — and get progressively more difficult. Most people can't finish the 12-minute exam. While a high Wonderlic score suggests a quarterback knows how to study and will remember the playbook, it doesn't necessarily mean he'll hold up well against a zero blitz.

Brees is a good example. He got a 28 on the Wonderlic, which is very good, but not superior. His S2 score, meanwhile, was exceptional. Ally said the cognition test not only can forecast whether a quarterback will be successful in the NFL, it comes close to predicting the quarterback's career passer rating.

The company recently looked at 27 starting quarterbacks. (Some of the older veterans like Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers had entered the league before S2 began testing in 2015 and there are no scores for them; Brees took the test while already playing in the NFL.) Of that group, 13 had a career passer rating above 90. The average S2 score of those players was the 91st percentile. Those with passer ratings below 90 had much lower test results.

"Those 14 guys, the average score was in the low 60s," Ally said.

Top-tier quarterbacks have the highest average scores, followed closely by safeties. That makes sense considering safeties are known as the "quarterback of the defense" and must keep an eye on multiple moving opponents.

"The average human being can keep track of about three and a half objects at a time," Alley said. "The average safety in the NFL, it's closer to six."

The positions with the third-highest scores: linebacker and cornerback.

The highest S2 score in last year's draft class, in fact, was turned in by a cornerback, Trent McDuffie, who started 15 games for the Chiefs, including the Super Bowl.

Purdy's score wasn't too far behind. According to Ally, the 49ers quarterback did particularly well in three areas. One of them was spatial awareness, which translates in several aspects of the game, including how well a quarterback can assess a defense before the snap.

Another area in which Purdy excelled was distraction control.

"Those are the guys — and Drew Brees was one of those — who, the pocket, the world could be collapsing around them and they can just maintain that steely focus on what they're supposed to be doing," Ally said.

Finally, Purdy was especially impressive when it came to depth perception speed.

"He was in some pretty elite company," Ally said. "I mean, he was in the high 90s on that."

As for the 49ers' other young quarterback, Trey Lance?

Ally couldn't reveal the exact number but said Lance "scored well."

"He's not in the Brock Purdy range but he didn't score poorly," he said.

That's awesome and amazing information. We have the next elite top tier QB with one of the best play callers and one of the best front offices at collecting talent on the roster. Aka FINNA BE A DYNASTY! Muahahahah

can't wait for Brock to dominate the cowgirls this weekend

Thanks for sharing that article

Yeah I'm bumping it to make sure others get to see it. Extremely valuable info thay should make any 49er fan blush.. 😍

Thx. I was a little hesitant to anoint him this summer but game 1 lI really noticed his processing speed on the field and even made a comment that that alone will make him a successful QB. He has a fantastic grasp of where every receiver should be and where defenses are. He is very surgical in that manner. This even goes for some of his movements in and around the pocket though I still think he needs some learning here(he's a sophomore basically a rookie that's not a dig).

You guys are making TB cry in a Brock Purdy thread.