QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Cg9erSF:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by Giedi:
He's basically skeptical of Brock. Saying, basically - the team is carrying him, and he's a good QB, but nothing special. That's how I'm reading his posts.

Then you have a reading disorder if that's your conclusion.

So, is he a special QB or not?

Brock is special and I think he will show it Sunday night. We will see.

Agree 💯%, he's a generational talent. Most people who've watched Joe and Steve know it. His accuracy, timing and touch is unreal. I haven't seen that since Steve and Joe. As you said, Sunday night will go a long way to shut up his skeptics.

Originally posted by NinerTy:
The only problem with Brock is...he was drafted last in the NFL 2022 draft. THAT'S IT!!! Just because there weren't a bunch of "experts" touting his talents and talking about what he might do in the NFL, doesn't mean he can't be a successful player. Stop all the worry, fears and doom and gloom. If you can't see that he is a top tier QB, I think some Braille might help you

Agree, some fans need in addition to the Braille, a cane and a hearing aid.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Cg9erSF:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by Giedi:
He's basically skeptical of Brock. Saying, basically - the team is carrying him, and he's a good QB, but nothing special. That's how I'm reading his posts.

Then you have a reading disorder if that's your conclusion.

So, is he a special QB or not?

Brock is special and I think he will show it Sunday night. We will see.

Agree 💯%, he's a generational talent. Most people who've watched Joe and Steve know it. His accuracy, timing and touch is unreal. I haven't seen that since Steve and Joe. As you said, Sunday night will go a long way to shut up his skeptics.

What if Lance never got injured? Are we still watching him develop and Brock is just Mr. Irrelevant serving as QB2? Glad I don't live in that alternate universe.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Cg9erSF:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by Giedi:
He's basically skeptical of Brock. Saying, basically - the team is carrying him, and he's a good QB, but nothing special. That's how I'm reading his posts.

Then you have a reading disorder if that's your conclusion.

So, is he a special QB or not?

Brock is special and I think he will show it Sunday night. We will see.

Agree 💯%, he's a generational talent. Most people who've watched Joe and Steve know it. His accuracy, timing and touch is unreal. I haven't seen that since Steve and Joe. As you said, Sunday night will go a long way to shut up his skeptics.

What if Lance never got injured? Are we still watching him develop and Brock is just Mr. Irrelevant serving as QB2? Glad I don't live in that alternate universe.

Brock still may have been pushing Trey this summer and perhaps even took his job from him anyway.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:
Sorry if this is a repost, but check this out (pay wall but worth it!):

https://theathletic.com/4226466/2023/02/24/nfl-quarterbacks-s2-cognition-test/

Purdy aced the S2 cognition test, which supposedly only the elite QB can ace!

I copy and pasted the good parts, so this isn't the entire text, but most of the good stuff......

The test he absolutely aced — and one that predicted his brilliant rookie season for the 49ers — was administered out of public view. Purdy landed in the mid 90s on something called the S2 Cognition test, a score you might consider Drew Brees-like.

Which is to say, it's elite.

The S2 isn't an intelligence test like the 50-question Wonderlic exam but rather measures how quickly and accurately athletes process information. It's like the 40-yard dash for the brain.

"The game will never be too fast for Brock, I'll say that," said Brandon Ally, a neuroscientist and cofounder of Nashville-based S2 Cognition. "I don't think he'll ever have trouble adjusting."

He couldn't give out Purdy's exact score because it's privileged information but said it was in the "mid 90s." That's about where Brees, the former Saints quarterback famous for lightning-fast decision-making, scored and where two of the top passers in the league now, the Chiefs' Patrick Mahomes and the Bills' Josh Allen, also landed. The Bengals' Joe Burrow took the test while at LSU and agreed to allow S2 to disclose the information.

Of course he did — he scored in the 97th percentile.

"We consider anything above the 80th percentile to be elite," Ally said.

For decades the NFL used the Wonderlic to measure intelligence. The questions start out easy — What's the eighth month of the year?, for example — and get progressively more difficult. Most people can't finish the 12-minute exam. While a high Wonderlic score suggests a quarterback knows how to study and will remember the playbook, it doesn't necessarily mean he'll hold up well against a zero blitz.

