QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Here we go again.

Steven Ruiz of The Ringer says the 49ers can't win a Super Bowl with Brock Purdy

🎥 @ringer pic.twitter.com/QmGfMvrwO2

— KNBR (@KNBR) October 5, 2023

I don't get why some are saying that pass to Aiyuk was under thrown. Aiyuk never slowed down for the pass and had to reach for it with his finger tips. It looked like Purdy led him to an open area where the DB had his back to him and was running full sprint to catch up.

maybe I need to see the play again? Does anyone have All-22 of that particular play?

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by scooterp10:
Trade Brock and a 1st for Caleb Williams?

Can't see either party (us and the potential #1 pick) ever agreeing to such a trade.

We have what seems like a perfect system fit at an absolute bottom barrel price, and Brock's league wide worth probably isn't enough to get up to the 1 spot for another team (in conjunction with 1 likely very low 1st rounder)

It's an interesting question though.

To me, I would consider it. As crazy as it sounds, I don't think I've ever seen a prospect as impressive as Caleb Williams and I was very high on Patrick Mahomes coming out.

Wow
lol
Have people not learned anything..

this
eff Williams
were supposed to trade away a real shot at a SB now for that?

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
I guess you'd have to define improving in the immediate short term. In the immediate short term Jimmy lost to the trash ass broncos and ran out of the back of the end zone. 🤣🤣🤣

They did improve after that game, then improved more when Purdy's number was called.

The immediate short term meaning that particular season obviously. They replaced their starting QB with a better player. This is as basic as it gets but somehow against Ring's latest flavor of the day argument.

I don't know how many games he's referring to, but to me immediate would be the next game or 2. We only get 17 per year, but to say things didn't improve under Jimmy overall is disingenuous.

I only asked for something to back up the claim that the team improved in the "immediate short term" as a result of the QB change, meaning obviously the first handful of games after the change and before CMC was integrated into the offense. I don't see this demonstrable immediate improvement. I'm thankful for CMC (and later, Purdy) for saving us from a .500 or below season last year.

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Here we go again.

Steven Ruiz of The Ringer says the 49ers can't win a Super Bowl with Brock Purdy

🎥 @ringer pic.twitter.com/QmGfMvrwO2

— KNBR (@KNBR) October 5, 2023

I don't get why some are saying that pass to Aiyuk was under thrown. Aiyuk never slowed down for the pass and had to reach for it with his finger tips. It looked like Purdy led him to an open area where the DB had his back to him and was running full sprint to catch up.

maybe I need to see the play again? Does anyone have All-22 of that particular play?

Yeah, Jonnydel breaks it down in his film study. I think there's a thread with it on the forum page (edit: here... https://youtu.be/58J5uOc_FWA). Purdy also is quoted as saying he was putting it right where he wanted, where only Aiyuk could make the play. The folks who have called it bad seem to think the DB coming over from the far side could have made an easy pick if he had looked for the ball. But that line of thinking is flawed because A)he had his back to the LOS and B)he had his back to the LOS. Purdy threw the pass against the DBs momentum. I really don't care whether it was a good or bad pass, just whether it worked out or not. There's 19 other completions that were right on point, so I'm inclined to believe Purdy put the ball where he wanted and thought BA could make a play out of it if he would adjust to the open area.

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Here we go again.

Steven Ruiz of The Ringer says the 49ers can't win a Super Bowl with Brock Purdy

🎥 @ringer pic.twitter.com/QmGfMvrwO2

— KNBR (@KNBR) October 5, 2023

I don't get why some are saying that pass to Aiyuk was under thrown. Aiyuk never slowed down for the pass and had to reach for it with his finger tips. It looked like Purdy led him to an open area where the DB had his back to him and was running full sprint to catch up.

maybe I need to see the play again? Does anyone have All-22 of that particular play?

Yeah, Jonnydel breaks it down in his film study. I think there's a thread with it on the forum page (edit: here... https://youtu.be/58J5uOc_FWA). Purdy also is quoted as saying he was putting it right where he wanted, where only Aiyuk could make the play. The folks who have called it bad seem to think the DB coming over from the far side could have made an easy pick if he had looked for the ball. But that line of thinking is flawed because A)he had his back to the LOS and B)he had his back to the LOS. Purdy threw the pass against the DBs momentum. I really don't care whether it was a good or bad pass, just whether it worked out or not. There's 19 other completions that were right on point, so I'm inclined to believe Purdy put the ball where he wanted and thought BA could make a play out of it if he would adjust to the open area.

It's possible that play could have had a negative outcome if the DB played it differently, but I appreciate that Purdy trusted Aiyuk to make the play.

It's just a lot of folks refuse to believe that the last pick of the draft can be any good and continue to play like this. I was living in Germany at the time Tom Brady took over and I don't even know if the media talked him down like he can't do that or this like they do Brock. I just wonder if they did

Originally posted by Jcool:
Jimmy was a good QB for the 49ers. His biggest issue was an inability to stay healthy.

Agree.

Somebody superimpose Brock's head on Rocky's body



Brocky Balboa :)

Originally posted by WestCoastForever:

Originally posted by Jcool:
Jimmy was a good QB for the 49ers. His biggest issue was an inability to stay healthy.

