QB Brock Purdy Thread

it's just crazy but Brocky is still making incremental improvement with every start now, he seems so relaxed and confident, the game is really slowing down for him

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Originally posted by Wubbie:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
As I watch JTO breakdowns, i think of Walsh smiling on Brock's anticipation throws

When I think of Purdy, I generally think that he's Good/Great in all the major categories, but JTO and Jonnydel's breakdowns help me realize that in anticipation... Brock Purdy is ELITE.

So MANY plays where Brock is already in his windup when the receiver is entering his break. And not just short passes, but intermediate/deep throws.

It's one of the things that you can just point to in the film. There's no lies there. Indisputable.

I have to think it's out.of not having a cannon, so like Walsh want of Montana-- anticipate the throw early-- when it gets there, it hits the receiver in strides. There's no way Brock just learned this from the Niners, he had to already done it in the years in college. So good.

A lot of QBs are hesitant to trust their guys to be in the spot the play expects them to be in, partially because when they are not in sync that can lead to weird moments like the two passes last night where Brock threw to empty space. Worse, such miscommunication can lead to INTs, so I feel that a lot of QBs want to wait as long as possible to make sure their guy isn't gonna screw them. But you just can't play that way even if it goes against every instinct to trust but verify - you just have to trust. Guys with elite top level arm strength can wait a bit longer because they can muscle it in, so having this trust is even more important to a QB who doesn't have that top level arm. It's just very hard to do from a psychological standpoint, which is why you just don't see it to this degree of efficiency all that often.

Good point. One play last night was when Mason broke inside on an option route, but Brock threw it outside. Incomplete. Those type of miscommunications could lead to a turnover but it is necessary to beat good defenses. I thought Mason was correct imo. Now they will correct it going forward and be better off. But throwing with anticipation is absolutely necessary, especially to get the edge against good coverage.

Originally posted by pdc20:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by pdc20:
He also said that Purdy was mini Joe Burrow IIRC after the Seahawks game in the POs.
Maybe he was joking I don't know.
But from what I read, he never questionned the fact that Purdy was the starter.
His problem was the lack of physical talent that lowered the ceiling of Purdy. Is this a wild take?
I don't think so. At least less that some people that thought that Shanahan could fix Darnold and do a Steve Young remake.
Ultimately, we all say dumb things consistently on this message board.
Just read the first pages of this topic.^^

Yeah, I just think the difference between NY and myself when it comes to evaluating QBs is he places a lot of a players potential on their physical skill set, while I don't. Brocks skill set is more than enough and the rest is mental/work ethic.

i just think it's important for a qb to process the game and have the right instincts. Something I don't think Lance has but only time will tell.

The thing is that it's hard to deny that guys like Mahomes, Josh Allen or Herbert just to name a few have everything you want for the QB position.
Ultimately we can talk about mental process, accuracy, timing, poise all we want, when someone has that and the big arm and the athletiscm it's basically game over.
Like seriously I'm not a big Mahomes fan but jeesus sometimes when you think that in order to win the Superbowl you have to beat this dude + Andy Reid, yeah I'm like give me Mahomes 2.0 with Kyle.
But ultimately you're never gonna find this player. So yeah I agree with you, give me a Joe Burrow. Not the most athletic, not a big arm but he does everything well and his mental process is top notch.
I don't think NY disagrees with this. He probably thinks that it would be better to also have the canon and the super mobility to beat the Mahomes and Allen of this world and soon probably Caleb Williams.
I'm a little bit more romantic. So I like to think that for every John Elway or Dan Marino there's a Joe Montana.

But the argument has always been that Brady, the greatest QB to ever play the game, didn't need to be the most physically gifted to become the greatest. When you can process the game as quickly, and throw with such anticipation, with a lightning quick release, you're essentially unstoppable.

