QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
We have too many ways to evaluate QBs now. Efficiency. Passer rating. QBR. Completion percentage. It goes on and on. I don't really care about all the stats. I watch and make my own decision. In my eyes, Brock can play. Until he shows me he can't then he's the man.

All of this. I don't care about most of these stats. I'm just happy that the 49ers have a quarterback that has three qualities that I always want to see in a QB:

1. Good, consistent footwork. Bill Walsh, Mike Holmgren, and all manner of other top offensive coaches were fixated on a QBs footwork for good reason, the feet are everything. If you're consistently with a good throwing platform, if you're balanced and precise in your movements, your timing and accuracy are both likely to be in point as well.

2. Throw to a spot, not a receiver. Anyone can throw to a wide open receiver, thats not a big deal. In college you can be mega successful throwing to wide open receivers. In the NFL those windows shrink a lot. The great QBs will be willing to deliver the ball to where the receiver will be, not where they are.

3. Quick release. You can get by with a long, clunky throwing motion, especially if you have tremendous arm strength but there is an enormous advantage in having a compact throwing motion and being able to fire out the ball fast. It hampers both the opposing pass rush and defensive backs.

Agree 💯%, and I'll just add I think Brock has a photographic memory for football, otherwise how can anybody explain his ability to absorb Kyles voluminous playbook in a year and be as good as a veteran like Jimmy in running Kyle's offense. On top of that he gets even BETTER in his 2nd season, when Jimmy, Matt Ryan and others struggled for years to pick up Kyle's offense.

Brock's pinpoint accuracy is insane too. I've only seen accuracy like that with the likes of the past and recent legends of the NFL. He's thrown some balls with the windows measuring Inches wide, from 20+ yards away. That's Stephen Curry-like generational accuracy.

Finally, his ability to keep up with Kyle who's (I think) as close to an offensive genius as Bill Belichick is as a defensive genius, is rare. It's still shocking to me that Kyle allows Brock to call timeouts. Kyle got pissed at Saleh for calling a time out - and Saleh is his assistant coach. Wow! 👀

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
This game completely sold me on BCB. Dude made an elite NFL D look like a bunch of pee-wee players. This team is built to win it all without question.

Same.

Dude is unbelievable.

Really?

What about benching Brock 8 games to give Trey the chance to "develop"?

Green Bay is conducting just such an experiment right now.

GB sitting their own brock for Love ?

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
We have too many ways to evaluate QBs now. Efficiency. Passer rating. QBR. Completion percentage. It goes on and on. I don't really care about all the stats. I watch and make my own decision. In my eyes, Brock can play. Until he shows me he can't then he's the man.

All of this. I don't care about most of these stats. I'm just happy that the 49ers have a quarterback that has three qualities that I always want to see in a QB:

1. Good, consistent footwork. Bill Walsh, Mike Holmgren, and all manner of other top offensive coaches were fixated on a QBs footwork for good reason, the feet are everything. If you're consistently with a good throwing platform, if you're balanced and precise in your movements, your timing and accuracy are both likely to be in point as well.

2. Throw to a spot, not a receiver. Anyone can throw to a wide open receiver, thats not a big deal. In college you can be mega successful throwing to wide open receivers. In the NFL those windows shrink a lot. The great QBs will be willing to deliver the ball to where the receiver will be, not where they are.

3. Quick release. You can get by with a long, clunky throwing motion, especially if you have tremendous arm strength but there is an enormous advantage in having a compact throwing motion and being able to fire out the ball fast. It hampers both the opposing pass rush and defensive backs.

Hmmmm.... none of these three are on Steven Ruiz's pie chart for QB rankings. Sorry Phoenix, those Walsh and Holmes guys don't seem to really know how to evaluate QBs after all.

The anticipation with Brock is throwing the ball, how well he's reading the defense and ball placement is, as J.T. O'Sullivan would say it, "world class".

There's some things that are absolutes to evaluation. If a guy shows he can do it, it's not a fluke, it's not a maybe, it's not a temporary thing - it means he's got it. His ability to see the field and throw the ball on time, with the anticipation he does, is some of the best I've watched on tape, period. Not with the 49ers, period.

I know it's a small sample size but when I mean some of the best, it's up there with what I've seen from Brees, Brady, Rodgers - guys who've played the game from the neck up as well as anyone ever.

I don't like to bring Jimmy up because that becomes a whole bag of cats, but Jimmy had some real nice qualities. Accuracy, quick release, look defenders off, ball was on time.

