QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
I posted in the game day thread at about page 302 that this clip of Brock just means that he should wear a leather glove when ball is wet…a sticky glove like Warner used to use. Good thing to find this out now so that next time ball is wet, Brock will have practiced with a wet ball and the stick glove.

In Paso Robles, playing golf in 110 or 112 degree weather, one tends to sweat a tad. But the golf courses are empty and a guy could play 2 rounds in the afternoon…but absolutely imperative to use a leather glove along with shafts of leather. Same goes for Brock in wet weather and wet ball…gloves are essential, and he definitely needs to get the feel of them practicing with a wet ball.

Besides this complete slip in the photo, there were at least a half dozen passes that got away from him and it looked like he was trying to put extra mustard on several passes which sailed long. I blame those passes on wet ball also. There were also another half dozen passes where ball came off Brock's hand with a wobble and on replay you can see (in two passes for sure)where the ball had already slipped.

Simple problem…simple solution and way better to learn it now than late in season or in playoffs. Still it is imperative, that Brock gets plenty of practice with wet ball and wet leather glove.

There's a ton of feel and gripping the ball I may not understand, but maybe he can't feel the ball as well with the glove and loses feel? Again, just speculation, but if it were that simple, wouldn't he have already considered it?

FREAKIN Griese... he should STOP teaching his QBs to get rid of the ball ASAP even if they aren't holding on the laces.. THIS IS SO WRONG !!!

How long exactly do you think he has to get rid of it behind this O line? Kyle and Mike never prioritized great pass pro from the O line, rather timing and quickness. Moving the pocket when needed. Not on Griese, he's trying to keep our dude alive.

He has an average of 2.90 seconds before being pressured which ranks 34th out of 35 QB's.

They need to weed out blitzes for that stat (I'm assuming they don't). NYG really cranked up the blitz frequency and I think that skews the pressure rate stat because of course a QB is more likely to get pressured on blitzes.

Originally posted by 9moon:
Griese is the QB Coach and he was once an AVERAGE QB... and he knows best to NOT be throwing the football w/o fingers on the laces.. i don't care if others are doing it, but it should be a mandatory for him to teach his QB that especially on bad weathers..

It is best to have the fingers on the laces, however, it is not uncommon for QBs to catch and throw the ball without taking time to rotate the ball to contact the laces.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
I posted in the game day thread at about page 302 that this clip of Brock just means that he should wear a leather glove when ball is wet…a sticky glove like Warner used to use. Good thing to find this out now so that next time ball is wet, Brock will have practiced with a wet ball and the stick glove.

In Paso Robles, playing golf in 110 or 112 degree weather, one tends to sweat a tad. But the golf courses are empty and a guy could play 2 rounds in the afternoon…but absolutely imperative to use a leather glove along with shafts of leather. Same goes for Brock in wet weather and wet ball…gloves are essential, and he definitely needs to get the feel of them practicing with a wet ball.

Besides this complete slip in the photo, there were at least a half dozen passes that got away from him and it looked like he was trying to put extra mustard on several passes which sailed long. I blame those passes on wet ball also. There were also another half dozen passes where ball came off Brock's hand with a wobble and on replay you can see (in two passes for sure)where the ball had already slipped.

Simple problem…simple solution and way better to learn it now than late in season or in playoffs. Still it is imperative, that Brock gets plenty of practice with wet ball and wet leather glove.

There's a ton of feel and gripping the ball I may not understand, but maybe he can't feel the ball as well with the glove and loses feel? Again, just speculation, but if it were that simple, wouldn't he have already considered it?

FREAKIN Griese... he should STOP teaching his QBs to get rid of the ball ASAP even if they aren't holding on the laces.. THIS IS SO WRONG !!!

How long exactly do you think he has to get rid of it behind this O line? Kyle and Mike never prioritized great pass pro from the O line, rather timing and quickness. Moving the pocket when needed. Not on Griese, he's trying to keep our dude alive.

He has an average of 2.90 seconds before being pressured which ranks 34th out of 35 QB's.

