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Originally posted by bud49:
People act like the ball slipping is why the 49ers lost this game. Moody is why this game was lost period. Sure Brock had a bad game, and flash in my 40 something years of watching football I have seen a lot of QB's having trouble handling the ball in the rain. Wow
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:Exactly lot of ball left to play. I do know one thing if Moody misses another one my money is on Kyle and John looking for another kicker.
Originally posted by bud49:
People act like the ball slipping is why the 49ers lost this game. Moody is why this game was lost period. Sure Brock had a bad game, and flash in my 40 something years of watching football I have seen a lot of QB's having trouble handling the ball in the rain. Wow
lots of reasons why the niners lost, but ya, if moody just makes at least 1 of his 2 misses then we aren't having all these doom & gloom arguments.
Originally posted by bud49:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:Exactly lot of ball left to play. I do know one thing if Moody misses another one my money is on Kyle and John looking for another kicker.
Originally posted by bud49:
People act like the ball slipping is why the 49ers lost this game. Moody is why this game was lost period. Sure Brock had a bad game, and flash in my 40 something years of watching football I have seen a lot of QB's having trouble handling the ball in the rain. Wow
lots of reasons why the niners lost, but ya, if moody just makes at least 1 of his 2 misses then we aren't having all these doom & gloom arguments.
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by bud49:
People act like the ball slipping is why the 49ers lost this game. Moody is why this game was lost period. Sure Brock had a bad game, and flash in my 40 something years of watching football I have seen a lot of QB's having trouble handling the ball in the rain. Wow
lots of reasons why the niners lost, but ya, if moody just makes at least 1 of his 2 misses then we aren't having all these doom & gloom arguments.
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Gripping development? There was on and off rain in Brock Purdy's two worst games in terms of completion percentage — last season's playoff opener vs. Seattle and Sunday's loss to the Browns. pic.twitter.com/XVP9dU20BW
— Matt Barrows (@mattbarrows) October 16, 2023
Maybe wear the Kurt Warner glove next time it rains.
So the wildcard Seahawks game is now considered a bad Purdy game? Tons of history revisionist going on in that post
"in terms of completion percentage"
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
I posted in the game day thread at about page 302 that this clip of Brock just means that he should wear a leather glove when ball is wet…a sticky glove like Warner used to use. Good thing to find this out now so that next time ball is wet, Brock will have practiced with a wet ball and the stick glove.
In Paso Robles, playing golf in 110 or 112 degree weather, one tends to sweat a tad. But the golf courses are empty and a guy could play 2 rounds in the afternoon…but absolutely imperative to use a leather glove along with shafts of leather. Same goes for Brock in wet weather and wet ball…gloves are essential, and he definitely needs to get the feel of them practicing with a wet ball.
Besides this complete slip in the photo, there were at least a half dozen passes that got away from him and it looked like he was trying to put extra mustard on several passes which sailed long. I blame those passes on wet ball also. There were also another half dozen passes where ball came off Brock's hand with a wobble and on replay you can see (in two passes for sure)where the ball had already slipped.
Simple problem…simple solution and way better to learn it now than late in season or in playoffs. Still it is imperative, that Brock gets plenty of practice with wet ball and wet leather glove.
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
I posted in the game day thread at about page 302 that this clip of Brock just means that he should wear a leather glove when ball is wet…a sticky glove like Warner used to use. Good thing to find this out now so that next time ball is wet, Brock will have practiced with a wet ball and the stick glove.
In Paso Robles, playing golf in 110 or 112 degree weather, one tends to sweat a tad. But the golf courses are empty and a guy could play 2 rounds in the afternoon…but absolutely imperative to use a leather glove along with shafts of leather. Same goes for Brock in wet weather and wet ball…gloves are essential, and he definitely needs to get the feel of them practicing with a wet ball.
Besides this complete slip in the photo, there were at least a half dozen passes that got away from him and it looked like he was trying to put extra mustard on several passes which sailed long. I blame those passes on wet ball also. There were also another half dozen passes where ball came off Brock's hand with a wobble and on replay you can see (in two passes for sure)where the ball had already slipped.
Simple problem…simple solution and way better to learn it now than late in season or in playoffs. Still it is imperative, that Brock gets plenty of practice with wet ball and wet leather glove.