Brees is a good example. He got a 28 on the Wonderlic, which is very good, but not superior. His S2 score, meanwhile, was exceptional. Ally said the cognition test not only can forecast whether a quarterback will be successful in the NFL, it comes close to predicting the quarterback's career passer rating.

The company recently looked at 27 starting quarterbacks. (Some of the older veterans like Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers had entered the league before S2 began testing in 2015 and there are no scores for them; Brees took the test while already playing in the NFL.) Of that group, 13 had a career passer rating above 90. The average S2 score of those players was the 91st percentile. Those with passer ratings below 90 had much lower test results.

"Those 14 guys, the average score was in the low 60s," Ally said.

Top-tier quarterbacks have the highest average scores, followed closely by safeties. That makes sense considering safeties are known as the "quarterback of the defense" and must keep an eye on multiple moving opponents.

"The average human being can keep track of about three and a half objects at a time," Alley said. "The average safety in the NFL, it's closer to six."

The positions with the third-highest scores: linebacker and cornerback.

The highest S2 score in last year's draft class, in fact, was turned in by a cornerback, Trent McDuffie, who started 15 games for the Chiefs, including the Super Bowl.

Purdy's score wasn't too far behind. According to Ally, the 49ers quarterback did particularly well in three areas. One of them was spatial awareness, which translates in several aspects of the game, including how well a quarterback can assess a defense before the snap.

Another area in which Purdy excelled was distraction control.

"Those are the guys — and Drew Brees was one of those — who, the pocket, the world could be collapsing around them and they can just maintain that steely focus on what they're supposed to be doing," Ally said.

Finally, Purdy was especially impressive when it came to depth perception speed.

"He was in some pretty elite company," Ally said. "I mean, he was in the high 90s on that."

As for the 49ers' other young quarterback, Trey Lance?

Ally couldn't reveal the exact number but said Lance "scored well."

"He's not in the Brock Purdy range but he didn't score poorly," he said.

Justin Fields also supposedly aced it. CJ Stroud apparently bombed it but is killing it this far as a rookie. Test is way overhyped.

I think it's a very valuable set of data but I don't believe any one test is end all be all. So I don't consider it overhyped but I think it's very telling of a players potential in aspects of playing the position, there are still many other variables that help decide a QBs potential.

It's an interesting test for sure. You have to take it in front of a computer screen and do certain things with your peripheral vision (for example). If I was a scout or coach, it's another test that helps me evaluate a QB, but like any test -- you have to look also at the QB's character, determination, habits, beliefs, and the tape. Make the best guess you can and fire away the draft pick. The draft is still a big lottery, in my opinion, no matter how educated the guess is.

CJ Stroud looks legit (at least from the 2023 highlight reels). Demeco - I think - got lucky like Kyle did in picking Stroud. Saleh got unlucky with Zach. McDaniel already had Tua. Lafleaur has Love, so far meh. McVay has an aging super star in Stafford. It would be interesting in the future if Kyle faces off with Demeco in the super bowl. That would be a Shanahan Super Bowl, in a sense.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Cg9erSF:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by Giedi:
He's basically skeptical of Brock. Saying, basically - the team is carrying him, and he's a good QB, but nothing special. That's how I'm reading his posts.

Then you have a reading disorder if that's your conclusion.

So, is he a special QB or not?

Brock is special and I think he will show it Sunday night. We will see.

Agree 💯%, he's a generational talent. Most people who've watched Joe and Steve know it. His accuracy, timing and touch is unreal. I haven't seen that since Steve and Joe. As you said, Sunday night will go a long way to shut up his skeptics.

What if Lance never got injured? Are we still watching him develop and Brock is just Mr. Irrelevant serving as QB2? Glad I don't live in that alternate universe.

Brock still may have been pushing Trey this summer and perhaps even took his job from him anyway.

Benching a healthy third overall pick to play a last overall pick. Some would think Kyle went insane. At least until Brock showed everyone what he was capable of.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Cg9erSF:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by Giedi:
He's basically skeptical of Brock. Saying, basically - the team is carrying him, and he's a good QB, but nothing special. That's how I'm reading his posts.

Then you have a reading disorder if that's your conclusion.

So, is he a special QB or not?

