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Originally posted by Ruixx:
I don't understand why it's only Brock Purdy that having weapons and a good coach is somehow a dig and takes away from his accomplishments. All the anti-Purdy media just skates over that. Because you know, Tua and Mahomes do it all themselves completely with no receivers, tight ends, offensive lines, and coaches.

Everyone on Tua's team runs a 4.2. He has the Olympic track team out there. That doesn't help him somehow? Yes it does obviously. Mahomes has outstanding talent for all his career and a great coach. Very fast guys at WR, RB and an all time TE. It's not like he has nothing around him. Give me a break. All good QB's have good stuff around them. That's sports. Welcome to life.
Originally posted by Ruixx:
I don't understand why it's only Brock Purdy that having weapons and a good coach is somehow a dig and takes away from his accomplishments. All the anti-Purdy media just skates over that. Because you know, Tua and Mahomes do it all themselves completely with no receivers, tight ends, offensive lines, and coaches.

Mahomes has NO HELP out there.

***Commercial with Travis Kelce***

Absolutely does it all by himself!

***Swift/Kelce coverage***

How does Mahomes get his team to win all the time by only his will?!

***Kelce Commercial #5 of the Game***

Mahomes, man. He does it all!
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by Ruixx:
I don't understand why it's only Brock Purdy that having weapons and a good coach is somehow a dig and takes away from his accomplishments. All the anti-Purdy media just skates over that. Because you know, Tua and Mahomes do it all themselves completely with no receivers, tight ends, offensive lines, and coaches.

Mahomes has NO HELP out there.

***Commercial with Travis Kelce***

Absolutely does it all by himself!

***Swift/Kelce coverage***

How does Mahomes get his team to win all the time by only his will?!

***Kelce Commercial #5 of the Game***

Mahomes, man. He does it all!

Tell me how Kelce is a TE? I don't think I saw him at the TE position on 1 play last night.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by Ruixx:
I don't understand why it's only Brock Purdy that having weapons and a good coach is somehow a dig and takes away from his accomplishments. All the anti-Purdy media just skates over that. Because you know, Tua and Mahomes do it all themselves completely with no receivers, tight ends, offensive lines, and coaches.

Mahomes has NO HELP out there.

***Commercial with Travis Kelce***

Absolutely does it all by himself!

***Swift/Kelce coverage***

How does Mahomes get his team to win all the time by only his will?!

***Kelce Commercial #5 of the Game***

Mahomes, man. He does it all!

Tell me how Kelce is a TE? I don't think I saw him at the TE position on 1 play last night.

In Oscars speak, it's category fraud at this point.
[ Edited by captveg on Oct 13, 2023 at 11:30 AM ]
I think a lot of the discourse is all over the place because everyone has broad definitions of what makes someone an elite QB. That's a whole discussion in it of itself.

But I want to say that Brock does have one elite trait that makes him perhaps the best QB in the league for our system--- his Anticipation. People aren't recognizing it, but if you look at the film, it's why he and the offense are flourishing. Brock's able to get the ball to the receivers perfectly on time. Defenders aren't able to react to it fast enough, and our receivers can make big plays because of it.
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
He wasn't worried about Trey

Perhaps. Probably wasn't worried about Jimmy in practice either seeing him throw interceptions like they are going out of style.

Etiher way its a damn fairytale.
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Ruixx:
I don't understand why it's only Brock Purdy that having weapons and a good coach is somehow a dig and takes away from his accomplishments. All the anti-Purdy media just skates over that. Because you know, Tua and Mahomes do it all themselves completely with no receivers, tight ends, offensive lines, and coaches.

Everyone on Tua's team runs a 4.2. He has the Olympic track team out there. That doesn't help him somehow? Yes it does obviously. Mahomes has outstanding talent for all his career and a great coach. Very fast guys at WR, RB and an all time TE. It's not like he has nothing around him. Give me a break. All good QB's have good stuff around them. That's sports. Welcome to life.

Yes, that is my point, thank you.
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
Shannon Sharpe had too many hits to the head if he can't see that Brock is elite. if it was all Shanahan every loser before Brock would've been top tier too and they weren't

That's strange, he's been heavy on the praise for weeks. Must need clicks. Also, someone on the team mentioned that Purdy's arm is still only about %90 and will get better as he heals up fully.

Who said his arm isn't 100%
Originally posted by Wubbie:
I think a lot of the discourse is all over the place because everyone has broad definitions of what makes someone an elite QB. That's a whole discussion in it of itself.

But I want to say that Brock does have one elite trait that makes him perhaps the best QB in the league for our system--- his Anticipation. People aren't recognizing it, but if you look at the film, it's why he and the offense are flourishing. Brock's able to get the ball to the receivers perfectly on time. Defenders aren't able to react to it fast enough, and our receivers can make big plays because of it.

From the shoulder pads up is what makes Brock elite. Between the ears. Everything he does there. Fans don't always see that or understand. But I think a lot of coaches, players and ex players do. Processing pre and post snap. Going through reads and progressions at lightning speed. Elite anticipation and timing. Making the right decision. Getting the ball out quick. Having great mechanics and throwing an accurate ball that can easily be caught usually in stride.
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Originally posted by Wubbie:
I think a lot of the discourse is all over the place because everyone has broad definitions of what makes someone an elite QB. That's a whole discussion in it of itself.

But I want to say that Brock does have one elite trait that makes him perhaps the best QB in the league for our system--- his Anticipation. People aren't recognizing it, but if you look at the film, it's why he and the offense are flourishing. Brock's able to get the ball to the receivers perfectly on time. Defenders aren't able to react to it fast enough, and our receivers can make big plays because of it.

