QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
This game completely sold me on BCB. Dude made an elite NFL D look like a bunch of pee-wee players. This team is built to win it all without question.

Same.

Dude is unbelievable.

Really?

What about benching Brock 8 games to give Trey the chance to "develop"?

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
This game completely sold me on BCB. Dude made an elite NFL D look like a bunch of pee-wee players. This team is built to win it all without question.

it was odd that you fought it for this long

No I just needed more before being all in. I feel like that shouldn't have been an extreme take in here. Either way he's been great and I'm all in.

Thats called "Joy" syndrome... from "the speak" or whatever the show with shady and Acho are on.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
We have too many ways to evaluate QBs now. Efficiency. Passer rating. QBR. Completion percentage. It goes on and on. I don't really care about all the stats. I watch and make my own decision. In my eyes, Brock can play. Until he shows me he can't then he's the man.

All of this. I don't care about most of these stats. I'm just happy that the 49ers have a quarterback that has three qualities that I always want to see in a QB:

1. Good, consistent footwork. Bill Walsh, Mike Holmgren, and all manner of other top offensive coaches were fixated on a QBs footwork for good reason, the feet are everything. If you're consistently with a good throwing platform, if you're balanced and precise in your movements, your timing and accuracy are both likely to be in point as well.

2. Throw to a spot, not a receiver. Anyone can throw to a wide open receiver, thats not a big deal. In college you can be mega successful throwing to wide open receivers. In the NFL those windows shrink a lot. The great QBs will be willing to deliver the ball to where the receiver will be, not where they are.

3. Quick release. You can get by with a long, clunky throwing motion, especially if you have tremendous arm strength but there is an enormous advantage in having a compact throwing motion and being able to fire out the ball fast. It hampers both the opposing pass rush and defensive backs.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
This game completely sold me on BCB. Dude made an elite NFL D look like a bunch of pee-wee players. This team is built to win it all without question.

it was odd that you fought it for this long

No I just needed more before being all in. I feel like that shouldn't have been an extreme take in here. Either way he's been great and I'm all in.

NY all in. The kiss of death ☠️
It was fine while it lasted.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
We have too many ways to evaluate QBs now. Efficiency. Passer rating. QBR. Completion percentage. It goes on and on. I don't really care about all the stats. I watch and make my own decision. In my eyes, Brock can play. Until he shows me he can't then he's the man.

All of this. I don't care about most of these stats. I'm just happy that the 49ers have a quarterback that has three qualities that I always want to see in a QB:

1. Good, consistent footwork. Bill Walsh, Mike Holmgren, and all manner of other top offensive coaches were fixated on a QBs footwork for good reason, the feet are everything. If you're consistently with a good throwing platform, if you're balanced and precise in your movements, your timing and accuracy are both likely to be in point as well.

2. Throw to a spot, not a receiver. Anyone can throw to a wide open receiver, thats not a big deal. In college you can be mega successful throwing to wide open receivers. In the NFL those windows shrink a lot. The great QBs will be willing to deliver the ball to where the receiver will be, not where they are.

3. Quick release. You can get by with a long, clunky throwing motion, especially if you have tremendous arm strength but there is an enormous advantage in having a compact throwing motion and being able to fire out the ball fast. It hampers both the opposing pass rush and defensive backs.

Hmmmm.... none of these three are on Steven Ruiz's pie chart for QB rankings. Sorry Phoenix, those Walsh and Holmes guys don't seem to really know how to evaluate QBs after all.

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
This game completely sold me on BCB. Dude made an elite NFL D look like a bunch of pee-wee players. This team is built to win it all without question.

Same.

Dude is unbelievable.

Really?

What about benching Brock 8 games to give Trey the chance to "develop"?

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
We have too many ways to evaluate QBs now. Efficiency. Passer rating. QBR. Completion percentage. It goes on and on. I don't really care about all the stats. I watch and make my own decision. In my eyes, Brock can play. Until he shows me he can't then he's the man.

All of this. I don't care about most of these stats. I'm just happy that the 49ers have a quarterback that has three qualities that I always want to see in a QB:

1. Good, consistent footwork. Bill Walsh, Mike Holmgren, and all manner of other top offensive coaches were fixated on a QBs footwork for good reason, the feet are everything. If you're consistently with a good throwing platform, if you're balanced and precise in your movements, your timing and accuracy are both likely to be in point as well.