I'm in full agreement with SLC above, and think Griese has done a spectacular job. As for YAC's stat, that is stunning. I had no idea Brock was holding 2.9 secs before he got pressured. Says a lot for the OL, but also for Brock moving his throwing platform around to gain more time.

As for the loss, Brock brot his team back for the winning FG. Not his fault if it didn't go thru. I don't like pointing fingers at any one person or group, but that is the way of FG kickers…do or die. But we were getting handled in other ways, one of which was with their run game. With wide 9s (as Giedi posted before game), it makes it easier for opponents to run on us…and they took advantage of that. Additionally, it seemed that a 3rd string QB sure completed a lot of passes …but i didn't check on the stats.

Only good thing i can think of is that if we had to lose a game, a game we were supposed to win…it is better now than in NFCCG or SB. This was a good wake up call. Between Wet ball and leather glove, wide 9s, lots of completions for a 3rd string QB…there's some things to work on. First time in a long time but at game's end, i had the feeling we got outcoached…both O and D. Still as time expired, we had the winning FG teed up …it just didn't go thru.

Things couldn't have been as bad as it seemed at the time. And one cannot ignore the fact that we were missing two of our all pro players, Deebo and CMC (who played some until oblique injury) . Guys who Brock knows to throw to, where, when, how fast, how much lead…when you replace those, don't expect Brock to be as successful with guys he doesn't normally throw to, and whose route running may be different from those he is used to.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
I posted in the game day thread at about page 302 that this clip of Brock just means that he should wear a leather glove when ball is wet…a sticky glove like Warner used to use. Good thing to find this out now so that next time ball is wet, Brock will have practiced with a wet ball and the stick glove.

In Paso Robles, playing golf in 110 or 112 degree weather, one tends to sweat a tad. But the golf courses are empty and a guy could play 2 rounds in the afternoon…but absolutely imperative to use a leather glove along with shafts of leather. Same goes for Brock in wet weather and wet ball…gloves are essential, and he definitely needs to get the feel of them practicing with a wet ball.

Besides this complete slip in the photo, there were at least a half dozen passes that got away from him and it looked like he was trying to put extra mustard on several passes which sailed long. I blame those passes on wet ball also. There were also another half dozen passes where ball came off Brock's hand with a wobble and on replay you can see (in two passes for sure)where the ball had already slipped.

Simple problem…simple solution and way better to learn it now than late in season or in playoffs. Still it is imperative, that Brock gets plenty of practice with wet ball and wet leather glove.

There's a ton of feel and gripping the ball I may not understand, but maybe he can't feel the ball as well with the glove and loses feel? Again, just speculation, but if it were that simple, wouldn't he have already considered it?

FREAKIN Griese... he should STOP teaching his QBs to get rid of the ball ASAP even if they aren't holding on the laces.. THIS IS SO WRONG !!!

How long exactly do you think he has to get rid of it behind this O line? Kyle and Mike never prioritized great pass pro from the O line, rather timing and quickness. Moving the pocket when needed. Not on Griese, he's trying to keep our dude alive.

He has an average of 2.90 seconds before being pressured which ranks 34th out of 35 QB's.

Whoa! Where do you find all of these stats?

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
As for the loss, Brock brot his team back for the winning FG. Not his fault if it didn't go thru. I don't like pointing fingers at any one person or group, but that is the way of FG kickers…do or die. But we were getting handled in other ways, one of which was with their run game. With wide 9s (as Giedi posted before game), it makes it easier for opponents to run on us…and they took advantage of that. Additionally, it seemed that a 3rd string QB sure completed a lot of passes …but i didn't check on the stats.

Only good thing i can think of is that if we had to lose a game, a game we were supposed to win…it is better now than in NFCCG or SB. This was a good wake up call. Between Wet ball and leather glove, wide 9s, lots of completions for a 3rd string QB…there's some things to work on. First time in a long time but at game's end, i had the feeling we got outcoached…both O and D. Still as time expired, we had the winning FG teed up …it just didn't go thru.

