Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Clearly a bust, they now have his replacement.
Good job.
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Clearly a bust, they now have his replacement.
Originally posted by tankle104:
Kyle said:
"He can throw it. I mean, he's very accurate," Shanahan said. "He knows when to throw it. He knows where to throw. I mean, it's not much different in practice as it is in the games, but you know, people talk about Brock's arm strength.
"Brock can make any throw on the field in the timing of the play. You know, he's not going to sit there and be really late and take a bunch of hitches, staring something down, and just throw to the opposite side, 70 yards. Not many people in the world are going to do that, but that's also usually a bad decision when you do that. What's great about Brock is he wants the big play. He's aggressive for the big play and he can see it in the timing of the play, so he's not going to force anything. But when it's there and our play is going there, he doesn't hesitate. It goes there every time the coverage gives him that.
And if they're back at all taking that away, he doesn't hesitate to the second level and he doesn't hesitate to the bottom. So Brock is fun to call plays for because you can get aggressive and you know he'll take it if it shows because that's what you work on and you talk all week, but you're also not scared to call it because if it doesn't show, he's not, usually not, going to force it. He's going to see right away what you've been talking about, know that's not the look, and get the ball to someone underneath. And when we get balls to people underneath, we usually make some big plays, too, because we got some talented guys who can run with it."
Originally posted by tankle104:
Some true statements about Brock Purdy that #49ers fans need to accept and not be offended by:
— Michael Andrews (@MikeAndrews83) October 14, 2023
1. He is not elite (yet)
2. He is a system QB (that's okay, most are)
3. His numbers wouldn't look as good w/o his supporting cast (so what)
4. We need to see more (and want to) pic.twitter.com/e9TfDMrfpM
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Ummmm. He played at Iowa State. They have BAD weather. He dealt with it for 4 years.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by All22:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Ruixx:
I don't understand why it's only Brock Purdy that having weapons and a good coach is somehow a dig and takes away from his accomplishments. All the anti-Purdy media just skates over that. Because you know, Tua and Mahomes do it all themselves completely with no receivers, tight ends, offensive lines, and coaches.
Everyone on Tua's team runs a 4.2. He has the Olympic track team out there. That doesn't help him somehow? Yes it does obviously. Mahomes has outstanding talent for all his career and a great coach. Very fast guys at WR, RB and an all time TE. It's not like he has nothing around him. Give me a break. All good QB's have good stuff around them. That's sports. Welcome to life.
Shannon Sharpe mentioning Tua is hilarious. He's in the same exact system with (arguably) better receivers.
Tua's played some good ball overall. Why do we have to downgrade one guy to hoist another? That's always been so corny to me.
I feel the same way. I honestly believe that MVP will ultimately come down to him and Brock and may the better QB win.
Tua has played some good ball but if anyone is being carried - it's tua. I think he's shown that when the team needs him most, he caves. Brock has had many opportunities to show it but when he has, he's showed out.
raiders game, Dallas playoff game he came through, first half ending drive against the rams was incredible. Stuff like that shows that the QB can be relied upon.
dolphins are soft to me. They crumble when the defense is too physical. That's the biggest difference between their WR/TE and ours, IMO. Ours love to be physical and violent - theirs are more finesse and used to just beating everyone with speed.
Inspite of all your reasons, Tua is still a top MVP candidate. His stats rival that of Brock's as they are neck and neck on damn near every category. Brock does beat him in almost all of the important one's but not by much. Yes. Brock has shown more in tougher situations in tougher games but Tua was a winning QB before Mike McDaniel became the HC. He has a career record of 28-14. Obviously if I had a vote for MVP it would be Brock through these first 5 games. I also believe that Brock has a better chance of winning a SB because we have a top defense and Tua does not.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Ummmm. He played at Iowa State. They have BAD weather. He dealt with it for 4 years.
Spent a winter in Iowa once. Can confirm. Was not pleasant.
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by All22:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Ruixx:
I don't understand why it's only Brock Purdy that having weapons and a good coach is somehow a dig and takes away from his accomplishments. All the anti-Purdy media just skates over that. Because you know, Tua and Mahomes do it all themselves completely with no receivers, tight ends, offensive lines, and coaches.