2. Throw to a spot, not a receiver. Anyone can throw to a wide open receiver, thats not a big deal. In college you can be mega successful throwing to wide open receivers. In the NFL those windows shrink a lot. The great QBs will be willing to deliver the ball to where the receiver will be, not where they are.

3. Quick release. You can get by with a long, clunky throwing motion, especially if you have tremendous arm strength but there is an enormous advantage in having a compact throwing motion and being able to fire out the ball fast. It hampers both the opposing pass rush and defensive backs.

Hmmmm.... none of these three are on Steven Ruiz's pie chart for QB rankings. Sorry Phoenix, those Walsh and Holmes guys don't seem to really know how to evaluate QBs after all.

The anticipation with Brock is throwing the ball, how well he's reading the defense and ball placement is, as J.T. O'Sullivan would say it, "world class".

There's some things that are absolutes to evaluation. If a guy shows he can do it, it's not a fluke, it's not a maybe, it's not a temporary thing - it means he's got it. His ability to see the field and throw the ball on time, with the anticipation he does, is some of the best I've watched on tape, period. Not with the 49ers, period.

I know it's a small sample size but when I mean some of the best, it's up there with what I've seen from Brees, Brady, Rodgers - guys who've played the game from the neck up as well as anyone ever.

I don't like to bring Jimmy up because that becomes a whole bag of cats, but Jimmy had some real nice qualities. Accuracy, quick release, look defenders off, ball was on time.

But, what I didn't see from Jimmy was this kind of routine anticipation. Jimmy could make up for it with his quick release and for the most part was on it. Brock is on a different level. That's not a knock on Jimmy. That's saying something. He's not wow'ing you with a laser into tight coverage because his anticipation is so good he's manipulating the defense to move guys around to open things up or throwing so early that the defense isn't able to close the windows.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
We have too many ways to evaluate QBs now. Efficiency. Passer rating. QBR. Completion percentage. It goes on and on. I don't really care about all the stats. I watch and make my own decision. In my eyes, Brock can play. Until he shows me he can't then he's the man.

All of this. I don't care about most of these stats. I'm just happy that the 49ers have a quarterback that has three qualities that I always want to see in a QB:

1. Good, consistent footwork. Bill Walsh, Mike Holmgren, and all manner of other top offensive coaches were fixated on a QBs footwork for good reason, the feet are everything. If you're consistently with a good throwing platform, if you're balanced and precise in your movements, your timing and accuracy are both likely to be in point as well.

2. Throw to a spot, not a receiver. Anyone can throw to a wide open receiver, thats not a big deal. In college you can be mega successful throwing to wide open receivers. In the NFL those windows shrink a lot. The great QBs will be willing to deliver the ball to where the receiver will be, not where they are.

3. Quick release. You can get by with a long, clunky throwing motion, especially if you have tremendous arm strength but there is an enormous advantage in having a compact throwing motion and being able to fire out the ball fast. It hampers both the opposing pass rush and defensive backs.

Sure these 3 qualities are important, but the processing speed, decision making, and stay calm under pressure are as important. Brock got all of these qualities.

Originally posted by jonnydel:
The anticipation with Brock is throwing the ball, how well he's reading the defense and ball placement is, as J.T. O'Sullivan would say it, "world class".

There's some things that are absolutes to evaluation. If a guy shows he can do it, it's not a fluke, it's not a maybe, it's not a temporary thing - it means he's got it. His ability to see the field and throw the ball on time, with the anticipation he does, is some of the best I've watched on tape, period. Not with the 49ers, period.

I know it's a small sample size but when I mean some of the best, it's up there with what I've seen from Brees, Brady, Rodgers - guys who've played the game from the neck up as well as anyone ever.

I don't like to bring Jimmy up because that becomes a whole bag of cats, but Jimmy had some real nice qualities. Accuracy, quick release, look defenders off, ball was on time.

But, what I didn't see from Jimmy was this kind of routine anticipation. Jimmy could make up for it with his quick release and for the most part was on it. Brock is on a different level. That's not a knock on Jimmy. That's saying something. He's not wow'ing you with a laser into tight coverage because his anticipation is so good he's manipulating the defense to move guys around to open things up or throwing so early that the defense isn't able to close the windows.

well said,

being accurate, playing with anticipation, seeing the field well pre and post snap, that plays in most all systems, in today's NFL

pretty sure purdy just closes his eyes and lets it rip like "jesus take the ball!!"