But, what I didn't see from Jimmy was this kind of routine anticipation. Jimmy could make up for it with his quick release and for the most part was on it. Brock is on a different level. That's not a knock on Jimmy. That's saying something. He's not wow'ing you with a laser into tight coverage because his anticipation is so good he's manipulating the defense to move guys around to open things up or throwing so early that the defense isn't able to close the windows.

The above is a GREAT point. You rarely ever see Brock use 💯% of his arm strength because he's so anticipatory with his throws and is throwing when the Windows are still closed and haven't even been cracked open yet. You can touch pass those throws if you have that ridiculous anticipation and accuracy. Like you said, you probably can lob those balls vs rocketing them in there because the windows are still closed when it's thrown.

Originally posted by Giedi:
The above is a GREAT point. You rarely ever see Brock use 💯% of his arm strength because he's so anticipatory with his throws and is throwing when the Windows are still closed and haven't even been cracked open yet. You can touch pass those throws if you have that ridiculous anticipation and accuracy. Like you said, you probably can lob those balls vs rocketing them in there because the windows are still closed when it's thrown.

On BP, he still can grip it and rip it. Not prime Elway but he isn't a noodle arm, either. You'll see him drive balls to outside the numbers.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
We have too many ways to evaluate QBs now. Efficiency. Passer rating. QBR. Completion percentage. It goes on and on. I don't really care about all the stats. I watch and make my own decision. In my eyes, Brock can play. Until he shows me he can't then he's the man.

All of this. I don't care about most of these stats. I'm just happy that the 49ers have a quarterback that has three qualities that I always want to see in a QB:

1. Good, consistent footwork. Bill Walsh, Mike Holmgren, and all manner of other top offensive coaches were fixated on a QBs footwork for good reason, the feet are everything. If you're consistently with a good throwing platform, if you're balanced and precise in your movements, your timing and accuracy are both likely to be in point as well.

2. Throw to a spot, not a receiver. Anyone can throw to a wide open receiver, thats not a big deal. In college you can be mega successful throwing to wide open receivers. In the NFL those windows shrink a lot. The great QBs will be willing to deliver the ball to where the receiver will be, not where they are.

3. Quick release. You can get by with a long, clunky throwing motion, especially if you have tremendous arm strength but there is an enormous advantage in having a compact throwing motion and being able to fire out the ball fast. It hampers both the opposing pass rush and defensive backs.

Hmmmm.... none of these three are on Steven Ruiz's pie chart for QB rankings. Sorry Phoenix, those Walsh and Holmes guys don't seem to really know how to evaluate QBs after all.

The anticipation with Brock is throwing the ball, how well he's reading the defense and ball placement is, as J.T. O'Sullivan would say it, "world class".

There's some things that are absolutes to evaluation. If a guy shows he can do it, it's not a fluke, it's not a maybe, it's not a temporary thing - it means he's got it. His ability to see the field and throw the ball on time, with the anticipation he does, is some of the best I've watched on tape, period. Not with the 49ers, period.

I know it's a small sample size but when I mean some of the best, it's up there with what I've seen from Brees, Brady, Rodgers - guys who've played the game from the neck up as well as anyone ever.

I don't like to bring Jimmy up because that becomes a whole bag of cats, but Jimmy had some real nice qualities. Accuracy, quick release, look defenders off, ball was on time.

But, what I didn't see from Jimmy was this kind of routine anticipation. Jimmy could make up for it with his quick release and for the most part was on it. Brock is on a different level. That's not a knock on Jimmy. That's saying something. He's not wow'ing you with a laser into tight coverage because his anticipation is so good he's manipulating the defense to move guys around to open things up or throwing so early that the defense isn't able to close the windows.

The above is a GREAT point. You rarely ever see Brock use 💯% of his arm strength because he's so anticipatory with his throws and is throwing when the Windows are still closed and haven't even been cracked open yet. You can touch pass those throws if you have that ridiculous anticipation and accuracy. Like you said, you probably can lob those balls vs rocketing them in there because the windows are still closed when it's thrown.

Purdy knows how to use his feet better too. Whether that's called footwork or mechanics or both, he's much more impressive than Jimmy there.

Im starting to think Brock has the biggest testes and or shaft on the team

Purdy's sample size is 13, the Miami game last year counts. The Philly game doesn't count.

There's an article from February regarding Purdy's performance on the S2 cognition test. The exact score could not be mentioned, but he was in the mid 90s (ranked by percentile), which is elite, that's Mahomes and Burrow territory. It clearly shows with the way he plays, perhaps his strongest trait is going through his reads quickly and finding the open guy.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
How do you defend against a QB that consistently throws the ball before the receiver even makes their break?