There's a ton of feel and gripping the ball I may not understand, but maybe he can't feel the ball as well with the glove and loses feel? Again, just speculation, but if it were that simple, wouldn't he have already considered it?
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
I posted in the game day thread at about page 302 that this clip of Brock just means that he should wear a leather glove when ball is wet…a sticky glove like Warner used to use. Good thing to find this out now so that next time ball is wet, Brock will have practiced with a wet ball and the stick glove.
In Paso Robles, playing golf in 110 or 112 degree weather, one tends to sweat a tad. But the golf courses are empty and a guy could play 2 rounds in the afternoon…but absolutely imperative to use a leather glove along with shafts of leather. Same goes for Brock in wet weather and wet ball…gloves are essential, and he definitely needs to get the feel of them practicing with a wet ball.
Besides this complete slip in the photo, there were at least a half dozen passes that got away from him and it looked like he was trying to put extra mustard on several passes which sailed long. I blame those passes on wet ball also. There were also another half dozen passes where ball came off Brock's hand with a wobble and on replay you can see (in two passes for sure)where the ball had already slipped.
Simple problem…simple solution and way better to learn it now than late in season or in playoffs. Still it is imperative, that Brock gets plenty of practice with wet ball and wet leather glove.
There's a ton of feel and gripping the ball I may not understand, but maybe he can't feel the ball as well with the glove and loses feel? Again, just speculation, but if it were that simple, wouldn't he have already considered it?
FREAKIN Griese... he should STOP teaching his QBs to get rid of the ball ASAP even if they aren't holding on the laces.. THIS IS SO WRONG !!!
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
I posted in the game day thread at about page 302 that this clip of Brock just means that he should wear a leather glove when ball is wet…a sticky glove like Warner used to use. Good thing to find this out now so that next time ball is wet, Brock will have practiced with a wet ball and the stick glove.
In Paso Robles, playing golf in 110 or 112 degree weather, one tends to sweat a tad. But the golf courses are empty and a guy could play 2 rounds in the afternoon…but absolutely imperative to use a leather glove along with shafts of leather. Same goes for Brock in wet weather and wet ball…gloves are essential, and he definitely needs to get the feel of them practicing with a wet ball.
Besides this complete slip in the photo, there were at least a half dozen passes that got away from him and it looked like he was trying to put extra mustard on several passes which sailed long. I blame those passes on wet ball also. There were also another half dozen passes where ball came off Brock's hand with a wobble and on replay you can see (in two passes for sure)where the ball had already slipped.
Simple problem…simple solution and way better to learn it now than late in season or in playoffs. Still it is imperative, that Brock gets plenty of practice with wet ball and wet leather glove.
There's a ton of feel and gripping the ball I may not understand, but maybe he can't feel the ball as well with the glove and loses feel? Again, just speculation, but if it were that simple, wouldn't he have already considered it?
FREAKIN Griese... he should STOP teaching his QBs to get rid of the ball ASAP even if they aren't holding on the laces.. THIS IS SO WRONG !!!
How long exactly do you think he has to get rid of it behind this O line? Kyle and Mike never prioritized great pass pro from the O line, rather timing and quickness. Moving the pocket when needed. Not on Griese, he's trying to keep our dude alive.
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
There's a ton of feel and gripping the ball I may not understand, but maybe he can't feel the ball as well with the glove and loses feel? Again, just speculation, but if it were that simple, wouldn't he have already considered it?
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
There's a ton of feel and gripping the ball I may not understand, but maybe he can't feel the ball as well with the glove and loses feel? Again, just speculation, but if it were that simple, wouldn't he have already considered it?
There have been several QBs that have used a glove on their non-throwing hand. I can't recall anyone who consistently wore a glove on their throwing hand. IIRC, Brady tried it once in New England but took it off after one series. He felt he lost too much "feel" of the ball.
On a different level, the balls used for scrimmage play have been heavily massaged with a clay-based substance to give the players a better grip on the ball. That is why the balls used for kicking are a bright reddish color (non-treated) while scrimmage balls are a dark brownish color. The NFL has attendants on the sideline who are charged with keeping the balls as dry as possible. I believe each team is allowed to prepare a dozen or so balls for use during the game in order to keep them as dry and tacky as possible. On hot days, when the players are sweating a lot, the same problem exists but to a lesser degree.