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
pretty sure purdy just closes his eyes and lets it rip like "jesus take the ball!!"

that was #15 DEN

Originally posted by Alfienator:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
This game completely sold me on BCB. Dude made an elite NFL D look like a bunch of pee-wee players. This team is built to win it all without question.

it was odd that you fought it for this long

No I just needed more before being all in. I feel like that shouldn't have been an extreme take in here. Either way he's been great and I'm all in.

NY all in. The kiss of death ☠️
It was fine while it lasted.

Agree! We (or Brock) is *doomed!*

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
This game completely sold me on BCB. Dude made an elite NFL D look like a bunch of pee-wee players. This team is built to win it all without question.

Same.

Dude is unbelievable.

Really?

What about benching Brock 8 games to give Trey the chance to "develop"?

Green Bay is conducting just such an experiment right now.

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
We have too many ways to evaluate QBs now. Efficiency. Passer rating. QBR. Completion percentage. It goes on and on. I don't really care about all the stats. I watch and make my own decision. In my eyes, Brock can play. Until he shows me he can't then he's the man.

All of this. I don't care about most of these stats. I'm just happy that the 49ers have a quarterback that has three qualities that I always want to see in a QB:

1. Good, consistent footwork. Bill Walsh, Mike Holmgren, and all manner of other top offensive coaches were fixated on a QBs footwork for good reason, the feet are everything. If you're consistently with a good throwing platform, if you're balanced and precise in your movements, your timing and accuracy are both likely to be in point as well.

2. Throw to a spot, not a receiver. Anyone can throw to a wide open receiver, thats not a big deal. In college you can be mega successful throwing to wide open receivers. In the NFL those windows shrink a lot. The great QBs will be willing to deliver the ball to where the receiver will be, not where they are.

3. Quick release. You can get by with a long, clunky throwing motion, especially if you have tremendous arm strength but there is an enormous advantage in having a compact throwing motion and being able to fire out the ball fast. It hampers both the opposing pass rush and defensive backs.

Hmmmm.... none of these three are on Steven Ruiz's pie chart for QB rankings. Sorry Phoenix, those Walsh and Holmes guys don't seem to really know how to evaluate QBs after all.

The anticipation with Brock is throwing the ball, how well he's reading the defense and ball placement is, as J.T. O'Sullivan would say it, "world class".

There's some things that are absolutes to evaluation. If a guy shows he can do it, it's not a fluke, it's not a maybe, it's not a temporary thing - it means he's got it. His ability to see the field and throw the ball on time, with the anticipation he does, is some of the best I've watched on tape, period. Not with the 49ers, period.

I know it's a small sample size but when I mean some of the best, it's up there with what I've seen from Brees, Brady, Rodgers - guys who've played the game from the neck up as well as anyone ever.

I don't like to bring Jimmy up because that becomes a whole bag of cats, but Jimmy had some real nice qualities. Accuracy, quick release, look defenders off, ball was on time.

But, what I didn't see from Jimmy was this kind of routine anticipation. Jimmy could make up for it with his quick release and for the most part was on it. Brock is on a different level. That's not a knock on Jimmy. That's saying something. He's not wow'ing you with a laser into tight coverage because his anticipation is so good he's manipulating the defense to move guys around to open things up or throwing so early that the defense isn't able to close the windows.

Hell of a post

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
How do you defend against a QB that consistently throws the ball before the receiver even makes their break?

As long as the QB and Skill player are on the same page, it's like impossible to stop.

I can only think of one throw, I believe it was against Dallas, where Brock threw it and no one was there. That's the only play I can think of where there was a miscommunication.

Id be curious to hear Aiyuk and deebo talk about how different it is, awareness wise, to have to be aware to catch balls before you're open Vs Jimmy when he'd only throw if you were open (or triple covered LOL).

The offense has been a half step off regularly this season or Brock is shielding his Wrs or he has had ball placement issues. We have seen more balls behind his targets this year for sure.

Brock and this offense have a ton of room for growth. As the 49ers continue to add rout runners, and Brock grows and gets better...I think we look back at these early years as his growth phase.

As good as Brock looks he will be better.