QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by tankle104:
Yeah I think what more people should be asking is "how did everyone miss him in the evaluation?"

I personally think too many people try to evaluate QBs the same way you evaluate all the other positions - rely way too much on physical measurable and think they're relevant. QB is the one position where physical tools don't determine your potential, like it does for WR/CB/OL/DL etc.

I mean all of this sounds good until you have to give your list of the Top 5 QBs in the 2024 NFL Draft,...and your job may be on the line.

If it were as easy as correcting these cliches,....there wouldn't be very many misses.

This topic has been analyzed and overanalyzed to death. At the end of the day there's always gonna be guys that slip through the cracks due to the amount of CFB teams and players there are.

There's nothing surprising @ all about guys like Brock slipping through the cracks.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Yeah I think what more people should be asking is "how did everyone miss him in the evaluation?"

I personally think too many people try to evaluate QBs the same way you evaluate all the other positions - rely way too much on physical measurable and think they're relevant. QB is the one position where physical tools don't determine your potential, like it does for WR/CB/OL/DL etc.

I mean all of this sounds good until you have to give your list of the Top 5 QBs in the 2024 NFL Draft,...and your job may be on the line.

If it were as easy as correcting these cliches,....there wouldn't be very many misses.

This topic has been analyzed and overanalyzed to death. At the end of the day there's always gonna be guys that slip through the cracks due to the amount of CFB teams and players there are.

There's nothing surprising @ all about guys like Brock slipping through the cracks.

Tom Brady was 6th round. Joe Montana was 3rd round. They don't always get it right. At QB in fact they very often get it wrong. QB is 90% shoulder pads on up. Between the ears. That's where Brock_Star has the force. Same way Montana and Brady did.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Yeah I think what more people should be asking is "how did everyone miss him in the evaluation?"

I personally think too many people try to evaluate QBs the same way you evaluate all the other positions - rely way too much on physical measurable and think they're relevant. QB is the one position where physical tools don't determine your potential, like it does for WR/CB/OL/DL etc.

I mean all of this sounds good until you have to give your list of the Top 5 QBs in the 2024 NFL Draft,...and your job may be on the line.

If it were as easy as correcting these cliches,....there wouldn't be very many misses.

This topic has been analyzed and overanalyzed to death. At the end of the day there's always gonna be guys that slip through the cracks due to the amount of CFB teams and players there are.

There's nothing surprising @ all about guys like Brock slipping through the cracks.

Neither Mahomes nor Brady were rated at the top of the draft. Just goes to show. Its a crap shoot. We smacked it with Brock and blew it with Lance. Who would have known?

Originally posted by TyCore:

Originally posted by WestCoastForever:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

noodle arm
system quarterback
inconsistent college tape
not tall enough
last pick of the draft

what did I miss?

Dad bod.

Someone...here...called him a mobile Nick Mullens.

But in all seriousness, the narrative should flip entirely. There shouldnt really be talk about last pick, Mr Irrelevant...no feelgood story about a plucky tryhard beating the odds to find success in the NFL.

The story, IMO, is how an entire 150 BILLION dollar industry filled with analytic data and untold thousands of years of collective experience overlooked such prodigious talent repeatedly.

I think Steve Smith got it right. People are scared to be wrong.

So scared they'll all line up behind Zach Wilsons and Trey Lances because they see measurables but can't see when someone is truly made for the position.

Even though they should focus on what really matters over size, arm strength and raw potential, teams will still get suckered in by those things as they have for half a century.

I mean, I understood Brady falling thru the cracks. He had only one decent year, tested very poorly at the combine, didn't come out looking athletic/mobile at all, and had been beat out by Brian Griese for the starting job previously at Michigan. He also completed less then 62% of his passes.

In hindsight, Purdy obviously should've never fallen to the seventh, even if you were just knocking him on some of the measurable things.

How most scouts were able to see his leadership, processing, decision-making, pocket presence, instincts, mobility, and work ethic/character and not think to invest any pick in him, is just nuts to me. He was always efficient and productive. Dude hit 72% completion percentage his senior year and also ran for nearly 1200 with 19 rushing touchdowns in his college career.

Originally posted by tankle104:
Yeah I think what more people should be asking is "how did everyone miss him in the evaluation?"