Agree.

And open his eyes

Caleb deserves to be in the Wendy's commercial with Leinart.

USC loser QBs. Add Butt Fumble in there too.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
I guess you'd have to define improving in the immediate short term. In the immediate short term Jimmy lost to the trash ass broncos and ran out of the back of the end zone. 🤣🤣🤣

They did improve after that game, then improved more when Purdy's number was called.

The immediate short term meaning that particular season obviously. They replaced their starting QB with a better player. This is as basic as it gets but somehow against Ring's latest flavor of the day argument.

I don't know how many games he's referring to, but to me immediate would be the next game or 2. We only get 17 per year, but to say things didn't improve under Jimmy overall is disingenuous.

I only asked for something to back up the claim that the team improved in the "immediate short term" as a result of the QB change, meaning obviously the first handful of games after the change and before CMC was integrated into the offense. I don't see this demonstrable immediate improvement. I'm thankful for CMC (and later, Purdy) for saving us from a .500 or below season last year.

The offense looked good in the Seahawks game with jimmy. Stunk it up against the broncos and then was good for the next few games. I consider that immediate. The offense as a whole looked smoother with jimmy instead of Lance. Lance didn't get much of a sample size but Lance looked pretty bad. People like to bring up the rushing stats for the beginning of the Seahawks game but Lance only contributed like 30 yards and the o line made holes a diesel could of drove through for the RBs - Lance still sucked in the red zone his few chances. If Lance couldn't beat out darnold and the team was ready to dump him for a 6-7th rounder (before Dallas out bid everyone), it's not hard to realize he ran the offense very poorly in kyles eyes - that's all that matters. The team obviously doesn't think Trey has a bright future if they're sending him to a conference rival for peanuts.

Just like the team looked much better and smoother with Purdy than jimmy. The whole goal of the move was to improve the qb position and we've done that by moving on from Lance & jimmy, thank god.

we are in a great spot now. Lance nor jimmy was what we wanted or needed. Sucks because we invested a lot in Lance and he seems like a great guy, but playin qb is hard and finding a great qb is even harder. I think we lucked out but time will tell.

i just hope Brock beats the brakes off of the cowboys 😈😈

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Here we go again.

Steven Ruiz of The Ringer says the 49ers can't win a Super Bowl with Brock Purdy

🎥 @ringer pic.twitter.com/QmGfMvrwO2

— KNBR (@KNBR) October 5, 2023

I don't get why some are saying that pass to Aiyuk was under thrown. Aiyuk never slowed down for the pass and had to reach for it with his finger tips. It looked like Purdy led him to an open area where the DB had his back to him and was running full sprint to catch up.

maybe I need to see the play again? Does anyone have All-22 of that particular play?

Yeah, Jonnydel breaks it down in his film study. I think there's a thread with it on the forum page (edit: here... https://youtu.be/58J5uOc_FWA). Purdy also is quoted as saying he was putting it right where he wanted, where only Aiyuk could make the play. The folks who have called it bad seem to think the DB coming over from the far side could have made an easy pick if he had looked for the ball. But that line of thinking is flawed because A)he had his back to the LOS and B)he had his back to the LOS. Purdy threw the pass against the DBs momentum. I really don't care whether it was a good or bad pass, just whether it worked out or not. There's 19 other completions that were right on point, so I'm inclined to believe Purdy put the ball where he wanted and thought BA could make a play out of it if he would adjust to the open area.

If Jonnydel was right about that play, then Brock is superman. I am a big fan of Brock, but I am just too totally convinced by Jonnydel.

If I am not mistaken, J.T. O'Sullivan thought the defender should have been able make a play on the ball but did poorly on the play, and Greg Cosell thought Brock didn't see the backside defender.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by scooterp10:
If he stays healthy all year, what do you think Brock would be worth after this season?

I'm not sure. I'm pretty confident that his value to us will be higher than his asking price in a trade regardless.

Agreed, if he keeps up this pace (or really close to it). I wouldn't even accept four first round picks for him. His value in a sense would be priceless to us because of the category he puts us, and keeps us in, to compete for chips. The odds of replacing it with one of those first would be slim, we would most likely end up back around a Jimmy G caliber qb - which has a big time impact on us competing annually at the level we need to. That's my opinon at least

Especially when you factor in his cap hit and contract timing remaining

Personally, you don't trade a generational talent. Period. That's it.

Specifically at QB. You typically don't trade tackles, DEs, or QBs when they're the best at what they do. They're corner stones and the odds of replacing them are slim. Those are players that you typically try to do anything to get your hands on them.

Usually it's a poorly ran franchise if they're doing stuff like that, like WAS when they traded away Trent Williams for a FIFTH round pick. Lol

Elite QB's and DE's are impact positions. If you have both, you will make the playoffs year in and year out. How much is it worth to make the playoffs every year - pretty much priceless. It's beyond stupid to trade those players for draft picks.

Cowboys fans have no faith in Dak, I am glad we have a qb we can be confident in 😎

Imagine getting a 41 yard bomb completion to Aiyuk. Supposedly Purdy's weakness. The deep ball. Placed perfectly the only place the WR can make the play and the DB's can't. Then trying to spin that as a bad play. My God these people are desperate.