QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
The only MVP I want him to win is Super Bowl MVP.

Co-signed. If he wins league MVP his next contract will be that much more expensive.

I'm rooting for BP to do as well as he can, not for him to do so so to save us some coin down the road lol, he's already saving us massive coin for his first four years

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Remember before the Cowboys game, people we're saying the vaunted Cowboys defense gonna be the measure we judge Brock Purdy? Well after 4 TDs, 144.4 qb rating, me think the goal post been moved on Brock. It's now the Cowboys defense might be overrated and Brock Purdy just managed to get the ball to his many offensive weapons without turning the ball over.

It's the same understated argument against Montana when he was dealing all through the 80's. Well, he has Walsh's offense and all these weapons. All he's doing is throwing them the ball.

What we saw with Montana, we thought he has this calm cool qb under all types of game pressure, just getting it done. We marveled at that. But what's really happening is, he has the ability to consistently find the answer on every play, and make good decisions most of the time. So that, even under tremendous pressure, all he's doing is finding the answer on each play, string them together, and suddenly he's giving you a game winning drive. He doesn't make it into anything more than that. Brock mentioned this about his play also. He's just trying to find the open guy, and throw it to the open guy.

So if people wonder and want to see if Brock has the comeback DNA. Sound like he does.

Brock doesn't need comeback DNA because he has blowout DNA.

Yep, we don't need Brock to throw 4 int in the first half and try to come back like what Trevor Lawrence did last season.

I am good with the zero int thrown this season so far.

Originally posted by libertyforever:
Yep, we don't need Brock to throw 4 int in the first half and try to come back like what Trevor Lawrence did last season.

I am good with the zero int thrown this season so far.

Nobody WANTS to see Purdy pull a stinker....but the fact of the matter is, sooner or later he's gonna be faced with scenarios where the game has to fall far more on his shoulders, and he's gonna have to pull it out in the end. Those are situations that separate the good from the great, the great from the all timers. We haven't seen it from BP yet. I look forward to those opportunities before I can truly judge him.

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by libertyforever:
Yep, we don't need Brock to throw 4 int in the first half and try to come back like what Trevor Lawrence did last season.

I am good with the zero int thrown this season so far.

Nobody WANTS to see Purdy pull a stinker....but the fact of the matter is, sooner or later he's gonna be faced with scenarios where the game has to fall far more on his shoulders, and he's gonna have to pull it out in the end. Those are situations that separate the good from the great, the great from the all timers. We haven't seen it from BP yet. I look forward to those opportunities before I can truly judge him.

But what if he's playing so good he doesn't even put himself in those situations? He's shown a little grit in the Dallas playoff game, the raiders game and a couple others. He's also been apart of so many blowouts, but they didn't start as blowouts. The score always starts at 0-0 and he gets us up by double digits early

Originally posted by RickyRoma:
Nobody WANTS to see Purdy pull a stinker....but the fact of the matter is, sooner or later he's gonna be faced with scenarios where the game has to fall far more on his shoulders, and he's gonna have to pull it out in the end. Those are situations that separate the good from the great, the great from the all timers. We haven't seen it from BP yet. I look forward to those opportunities before I can truly judge him.

They should allow him to go no huddle 2 min offense from the jump, to throw the other team off and to prep for those moments.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Remember before the Cowboys game, people we're saying the vaunted Cowboys defense gonna be the measure we judge Brock Purdy? Well after 4 TDs, 144.4 qb rating, me think the goal post been moved on Brock. It's now the Cowboys defense might be overrated and Brock Purdy just managed to get the ball to his many offensive weapons without turning the ball over.

It's the same understated argument against Montana when he was dealing all through the 80's. Well, he has Walsh's offense and all these weapons. All he's doing is throwing them the ball.

What we saw with Montana, we thought he has this calm cool qb under all types of game pressure, just getting it done. We marveled at that. But what's really happening is, he has the ability to consistently find the answer on every play, and make good decisions most of the time. So that, even under tremendous pressure, all he's doing is finding the answer on each play, string them together, and suddenly he's giving you a game winning drive. He doesn't make it into anything more than that. Brock mentioned this about his play also. He's just trying to find the open guy, and throw it to the open guy.

So if people wonder and want to see if Brock has the comeback DNA. Sound like he does.

Brock doesn't need comeback DNA because he has blowout DNA.

Don't need to come from behind if you're always outscoring the opponent!

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by libertyforever:
Yep, we don't need Brock to throw 4 int in the first half and try to come back like what Trevor Lawrence did last season.