You watched the 49ers do it last year....

You hold the defensive alignment as long as possible to not tip off the coverage and let the play come to you. With any luck a QB that normally gets 3.2 second to read and react, is now down to 2.5 second because it took longer for them to "read" the defense.

It is that old adage defend the player, or defend the grass. Last year had a heck of alot more defend the grass and take away passing windows. There is plus and minuses to both approaches....but I would suspect the easiest way to defend a QB that leads his target by 10 to 15 yards is don't let the offense dictate humongous passing lanes in the defense.

Originally posted by Dshearn:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
How do you defend against a QB that consistently throws the ball before the receiver even makes their break?

You watched the 49ers do it last year....

You hold the defensive alignment as long as possible to not tip off the coverage and let the play come to you. With any luck a QB that normally gets 3.2 second to read and react, is now down to 2.5 second because it took longer for them to "read" the defense.

It is that old adage defend the player, or defend the grass. Last year had a heck of alot more defend the grass and take away passing windows. There is plus and minuses to both approaches....but I would suspect the easiest way to defend a QB that leads his target by 10 to 15 yards is don't let the offense dictate humongous passing lanes in the defense.

defending lanes is hard to do when the QB can hit any spot on the field at any moment

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Dshearn:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
How do you defend against a QB that consistently throws the ball before the receiver even makes their break?

You watched the 49ers do it last year....

You hold the defensive alignment as long as possible to not tip off the coverage and let the play come to you. With any luck a QB that normally gets 3.2 second to read and react, is now down to 2.5 second because it took longer for them to "read" the defense.

It is that old adage defend the player, or defend the grass. Last year had a heck of alot more defend the grass and take away passing windows. There is plus and minuses to both approaches....but I would suspect the easiest way to defend a QB that leads his target by 10 to 15 yards is don't let the offense dictate humongous passing lanes in the defense.

defending lanes is hard to do when the QB can hit any spot on the field at any moment

As quickly as he is able to do it.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
This game completely sold me on BCB. Dude made an elite NFL D look like a bunch of pee-wee players. This team is built to win it all without question.

Same.

Dude is unbelievable.

Really?

What about benching Brock 8 games to give Trey the chance to "develop"?

Oh, it happened.

This is probably the gif you were looking for. So we can forget it ever happened

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
We have too many ways to evaluate QBs now. Efficiency. Passer rating. QBR. Completion percentage. It goes on and on. I don't really care about all the stats. I watch and make my own decision. In my eyes, Brock can play. Until he shows me he can't then he's the man.

All of this. I don't care about most of these stats. I'm just happy that the 49ers have a quarterback that has three qualities that I always want to see in a QB:

1. Good, consistent footwork. Bill Walsh, Mike Holmgren, and all manner of other top offensive coaches were fixated on a QBs footwork for good reason, the feet are everything. If you're consistently with a good throwing platform, if you're balanced and precise in your movements, your timing and accuracy are both likely to be in point as well.

2. Throw to a spot, not a receiver. Anyone can throw to a wide open receiver, thats not a big deal. In college you can be mega successful throwing to wide open receivers. In the NFL those windows shrink a lot. The great QBs will be willing to deliver the ball to where the receiver will be, not where they are.

3. Quick release. You can get by with a long, clunky throwing motion, especially if you have tremendous arm strength but there is an enormous advantage in having a compact throwing motion and being able to fire out the ball fast. It hampers both the opposing pass rush and defensive backs.

4. Lightning quick processor
5. High football IQ (turnovers)
6. Phonebooth mobility and pocket feel

The kid has it all.

Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:
Nice Job Lynch. Still could of used someone like McKinley at Safety or Jobe to compete at the CB position. Career practice squad player with NO potential.

This aged well. 😂

My new comp for Brock is Alex Honnold, the rock climber in the documentary Free Solo.
Pre-planning, vision, anticipation, a meditative state of mind, and literally no fear.

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
noodle arm
system quarterback
inconsistent college tape
not tall enough
last pick of the draft

what did I miss?

Short arms. Small hands

Regression to the mean. Defenses will figure him out. Low ceiling. As good as he will ever be.

Right now he is getting better. That was a very cool game against Dallas. Not sure how defenses will figure him out.

Just poking fun at my friend NY, I've been on the Purdy train since we drafted him. I immediately thought he was an insurance policy for Trey failing to improve.