Brock is special and I think he will show it Sunday night. We will see.

Agree 💯%, he's a generational talent. Most people who've watched Joe and Steve know it. His accuracy, timing and touch is unreal. I haven't seen that since Steve and Joe. As you said, Sunday night will go a long way to shut up his skeptics.

What if Lance never got injured? Are we still watching him develop and Brock is just Mr. Irrelevant serving as QB2? Glad I don't live in that alternate universe.

AGree 💯% that I'm in *this* particular universe with Brock as starter. Having said that, I think - the way Lance improved in the Texan's game and in his 2nd preseason, Lance would have been a credible starter and would have improved greatly to have challenged our current Brock for QB1. But even if Trey never got injured, Kyle can see Brock play as QB2 and would have given Brock a legitimate chance to unseat Trey. I'm fully confident if Kyle gave Brock a legitimate shot to unseat Trey, Brock would have done so.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Cg9erSF:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by Giedi:
He's basically skeptical of Brock. Saying, basically - the team is carrying him, and he's a good QB, but nothing special. That's how I'm reading his posts.

Then you have a reading disorder if that's your conclusion.

So, is he a special QB or not?

Brock is special and I think he will show it Sunday night. We will see.

Agree 💯%, he's a generational talent. Most people who've watched Joe and Steve know it. His accuracy, timing and touch is unreal. I haven't seen that since Steve and Joe. As you said, Sunday night will go a long way to shut up his skeptics.

What if Lance never got injured? Are we still watching him develop and Brock is just Mr. Irrelevant serving as QB2? Glad I don't live in that alternate universe.

Brock still may have been pushing Trey this summer and perhaps even took his job from him anyway.

Benching a healthy third overall pick to play a last overall pick. Some would think Kyle went insane. At least until Brock showed everyone what he was capable of.

But I thought the cream always rose to the top?

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Cg9erSF:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by Giedi:
He's basically skeptical of Brock. Saying, basically - the team is carrying him, and he's a good QB, but nothing special. That's how I'm reading his posts.

Then you have a reading disorder if that's your conclusion.

So, is he a special QB or not?

Brock is special and I think he will show it Sunday night. We will see.

Agree 💯%, he's a generational talent. Most people who've watched Joe and Steve know it. His accuracy, timing and touch is unreal. I haven't seen that since Steve and Joe. As you said, Sunday night will go a long way to shut up his skeptics.

What if Lance never got injured? Are we still watching him develop and Brock is just Mr. Irrelevant serving as QB2? Glad I don't live in that alternate universe.

Trey would have been benched last season at some point. The interesting question is when Jimmy G get injured whether Brock would have gotten a chance or Trey.

Anyway, there is no way Trey would be the undisputed starter heading the offseason season.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Cg9erSF:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by Giedi:
He's basically skeptical of Brock. Saying, basically - the team is carrying him, and he's a good QB, but nothing special. That's how I'm reading his posts.

Then you have a reading disorder if that's your conclusion.

So, is he a special QB or not?

Brock is special and I think he will show it Sunday night. We will see.

Agree 💯%, he's a generational talent. Most people who've watched Joe and Steve know it. His accuracy, timing and touch is unreal. I haven't seen that since Steve and Joe. As you said, Sunday night will go a long way to shut up his skeptics.

What if Lance never got injured? Are we still watching him develop and Brock is just Mr. Irrelevant serving as QB2? Glad I don't live in that alternate universe.

Brock still may have been pushing Trey this summer and perhaps even took his job from him anyway.

Benching a healthy third overall pick to play a last overall pick. Some would think Kyle went insane. At least until Brock showed everyone what he was capable of.

A) It's doubtful that Trey would have stayed healthy with the way Kyle felt he had to call plays for him to be successful (15+ designed QB runs).
B) I can't imagine Trey would be playing well enough to be winning every game the way Purdy has been, and likely because of poor play, Purdy would have gotten a chance at some point.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Cg9erSF:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by Giedi:
He's basically skeptical of Brock. Saying, basically - the team is carrying him, and he's a good QB, but nothing special. That's how I'm reading his posts.

Then you have a reading disorder if that's your conclusion.

So, is he a special QB or not?

Brock is special and I think he will show it Sunday night. We will see.