It is so incredible to watch and it's also just an amazing testament to the team that he has that trust you can see in his guys being in the right spot, he can anticipate exactly where they will be and throw it perfectly giving them the YAC opportunity as well. I mean just I could watch the Dallas game forever and still marvel at his ability to do this.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Wubbie:
I think a lot of the discourse is all over the place because everyone has broad definitions of what makes someone an elite QB. That's a whole discussion in it of itself.

But I want to say that Brock does have one elite trait that makes him perhaps the best QB in the league for our system--- his Anticipation. People aren't recognizing it, but if you look at the film, it's why he and the offense are flourishing. Brock's able to get the ball to the receivers perfectly on time. Defenders aren't able to react to it fast enough, and our receivers can make big plays because of it.

From the shoulder pads up is what makes Brock elite. Between the ears. Everything he does there. Fans don't always see that or understand. But I think a lot of coaches, players and ex players do. Processing pre and post snap. Going through reads and progressions at lightning speed. Elite anticipation and timing. Making the right decision. Getting the ball out quick. Having great mechanics and throwing an accurate ball that can easily be caught usually in stride.

Brock is a f**king genius
The end
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Wubbie:
I think a lot of the discourse is all over the place because everyone has broad definitions of what makes someone an elite QB. That's a whole discussion in it of itself.

But I want to say that Brock does have one elite trait that makes him perhaps the best QB in the league for our system--- his Anticipation. People aren't recognizing it, but if you look at the film, it's why he and the offense are flourishing. Brock's able to get the ball to the receivers perfectly on time. Defenders aren't able to react to it fast enough, and our receivers can make big plays because of it.

From the shoulder pads up is what makes Brock elite. Between the ears. Everything he does there. Fans don't always see that or understand. But I think a lot of coaches, players and ex players do. Processing pre and post snap. Going through reads and progressions at lightning speed. Elite anticipation and timing. Making the right decision. Getting the ball out quick. Having great mechanics and throwing an accurate ball that can easily be caught usually in stride.

I think the media 'analysts' that aren't impressed with what Brock is doing are watching the throw itself and not what it takes to make that throw. Meaning, they see a 15 yard throw over the middle and think, "anyone can make that throw, it's not hard". What they don't recognize is the mental work that has to take place to pull the trigger on that throw. They are looking at his throws in a vacuum.

They seem more impressed when a QB misses the window to throw on rhythm, which then forces the QB to escape the rush, throw on the run from an unorthodox arm slot, and think, "wow that was so elite!". Meanwhile, had Brock executed that same playcall, the throw is out on time once he completes his dropback. It looks easy because Brock makes it look easy, not because it is easy. You'd think that after recently watching JFields/ZWilson struggle to read defenses that they would understand that Brock does not struggle to read defenses.
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Wubbie:
I think a lot of the discourse is all over the place because everyone has broad definitions of what makes someone an elite QB. That's a whole discussion in it of itself.

But I want to say that Brock does have one elite trait that makes him perhaps the best QB in the league for our system--- his Anticipation. People aren't recognizing it, but if you look at the film, it's why he and the offense are flourishing. Brock's able to get the ball to the receivers perfectly on time. Defenders aren't able to react to it fast enough, and our receivers can make big plays because of it.

From the shoulder pads up is what makes Brock elite. Between the ears. Everything he does there. Fans don't always see that or understand. But I think a lot of coaches, players and ex players do. Processing pre and post snap. Going through reads and progressions at lightning speed. Elite anticipation and timing. Making the right decision. Getting the ball out quick. Having great mechanics and throwing an accurate ball that can easily be caught usually in stride.

I think the media 'analysts' that aren't impressed with what Brock is doing are watching the throw itself and not what it takes to make that throw. Meaning, they see a 15 yard throw over the middle and think, "anyone can make that throw, it's not hard". What they don't recognize is the mental work that has to take place to pull the trigger on that throw. They are looking at his throws in a vacuum.

They seem more impressed when a QB misses the window to throw on rhythm, which then forces the QB to escape the rush, throw on the run from an unorthodox arm slot, and think, "wow that was so elite!". Meanwhile, had Brock executed that same playcall, the throw is out on time once he completes his dropback. It looks easy because Brock makes it look easy, not because it is easy. You'd think that after recently watching JFields/ZWilson struggle to read defenses that they would understand that Brock does not struggle to read defenses.

Yeah that's a lot of it. I agree. They want to see 75 yard rockets like Justin Herbert. But they don't understand processing and reading a defense, anticipation, timing, mechanics and accuracy are hugely important at QB. Probably more important really.
It's such a weird take for the system qb with people. You want your qb to find the right answer on evey play, maximize your offense. Not every guy can do that. It actually takes skill to do that lol. And you don't want a guy running.around trying to find his own answers. They had to get Steve Young to stop running around so much, maximize the pocket processing in order to get the most out of his offensive weapons. Once he did that,guess.what, he became a system qb that can hurt defenses in and out of the pocket.
[ Edited by qnnhan7 on Oct 13, 2023 at 11:47 AM ]
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
It's such a weird take for the system qb with people. You want your qb to find the right answer on evey play, maximize your offense. Not every guy can do that. It actually takes skill to do that lol. And you don't want a guy running.around trying to find his own answers. They had to get Steve Young to stop running around so much, maximize the pocket processing in order to get the most out of his offensive weapons. Once he did that,guess.what, he became a system qb that can hurt defenses in and out of the pocket.

That's right.
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