Things couldn't have been as bad as it seemed at the time. And one cannot ignore the fact that we were missing two of our all pro players, Deebo and CMC (who played some until oblique injury) . Guys who Brock knows to throw to, where, when, how fast, how much lead…when you replace those, don't expect Brock to be as successful with guys he doesn't normally throw to, and whose route running may be different from those he is used to.

There was some of that. The fact the Browns ran on us as they did indicates a coaching issue. However, as Jonnydel pointed out in his film analysis, there were numerous chunk plays that were there for the taking but for poor execution (blame shared around, even by Trent Williams) were not completed. We can't expect perfection from every player on every play, however, more mistakes were made in this game than would normally happen.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
I posted in the game day thread at about page 302 that this clip of Brock just means that he should wear a leather glove when ball is wet…a sticky glove like Warner used to use. Good thing to find this out now so that next time ball is wet, Brock will have practiced with a wet ball and the stick glove.

In Paso Robles, playing golf in 110 or 112 degree weather, one tends to sweat a tad. But the golf courses are empty and a guy could play 2 rounds in the afternoon…but absolutely imperative to use a leather glove along with shafts of leather. Same goes for Brock in wet weather and wet ball…gloves are essential, and he definitely needs to get the feel of them practicing with a wet ball.

Besides this complete slip in the photo, there were at least a half dozen passes that got away from him and it looked like he was trying to put extra mustard on several passes which sailed long. I blame those passes on wet ball also. There were also another half dozen passes where ball came off Brock's hand with a wobble and on replay you can see (in two passes for sure)where the ball had already slipped.

Simple problem…simple solution and way better to learn it now than late in season or in playoffs. Still it is imperative, that Brock gets plenty of practice with wet ball and wet leather glove.

There's a ton of feel and gripping the ball I may not understand, but maybe he can't feel the ball as well with the glove and loses feel? Again, just speculation, but if it were that simple, wouldn't he have already considered it?

FREAKIN Griese... he should STOP teaching his QBs to get rid of the ball ASAP even if they aren't holding on the laces.. THIS IS SO WRONG !!!

How long exactly do you think he has to get rid of it behind this O line? Kyle and Mike never prioritized great pass pro from the O line, rather timing and quickness. Moving the pocket when needed. Not on Griese, he's trying to keep our dude alive.

He has an average of 2.90 seconds before being pressured which ranks 34th out of 35 QB's.

They need to weed out blitzes for that stat (I'm assuming they don't). NYG really cranked up the blitz frequency and I think that skews the pressure rate stat because of course a QB is more likely to get pressured on blitzes.

Okay? So no other QB has been blitzed in the NFL? Giants blitzed us and no one else?

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by 9moon:
Griese is the QB Coach and he was once an AVERAGE QB... and he knows best to NOT be throwing the football w/o fingers on the laces.. i don't care if others are doing it, but it should be a mandatory for him to teach his QB that especially on bad weathers..

It is best to have the fingers on the laces, however, it is not uncommon for QBs to catch and throw the ball without taking time to rotate the ball to contact the laces.

Getting the ball out quick against a fierce pass rush is also important. Maybe more so.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
I posted in the game day thread at about page 302 that this clip of Brock just means that he should wear a leather glove when ball is wet…a sticky glove like Warner used to use. Good thing to find this out now so that next time ball is wet, Brock will have practiced with a wet ball and the stick glove.

In Paso Robles, playing golf in 110 or 112 degree weather, one tends to sweat a tad. But the golf courses are empty and a guy could play 2 rounds in the afternoon…but absolutely imperative to use a leather glove along with shafts of leather. Same goes for Brock in wet weather and wet ball…gloves are essential, and he definitely needs to get the feel of them practicing with a wet ball.

Besides this complete slip in the photo, there were at least a half dozen passes that got away from him and it looked like he was trying to put extra mustard on several passes which sailed long. I blame those passes on wet ball also. There were also another half dozen passes where ball came off Brock's hand with a wobble and on replay you can see (in two passes for sure)where the ball had already slipped.