I am good with the zero int thrown this season so far.

Nobody WANTS to see Purdy pull a stinker....but the fact of the matter is, sooner or later he's gonna be faced with scenarios where the game has to fall far more on his shoulders, and he's gonna have to pull it out in the end. Those are situations that separate the good from the great, the great from the all timers. We haven't seen it from BP yet. I look forward to those opportunities before I can truly judge him.

Hypothetically, what if Brock doesn't have a bad game the next 2 seasons. Would you still reserved that judgement...

Because what I thought I knew about what a young rookie and 2nd year qb has to go through to play at the highest level in the NFL, Brock Purdy has shattered and makes me rethink my foolish thoughts .

That would be wild and not sure I would put it past Purdy.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by RickyRoma:
Nobody WANTS to see Purdy pull a stinker....but the fact of the matter is, sooner or later he's gonna be faced with scenarios where the game has to fall far more on his shoulders, and he's gonna have to pull it out in the end. Those are situations that separate the good from the great, the great from the all timers. We haven't seen it from BP yet. I look forward to those opportunities before I can truly judge him.

They should allow him to go no huddle 2 min offense from the jump, to throw the other team off and to prep for those moments.

I like the methodical pace of our offense. They're getting huge chunk plays routinely, but it almost always feels like we're marching down the field rather than 70 yard Dolphins touchdown runs and passes. Gives our defense time to compose themselves and take a breather. The hurry up ended up being a big problem for so many of those Chip Kelly teams because any time they're 3 and out or have a short drive, the defense gets put right back out on the field.

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by thl408:
I think the media 'analysts' that aren't impressed with what Brock is doing are watching the throw itself and not what it takes to make that throw. Meaning, they see a 15 yard throw over the middle and think, "anyone can make that throw, it's not hard". What they don't recognize is the mental work that has to take place to pull the trigger on that throw. They are looking at his throws in a vacuum.

They seem more impressed when a QB misses the window to throw on rhythm, which then forces the QB to escape the rush, throw on the run from an unorthodox arm slot, and think, "wow that was so elite!". Meanwhile, had Brock executed that same playcall, the throw is out on time once he completes his dropback. It looks easy because Brock makes it look easy, not because it is easy. You'd think that after recently watching JFields/ZWilson struggle to read defenses that they would understand that Brock does not struggle to read defenses.

This is spot on

Exactly, QBs that read defenses and throw on time get penalized where as genetically gifted QBs that miss reads and are late have the running / arm strength talent to make a spectacular play.

In short, making plays more difficult is rewarded.

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by libertyforever:
Yep, we don't need Brock to throw 4 int in the first half and try to come back like what Trevor Lawrence did last season.

I am good with the zero int thrown this season so far.

Nobody WANTS to see Purdy pull a stinker....but the fact of the matter is, sooner or later he's gonna be faced with scenarios where the game has to fall far more on his shoulders, and he's gonna have to pull it out in the end. Those are situations that separate the good from the great, the great from the all timers. We haven't seen it from BP yet. I look forward to those opportunities before I can truly judge him.

This is true, there will be a time where he needs to come back in a game to win. We are already putting a lot on his shoulders and he's executing and the team is executing.

When the time comes where we are down it'll be because he made mistakes, players fumbled, special teams crapped out, defense got beat. We won't be putting more on his shoulders we'll be expecting him to keep doing what he's done so far this season to get us out of it.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Last nite, KC vs DEN, we saw a clinic put on by Kelce and how he makes Mahomes so successful. Whether on a route or not, what he does is hang around or move to an open area if #15 gets in trouble. If anyone didn't recognize it, you have seen it often enough, because that is exactly what CMC does for Brock. Isolate on him any play he isn't the ball carrier, and you see him hanging around , looking, waiting, for an opening which bales Brock out.

Kelce is a master of it and so is CMC. And Brock knows that if he's in trouble , all he has to do is find any open space in the field and CMC will be there. Huge credit to CMC, but same goes for Brock who KNOWS his man will get him out of trouble. When #85 isn't blocking, he also will find an open slot , but on a play by play basis, CMC is Brock's get-out-of-jail card.

Kelce has actually talked about this on his podcast - he's learned how to get open for mahommes in just about any situation - they have great chemistry and know what to do.

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by libertyforever:
Yep, we don't need Brock to throw 4 int in the first half and try to come back like what Trevor Lawrence did last season.

I am good with the zero int thrown this season so far.