Agree 💯%, he's a generational talent. Most people who've watched Joe and Steve know it. His accuracy, timing and touch is unreal. I haven't seen that since Steve and Joe. As you said, Sunday night will go a long way to shut up his skeptics.

I haven't seen it since a young Brady 😏. Now if he can just accomplish 1/7 of what Brady did, I'll be a super happy camper.

In snooping around the internet the past couple of days looking for other aspects of the Brock Purdy story that haven't been covered, this popped up on YouTube suggestions. The interview was given just before the Super Bowl last February while Purdy was waiting for the decision on the surgery. In general, it is about what Kyle Shanahan has called, his "foundation."

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Cg9erSF:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by Giedi:
He's basically skeptical of Brock. Saying, basically - the team is carrying him, and he's a good QB, but nothing special. That's how I'm reading his posts.

Then you have a reading disorder if that's your conclusion.

So, is he a special QB or not?

Brock is special and I think he will show it Sunday night. We will see.

Agree 💯%, he's a generational talent. Most people who've watched Joe and Steve know it. His accuracy, timing and touch is unreal. I haven't seen that since Steve and Joe. As you said, Sunday night will go a long way to shut up his skeptics.

What if Lance never got injured? Are we still watching him develop and Brock is just Mr. Irrelevant serving as QB2? Glad I don't live in that alternate universe.

Brock still may have been pushing Trey this summer and perhaps even took his job from him anyway.

Benching a healthy third overall pick to play a last overall pick. Some would think Kyle went insane. At least until Brock showed everyone what he was capable of.

But I thought the cream always rose to the top?

From later comments about Purdy in training camp during his rookie season, it is clear the cream was already on the rise. Injuries only hastened the inevitable.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Cg9erSF:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by Giedi:
He's basically skeptical of Brock. Saying, basically - the team is carrying him, and he's a good QB, but nothing special. That's how I'm reading his posts.

Then you have a reading disorder if that's your conclusion.

So, is he a special QB or not?

Brock is special and I think he will show it Sunday night. We will see.

Agree 💯%, he's a generational talent. Most people who've watched Joe and Steve know it. His accuracy, timing and touch is unreal. I haven't seen that since Steve and Joe. As you said, Sunday night will go a long way to shut up his skeptics.

What if Lance never got injured? Are we still watching him develop and Brock is just Mr. Irrelevant serving as QB2? Glad I don't live in that alternate universe.

Brock still may have been pushing Trey this summer and perhaps even took his job from him anyway.

Benching a healthy third overall pick to play a last overall pick. Some would think Kyle went insane. At least until Brock showed everyone what he was capable of.

He 100% would of switched QBs. He probably thinks his dad would still be coaching in Washington if they had given the full time job to Cousins in Washington.

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Cg9erSF:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by Giedi:
He's basically skeptical of Brock. Saying, basically - the team is carrying him, and he's a good QB, but nothing special. That's how I'm reading his posts.

Then you have a reading disorder if that's your conclusion.

So, is he a special QB or not?

Brock is special and I think he will show it Sunday night. We will see.

Agree 💯%, he's a generational talent. Most people who've watched Joe and Steve know it. His accuracy, timing and touch is unreal. I haven't seen that since Steve and Joe. As you said, Sunday night will go a long way to shut up his skeptics.

What if Lance never got injured? Are we still watching him develop and Brock is just Mr. Irrelevant serving as QB2? Glad I don't live in that alternate universe.

Trey would have been benched last season at some point. The interesting question is when Jimmy G get injured whether Brock would have gotten a chance or Trey.

Anyway, there is no way Trey would be the undisputed starter heading the offseason season.

This I agree with. We would of looked horrible on offense and racked up losses. Kyle would of had to make a decision to go back to jimmy to try and salvage the season or roll into the that off season with a bad record and Trey still the starter.

Regardless, he showed enough that it concerned kyle enough for him to want other options. Brock just gave him the easy answer - we most likely would of made a big trade for cousins or darnold would be the starter right now.

Lance was hurt going into last season, it isn't like he would of somehow turned it around. Being hurt and lack of confidence/experience would of just compounded, especially as the loses racked up.

oh well! We are in as good as a spot as anyone could ask for, thank god.