The reason we haven't seen a Brady in Lamar Jackson's body is precisely because you have to have limits to push your other skills to compensate. Like, Kap never had to learn to throw anyone open because his formative years playing, he could just wait for a player to get open then cannon in a fastball.

im not saying it can't happen where an uber athlete athlete has the intangibles and mental acuity of a Brady or Montana, just that it's so rare it's never happened. Certainly we've seen really good athletes with really good intangibles, but the best of both worlds is simply a unicorn that has yet to exist. Mahomes is as close as we've seen, and even he is not close to the athlete that guys like Lamar is.

Originally posted by thl408:
Good point. One play last night was when Mason broke inside on an option route, but Brock threw it outside. Incomplete. Those type of miscommunications could lead to a turnover but it is necessary to beat good defenses. I thought Mason was correct imo. Now they will correct it going forward and be better off. But throwing with anticipation is absolutely necessary, especially to get the edge against good coverage.

You may be correct that Mason saw it correct, but if I had to guess, I would bet on BP over Mason in terms of familiarity with that stuff. It's an issue whenever CMC checks out, those other backs on pass downs, are a bit of an issue. Obviously no back is gonna be on the CMC level as a pass catcher off the bench, but these guys aren't even good pass catchers, by league avg standard. Surprised they didn't get a known pass catching back as a vet FA backup.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Heroism:
Brock throwing a f**king seed past Frankenstein aka LVE BCB for real.

These three throws from Brock Purdy on the same drive (one called back) were on the money, down the field, hitting his receivers in stride for YAC.

Each of them could've been Purdy's best throw of the night. pic.twitter.com/O9YNwo80Jv

— Akash Anavarathan (@akashanav) October 9, 2023

GREAT pass blocking on *all* three pass plays, in my opinion. McKivitz looking *good.*

I about jumped through the ceiling when he hit that one after the penalty. Was just freakin awesome!

Originally posted by Wubbie:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Originally posted by Wubbie:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
As I watch JTO breakdowns, i think of Walsh smiling on Brock's anticipation throws

When I think of Purdy, I generally think that he's Good/Great in all the major categories, but JTO and Jonnydel's breakdowns help me realize that in anticipation... Brock Purdy is ELITE.

So MANY plays where Brock is already in his windup when the receiver is entering his break. And not just short passes, but intermediate/deep throws.

It's one of the things that you can just point to in the film. There's no lies there. Indisputable.

I have to think it's out.of not having a cannon, so like Walsh want of Montana-- anticipate the throw early-- when it gets there, it hits the receiver in strides. There's no way Brock just learned this from the Niners, he had to already done it in the years in college. So good.

That's true, and just another reason why teams are looking for guys with cannon, 99 Throwing Power arms. It just feels harder to find a guy who can throw with anticipation.

I suppose it is hard to figure out whether a prospect has the anticipation and processing speed based on college tapes. You don't have the the same issue trying to figure out a prospect's arm strength.

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Purdy will be our next SF 49ers Super Bowl winning QB.

You heard it hear first

https://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/196059-qb-brock-purdy-thread/page12/#reply

Originally posted by captveg:
I think Michael Irvin really nailed it (around 7:20) - Purdy doesn't have the desire to prove things outside the team mindset, so is unlikely to make critical errors. IMO that comes from having to do just that in college and seeing how much better the results are when you work within the game plan whenever it's available to you, and only improv when the game plan is truly blown up by the other team or you own team's mistakes.



To back this up, look at this quote Purdy gave Peter King last night:

"Every level that I've played at growing up it's like you get to that level and at first you may think it's a big deal, but then once I start playing it's like, 'Man this is just football.' Youth to high school, high school to college, and college to NFL. Just football. Yes, everyone's better at every level, but at the end of the day, man, you're throwing a football to some guys trying to get open and catch it. And that's really how I look at it. Try to keep it simple. This is a simple game."

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/fmia/news/fmia-week-5-49ers-vs-cowboys-brock-purdy-mvp-nfl-rankings-dick-butkus-peter-king

Purdy has a great mindset, and being a 4 year starter just gives him so much experience. No surprise that he was able to acclimate to the NFL relatively quickly.

Originally posted by captveg:
Imagine if Purdy leads this team to a SB. Would be the greatest Mr. Irrelevant story of all time.