Nobody WANTS to see Purdy pull a stinker....but the fact of the matter is, sooner or later he's gonna be faced with scenarios where the game has to fall far more on his shoulders, and he's gonna have to pull it out in the end. Those are situations that separate the good from the great, the great from the all timers. We haven't seen it from BP yet. I look forward to those opportunities before I can truly judge him.

First of all, he's carried the team and/or came through in clutch situations for us. He did it against the raiders last year and he did it against the first half Vs the rams. That scoring drive was clutch and important for the outcome of that game - gave us all the momentum going into the half.

it's also very beneficial for a QB to not experience those come from behind wins too early in their career because the more experience he gets, chemistry with the players, and defenses he plays - the better he will be in those situations in the future. So I'm glad he hasn't had many of them, every game he's been more and more primed to succeed when they show up.

He's also shown a lot to make you have confidence that he will succeed in those situations but the reality is that we probably won't have many in the next year or two. He was clutch against the cowboys (playoffs) and a few other games he's led long drives to ice the game and make sure the other team couldn't get the ball back. Those are all clutch drives.

the kid doesn't get rattled. He's so steady that I 100% he can pull off a game winning drive if he has to but this team is so stacked that if we are playing like we should, we will blow 90% of teams out.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by libertyforever:
Yep, we don't need Brock to throw 4 int in the first half and try to come back like what Trevor Lawrence did last season.

I am good with the zero int thrown this season so far.

Nobody WANTS to see Purdy pull a stinker....but the fact of the matter is, sooner or later he's gonna be faced with scenarios where the game has to fall far more on his shoulders, and he's gonna have to pull it out in the end. Those are situations that separate the good from the great, the great from the all timers. We haven't seen it from BP yet. I look forward to those opportunities before I can truly judge him.

First of all, he's carried the team and/or came through in clutch situations for us. He did it against the raiders last year and he did it against the first half Vs the rams. That scoring drive was clutch and important for the outcome of that game - gave us all the momentum going into the half.

it's also very beneficial for a QB to not experience those come from behind wins too early in their career because the more experience he gets, chemistry with the players, and defenses he plays - the better he will be in those situations in the future. So I'm glad he hasn't had many of them, every game he's been more and more primed to succeed when they show up.

He's also shown a lot to make you have confidence that he will succeed in those situations but the reality is that we probably won't have many in the next year or two. He was clutch against the cowboys (playoffs) and a few other games he's led long drives to ice the game and make sure the other team couldn't get the ball back. Those are all clutch drives.

the kid doesn't get rattled. He's so steady that I 100% he can pull off a game winning drive if he has to but this team is so stacked that if we are playing like we should, we will blow 90% of teams out.

Also, how clutch was that early 3rd qtr against the Cowboys, after they made it 10-21 with a FG.

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by thl408:
I think the media 'analysts' that aren't impressed with what Brock is doing are watching the throw itself and not what it takes to make that throw. Meaning, they see a 15 yard throw over the middle and think, "anyone can make that throw, it's not hard". What they don't recognize is the mental work that has to take place to pull the trigger on that throw. They are looking at his throws in a vacuum.

They seem more impressed when a QB misses the window to throw on rhythm, which then forces the QB to escape the rush, throw on the run from an unorthodox arm slot, and think, "wow that was so elite!". Meanwhile, had Brock executed that same playcall, the throw is out on time once he completes his dropback. It looks easy because Brock makes it look easy, not because it is easy. You'd think that after recently watching JFields/ZWilson struggle to read defenses that they would understand that Brock does not struggle to read defenses.

This is spot on

It really is. A lot of ESPN etc. "analysts" are struggling with takes this week but I've heard the tide turning for sure and heard a few "elite" and "FQB" labels, mostly by Orlosky.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
The only MVP I want him to win is Super Bowl MVP.

Co-signed. If he wins league MVP his next contract will be that much more expensive.

I'm rooting for BP to do as well as he can, not for him to do so so to save us some coin down the road lol, he's already saving us massive coin for his first four years

Yeah, if Brock continues the play, come 2025 he's gonna get PAID, big time, and I have no worry that the 49ers won't pay Brock top tier QB money, but I can envision a scenario where Brock isn't greedy, and takes less, or structures it real team friendly so the team can keep their core together, Purdy is great and all, but he knows he's even better with the talent he has, not saying what Sharpe or Ruiz say, I believe Purdy is elite, and a top 10-15 QB, on the cusp of being a top 5 QB, right there with Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts, guys like that. No he isn't Mahomes, but he's damn near close.