Everyone on Tua's team runs a 4.2. He has the Olympic track team out there. That doesn't help him somehow? Yes it does obviously. Mahomes has outstanding talent for all his career and a great coach. Very fast guys at WR, RB and an all time TE. It's not like he has nothing around him. Give me a break. All good QB's have good stuff around them. That's sports. Welcome to life.
Shannon Sharpe mentioning Tua is hilarious. He's in the same exact system with (arguably) better receivers.
Tua's played some good ball overall. Why do we have to downgrade one guy to hoist another? That's always been so corny to me.
I feel the same way. I honestly believe that MVP will ultimately come down to him and Brock and may the better QB win.
Tua has played some good ball but if anyone is being carried - it's tua. I think he's shown that when the team needs him most, he caves. Brock has had many opportunities to show it but when he has, he's showed out.
raiders game, Dallas playoff game he came through, first half ending drive against the rams was incredible. Stuff like that shows that the QB can be relied upon.
dolphins are soft to me. They crumble when the defense is too physical. That's the biggest difference between their WR/TE and ours, IMO. Ours love to be physical and violent - theirs are more finesse and used to just beating everyone with speed.
Inspite of all your reasons, Tua is still a top MVP candidate. His stats rival that of Brock's as they are neck and neck on damn near every category. Brock does beat him in almost all of the important one's but not by much. Yes. Brock has shown more in tougher situations in tougher games but Tua was a winning QB before Mike McDaniel became the HC. He has a career record of 28-14. Obviously if I had a vote for MVP it would be Brock through these first 5 games. I also believe that Brock has a better chance of winning a SB because we have a top defense and Tua does not.
Tua panics if you pressure him. That's why good defenses beat them down. Brock seems calmer under fire than Tua. That Dolphins defense is what will keep them from going far.
I think the best way to answer this is this table looking at CPOE at each level of the field, so you can see how often QBs complete passes over what's expected when throwing short, intermediate, deep, and behind the LOS https://t.co/fOSw1CHCxX pic.twitter.com/IETSYzu2oJ
— Arjun Menon (@arjunmenon100) October 13, 2023
Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:Some true statements about Brock Purdy that #49ers fans need to accept and not be offended by:
— Michael Andrews (@MikeAndrews83) October 14, 2023
1. He is not elite (yet)
2. He is a system QB (that's okay, most are)
3. His numbers wouldn't look as good w/o his supporting cast (so what)
4. We need to see more (and want to) pic.twitter.com/e9TfDMrfpM
Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:
Some true statements about Brock Purdy that #49ers fans need to accept and not be offended by:
— Michael Andrews (@MikeAndrews83) October 14, 2023
1. He is not elite (yet)
2. He is a system QB (that's okay, most are)
3. His numbers wouldn't look as good w/o his supporting cast (so what)
4. We need to see more (and want to) pic.twitter.com/e9TfDMrfpM
Originally posted by tankle104:
Jimmy leads the league and he's missed a game. Lmao horrible. I've watched all of jimmy's games in Vegas and it's changed my perception of him. It's made me realize that I was wrong in regards to how good he was, the system made him play at a higher level because it was protecting him. I think that's why Kyle didn't have certain plays and was more conservative with jimmy, didn't trust him and was protecting Jimmy from the mistakes he makes.
I've always liked jimmy and think he was a solid QB for us but Brock's really opened my eyes to how much Jimmy was holding this offense back and jimmys performance in Vegas has opened my eyes to how great of a coaching job kyle was doing with him.
Originally posted by libertyforever:
I think the best way to answer this is this table looking at CPOE at each level of the field, so you can see how often QBs complete passes over what's expected when throwing short, intermediate, deep, and behind the LOS https://t.co/fOSw1CHCxX pic.twitter.com/IETSYzu2oJ
— Arjun Menon (@arjunmenon100) October 13, 2023
I am very surprised with Brock's CPOE behind the line of scrimmage. Anyone can explain this?
Anyway, Brock has been excellent overall.
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:
Some true statements about Brock Purdy that #49ers fans need to accept and not be offended by:
— Michael Andrews (@MikeAndrews83) October 14, 2023
1. He is not elite (yet)
2. He is a system QB (that's okay, most are)
3. His numbers wouldn't look as good w/o his supporting cast (so what)
4. We need to see more (and want to) pic.twitter.com/e9TfDMrfpM
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