^ When Purdy made the roster

Originally posted by captveg:
And now begins the greatest Mr. Irrelevant legend of all time, as Purdy leads the 49ers to a SB championship.

^ When he came in against Miami

Originally posted by captveg:
I'm going with this until 49ers are officially eliminated. I mean, what else am I going to do? Wallow in misery like the other 60% of this fan base?

^ After he beat Miami



Not gonna lie - I was being "whatever optimistic" and borderline sarcastic when I made these posts, but I still feel vindicated. Didn't get to quite pull it off last year, and he still needs to win the SB to bring it all into a reality, but I think it's more than safe to say that it would be stunning for any other Mr. Irrelevant to ever surpass what Purdy has already accomplished in 10 regular season starts and 3 playoff starts.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Big caveat: It's only 5 games! But...

Brock Purdy's 2023 is currently the most efficient season for a QB statistically (EPA per pass play) in @TruMediaSports' database, which goes back to 2000.

Narrowly ahead of:

Peyton Manning (2004)
Tom Brady (2007)
Aaron Rodgers (2011)

— Sheil Kapadia (@SheilKapadia) October 9, 2023

Anybody got those Nick Foles 2013 numbers? At this point Foles is the only example I can think of that was on this high of a cliff and then plummeted. Wasn't quite as consistently and for as long of a sample size though, so I highly doubt Purdy plummets the same way.

His skill set is not prone to plummeting. He is smart, calm and confident. He ain't changing. He will get better not worse. Yes he will have off games. Everyone does but purdy is the real deal.

Originally posted by Mankster:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Heroism:
Brock throwing a f**king seed past Frankenstein aka LVE BCB for real.

These three throws from Brock Purdy on the same drive (one called back) were on the money, down the field, hitting his receivers in stride for YAC.

Each of them could've been Purdy's best throw of the night. pic.twitter.com/O9YNwo80Jv

— Akash Anavarathan (@akashanav) October 9, 2023

GREAT pass blocking on *all* three pass plays, in my opinion. McKivitz looking *good.*

I about jumped through the ceiling when he hit that one after the penalty. Was just freakin awesome!

Totally agree!

That was a real back-breaker for the Cowboys.

That crushed them.

The new Baby Face Assassin

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
it's just crazy but Brocky is still making incremental improvement with every start now, he seems so relaxed and confident, the game is really slowing down for him

I have a theory...(i am not a doctor)...I think his arm is still regaining strength from the injury. He really looks better and better each week.

And wow...talk about correcting his deep ball.

He was upset and said he was going to work on it..and it shows. what a pro!

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:

Originally posted by Mankster:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Heroism:
Brock throwing a f**king seed past Frankenstein aka LVE BCB for real.

These three throws from Brock Purdy on the same drive (one called back) were on the money, down the field, hitting his receivers in stride for YAC.

Each of them could've been Purdy's best throw of the night. pic.twitter.com/O9YNwo80Jv

— Akash Anavarathan (@akashanav) October 9, 2023

GREAT pass blocking on *all* three pass plays, in my opinion. McKivitz looking *good.*

I about jumped through the ceiling when he hit that one after the penalty. Was just freakin awesome!

Totally agree!

That was a real back-breaker for the Cowboys.

That crushed them.

That was so sexy.

The thing that blows me away is I dont hold my breath when he throws.

While I liked JG I always held my breath when he threw further than 10 yrds.

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Purdy will be our next SF 49ers Super Bowl winning QB.

You heard it hear first

You also said "Jimmy isn't going anywhere" in regards to this offseason.

Why should we take you seriously?

WB, give ppl a chance.. no one is perfect and anything could happen..

that said, this prediction couldn't possibly happen and is terrible. as such, i cannot take it seriously.. good day..

This is true, why would YOU take ME serious on a fan message board. I do not have a crystal ball.

But wouldn't it be cool if Purdy won a few super bowls as Mr. Irrelevant?

From page 12 of the Purdy threat. Pretty hilarious to look back at this.

Purdy May just so get us a few Super Bowls, all before his rookie contract expires. Muahahah