Simple problem…simple solution and way better to learn it now than late in season or in playoffs. Still it is imperative, that Brock gets plenty of practice with wet ball and wet leather glove.

There's a ton of feel and gripping the ball I may not understand, but maybe he can't feel the ball as well with the glove and loses feel? Again, just speculation, but if it were that simple, wouldn't he have already considered it?

FREAKIN Griese... he should STOP teaching his QBs to get rid of the ball ASAP even if they aren't holding on the laces.. THIS IS SO WRONG !!!

How long exactly do you think he has to get rid of it behind this O line? Kyle and Mike never prioritized great pass pro from the O line, rather timing and quickness. Moving the pocket when needed. Not on Griese, he's trying to keep our dude alive.

He has an average of 2.90 seconds before being pressured which ranks 34th out of 35 QB's.

I'm in full agreement with SLC above, and think Griese has done a spectacular job. As for YAC's stat, that is stunning. I had no idea Brock was holding 2.9 secs before he got pressured. Says a lot for the OL, but also for Brock moving his throwing platform around to gain more time.

That is not alot of time. The average in the NFL is like 3.43 seconds. Just to clarify that is the amount of time on average that Brock has to throw before being pressured. Brock's overall TTT is 2.44 seconds.

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
I posted in the game day thread at about page 302 that this clip of Brock just means that he should wear a leather glove when ball is wet…a sticky glove like Warner used to use. Good thing to find this out now so that next time ball is wet, Brock will have practiced with a wet ball and the stick glove.

In Paso Robles, playing golf in 110 or 112 degree weather, one tends to sweat a tad. But the golf courses are empty and a guy could play 2 rounds in the afternoon…but absolutely imperative to use a leather glove along with shafts of leather. Same goes for Brock in wet weather and wet ball…gloves are essential, and he definitely needs to get the feel of them practicing with a wet ball.

Besides this complete slip in the photo, there were at least a half dozen passes that got away from him and it looked like he was trying to put extra mustard on several passes which sailed long. I blame those passes on wet ball also. There were also another half dozen passes where ball came off Brock's hand with a wobble and on replay you can see (in two passes for sure)where the ball had already slipped.

Simple problem…simple solution and way better to learn it now than late in season or in playoffs. Still it is imperative, that Brock gets plenty of practice with wet ball and wet leather glove.

There's a ton of feel and gripping the ball I may not understand, but maybe he can't feel the ball as well with the glove and loses feel? Again, just speculation, but if it were that simple, wouldn't he have already considered it?

FREAKIN Griese... he should STOP teaching his QBs to get rid of the ball ASAP even if they aren't holding on the laces.. THIS IS SO WRONG !!!

How long exactly do you think he has to get rid of it behind this O line? Kyle and Mike never prioritized great pass pro from the O line, rather timing and quickness. Moving the pocket when needed. Not on Griese, he's trying to keep our dude alive.

He has an average of 2.90 seconds before being pressured which ranks 34th out of 35 QB's.

Whoa! Where do you find all of these stats?

PFF

i still believe in you brock!! keep slinging dat rock!

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
I posted in the game day thread at about page 302 that this clip of Brock just means that he should wear a leather glove when ball is wet…a sticky glove like Warner used to use. Good thing to find this out now so that next time ball is wet, Brock will have practiced with a wet ball and the stick glove.

In Paso Robles, playing golf in 110 or 112 degree weather, one tends to sweat a tad. But the golf courses are empty and a guy could play 2 rounds in the afternoon…but absolutely imperative to use a leather glove along with shafts of leather. Same goes for Brock in wet weather and wet ball…gloves are essential, and he definitely needs to get the feel of them practicing with a wet ball.

Besides this complete slip in the photo, there were at least a half dozen passes that got away from him and it looked like he was trying to put extra mustard on several passes which sailed long. I blame those passes on wet ball also. There were also another half dozen passes where ball came off Brock's hand with a wobble and on replay you can see (in two passes for sure)where the ball had already slipped.

Simple problem…simple solution and way better to learn it now than late in season or in playoffs. Still it is imperative, that Brock gets plenty of practice with wet ball and wet leather glove.