Originally posted by dj43:
There have been several QBs that have used a glove on their non-throwing hand. I can't recall anyone who consistently wore a glove on their throwing hand. IIRC, Brady tried it once in New England but took it off after one series. He felt he lost too much "feel" of the ball.
On a different level, the balls used for scrimmage play have been heavily massaged with a clay-based substance to give the players a better grip on the ball. That is why the balls used for kicking are a bright reddish color (non-treated) while scrimmage balls are a dark brownish color. The NFL has attendants on the sideline who are charged with keeping the balls as dry as possible. I believe each team is allowed to prepare a dozen or so balls for use during the game in order to keep them as dry and tacky as possible. On hot days, when the players are sweating a lot, the same problem exists but to a lesser degree.
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
There's a ton of feel and gripping the ball I may not understand, but maybe he can't feel the ball as well with the glove and loses feel? Again, just speculation, but if it were that simple, wouldn't he have already considered it?
There have been several QBs that have used a glove on their non-throwing hand. I can't recall anyone who consistently wore a glove on their throwing hand. IIRC, Brady tried it once in New England but took it off after one series. He felt he lost too much "feel" of the ball.
On a different level, the balls used for scrimmage play have been heavily massaged with a clay-based substance to give the players a better grip on the ball. That is why the balls used for kicking are a bright reddish color (non-treated) while scrimmage balls are a dark brownish color. The NFL has attendants on the sideline who are charged with keeping the balls as dry as possible. I believe each team is allowed to prepare a dozen or so balls for use during the game in order to keep them as dry and tacky as possible. On hot days, when the players are sweating a lot, the same problem exists but to a lesser degree.
Herbert worn a glove on his left hand against the Cowboys...
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
I posted in the game day thread at about page 302 that this clip of Brock just means that he should wear a leather glove when ball is wet…a sticky glove like Warner used to use. Good thing to find this out now so that next time ball is wet, Brock will have practiced with a wet ball and the stick glove.
In Paso Robles, playing golf in 110 or 112 degree weather, one tends to sweat a tad. But the golf courses are empty and a guy could play 2 rounds in the afternoon…but absolutely imperative to use a leather glove along with shafts of leather. Same goes for Brock in wet weather and wet ball…gloves are essential, and he definitely needs to get the feel of them practicing with a wet ball.
Besides this complete slip in the photo, there were at least a half dozen passes that got away from him and it looked like he was trying to put extra mustard on several passes which sailed long. I blame those passes on wet ball also. There were also another half dozen passes where ball came off Brock's hand with a wobble and on replay you can see (in two passes for sure)where the ball had already slipped.
Simple problem…simple solution and way better to learn it now than late in season or in playoffs. Still it is imperative, that Brock gets plenty of practice with wet ball and wet leather glove.
There's a ton of feel and gripping the ball I may not understand, but maybe he can't feel the ball as well with the glove and loses feel? Again, just speculation, but if it were that simple, wouldn't he have already considered it?
FREAKIN Griese... he should STOP teaching his QBs to get rid of the ball ASAP even if they aren't holding on the laces.. THIS IS SO WRONG !!!
How long exactly do you think he has to get rid of it behind this O line? Kyle and Mike never prioritized great pass pro from the O line, rather timing and quickness. Moving the pocket when needed. Not on Griese, he's trying to keep our dude alive.
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
There's a ton of feel and gripping the ball I may not understand, but maybe he can't feel the ball as well with the glove and loses feel? Again, just speculation, but if it were that simple, wouldn't he have already considered it?
There have been several QBs that have used a glove on their non-throwing hand. I can't recall anyone who consistently wore a glove on their throwing hand. IIRC, Brady tried it once in New England but took it off after one series. He felt he lost too much "feel" of the ball.
On a different level, the balls used for scrimmage play have been heavily massaged with a clay-based substance to give the players a better grip on the ball. That is why the balls used for kicking are a bright reddish color (non-treated) while scrimmage balls are a dark brownish color. The NFL has attendants on the sideline who are charged with keeping the balls as dry as possible. I believe each team is allowed to prepare a dozen or so balls for use during the game in order to keep them as dry and tacky as possible. On hot days, when the players are sweating a lot, the same problem exists but to a lesser degree.