I personally think too many people try to evaluate QBs the same way you evaluate all the other positions - rely way too much on physical measurable and think they're relevant. QB is the one position where physical tools don't determine your potential, like it does for WR/CB/OL/DL etc.

as long as the QBs measurable date good enough, because there is a baseline it needs to meet, then it's really all about what's between their ears and work ethic. How do they process the game, spacial awareness, leadership, work ethic, etc.

if they have all of the things mentioned above AND great physical tools, great. If they have average physical tools and all the right things mentioned above, that's great too.

but I don't think you can take someone with just
the physical tools and teach them the rest. Which is why so many people fail at drafting QBs. They try to take athletes and make them cerebral quarterbacks. A qb with great physical tools is just an immaterial bonus. Look at so many of the greats - they weren't Josh allen. They're closer to Brock Purdy.

Hard to measure a player's will and heart until they are put in the middle of the gridiron war zone.

It starts with the physical attributes. Honestly look at Brock. He just doesn't look like the prototypical first day qb draft pick that a team should invest draft capital on and millions in rookie contract. He not only slip through the crack, he was discounted. He would've been an UDFA if the Niners hadn't picked him. Knowing now the talent that he has, it must've been terrible for him to go through all that.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Use the force Brock

Do or do not. There is no try

🔦

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
i say stop with these SB or 15 year type posts

just enjoy the week by weeks, time will do the rest

No harm in dreaming a bit. It's part of enjoying the ride.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
The amazing thing is , and it is hard to believe, Brock couldn't throw the ball 3 feet in his last NFCCG last yr after the 3rd play. So, nobody says it but we all know that just 9 mos ago , Brock had basically a potentially career ending surgery to repair UCL in his throwing arm. That is just ridiculous that he can start up again as if nothing ever happened. Ridiculous.

Yep, I know. It's pretty incredible. That game was gut wrenching. I think he just had tons of support all around, great med staff etc. Also, BP's mental balance probably was a factor too. I am *so* glad he made it through all of that to the other side. I still can't believe it really lol

I've been dreaming of having a special QB again for decades. Brock seems like he may be.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Yeah I think what more people should be asking is "how did everyone miss him in the evaluation?"

I personally think too many people try to evaluate QBs the same way you evaluate all the other positions - rely way too much on physical measurable and think they're relevant. QB is the one position where physical tools don't determine your potential, like it does for WR/CB/OL/DL etc.

I mean all of this sounds good until you have to give your list of the Top 5 QBs in the 2024 NFL Draft,...and your job may be on the line.

If it were as easy as correcting these cliches,....there wouldn't be very many misses.

This topic has been analyzed and overanalyzed to death. At the end of the day there's always gonna be guys that slip through the cracks due to the amount of CFB teams and players there are.

There's nothing surprising @ all about guys like Brock slipping through the cracks.

It's no different than a regular job. Most people at jobs are cowards and just scared of "rockin the boat". So they go with the safe east bet to cover their ass. It's a big reason why I have my own business, so I don't have to deal with lames like that anymore. I do what I think is right. I was successful in corp America by doing that and been successful on my own doing it. I hate cowards, which is what I consider those kind of people.

My dad would always tell me when I was a kid that people that are scared to give their honest opinion and go against the grain because of risk are cowards and that cowards steal from us. They don't take chances and go with what they actually believe because they're scared and it robs the rest of us from achieving great things. City workers rob us of projects cause they're scared to approve certain things, I see it all the time.

i work in commercial real estate development and I understand there is reasonable safety concerns with stuff or potential for projects to not work out, but I've seen so many great projects not accepted by companies cause peoples risk profiles are pathetic, then another group does it and it works out wonderful. Lol

im just ranting but I hate the answer of "well people have their jobs to think about". Well then you're in the wrong job. Go take a job that doesn't require you to have an opinion. I'm not speaking to you specifically, just in general.

Originally posted by WestCoastForever:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
i say stop with these SB or 15 year type posts

just enjoy the week by weeks, time will do the rest

No harm in dreaming a bit. It's part of enjoying the ride.

dreaming aint real.. need to be awake to enjoy it

I was thinking it's Friday the 13th coming up, a day that may seem spooky..then I was like, nope, it's Friday the Brockteenth:)

Originally posted by WestCoastForever:

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
pretty realistic to think he may even become SBMVP

lets get the division first

dont stop there, lets beat the browns first!

let's have some good prax first

Let's make sure we take a good piss and not get any splatter on the toilet seat first.