There's a ton of feel and gripping the ball I may not understand, but maybe he can't feel the ball as well with the glove and loses feel? Again, just speculation, but if it were that simple, wouldn't he have already considered it?

FREAKIN Griese... he should STOP teaching his QBs to get rid of the ball ASAP even if they aren't holding on the laces.. THIS IS SO WRONG !!!

How long exactly do you think he has to get rid of it behind this O line? Kyle and Mike never prioritized great pass pro from the O line, rather timing and quickness. Moving the pocket when needed. Not on Griese, he's trying to keep our dude alive.

He has an average of 2.90 seconds before being pressured which ranks 34th out of 35 QB's.

They need to weed out blitzes for that stat (I'm assuming they don't). NYG really cranked up the blitz frequency and I think that skews the pressure rate stat because of course a QB is more likely to get pressured on blitzes.

Okay? So no other QB has been blitzed in the NFL? Giants blitzed us and no one else?

I didn't watch other NYG games the way I watched NYG vs SF (I don't watch NYG games). What are you trying to imply, that blitzes don't result in higher pressure rates?

What I'm saying is that is a poor stat to gauge OL protection, unless you aren't making that statement, then I misunderstood.

edit: https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/giants-blitzed-brock-purdy-all-night-and-he-made-them-pay
Purdy dropped back to pass 39 times and the Giants blitzed him on 33 of those, a blitz rate of 84.6 percent, according to Next Gen Stats. As far back as Next Gen Stats has data, that's the most that any defense has ever blitzed in any game.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
I posted in the game day thread at about page 302 that this clip of Brock just means that he should wear a leather glove when ball is wet…a sticky glove like Warner used to use. Good thing to find this out now so that next time ball is wet, Brock will have practiced with a wet ball and the stick glove.

In Paso Robles, playing golf in 110 or 112 degree weather, one tends to sweat a tad. But the golf courses are empty and a guy could play 2 rounds in the afternoon…but absolutely imperative to use a leather glove along with shafts of leather. Same goes for Brock in wet weather and wet ball…gloves are essential, and he definitely needs to get the feel of them practicing with a wet ball.

Besides this complete slip in the photo, there were at least a half dozen passes that got away from him and it looked like he was trying to put extra mustard on several passes which sailed long. I blame those passes on wet ball also. There were also another half dozen passes where ball came off Brock's hand with a wobble and on replay you can see (in two passes for sure)where the ball had already slipped.

Simple problem…simple solution and way better to learn it now than late in season or in playoffs. Still it is imperative, that Brock gets plenty of practice with wet ball and wet leather glove.

There's a ton of feel and gripping the ball I may not understand, but maybe he can't feel the ball as well with the glove and loses feel? Again, just speculation, but if it were that simple, wouldn't he have already considered it?

FREAKIN Griese... he should STOP teaching his QBs to get rid of the ball ASAP even if they aren't holding on the laces.. THIS IS SO WRONG !!!

How long exactly do you think he has to get rid of it behind this O line? Kyle and Mike never prioritized great pass pro from the O line, rather timing and quickness. Moving the pocket when needed. Not on Griese, he's trying to keep our dude alive.

He has an average of 2.90 seconds before being pressured which ranks 34th out of 35 QB's.

They need to weed out blitzes for that stat (I'm assuming they don't). NYG really cranked up the blitz frequency and I think that skews the pressure rate stat because of course a QB is more likely to get pressured on blitzes.

Okay? So no other QB has been blitzed in the NFL? Giants blitzed us and no one else?

I didn't watch other NYG games the way I watched NYG vs SF (I don't watch NYG games). What are you trying to imply, that blitzes don't result in higher pressure rates?

Pressure rate on blitzes should be a separate stat if they aren't going to account for the frequency of blitzes one team might face over another.

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
I posted in the game day thread at about page 302 that this clip of Brock just means that he should wear a leather glove when ball is wet…a sticky glove like Warner used to use. Good thing to find this out now so that next time ball is wet, Brock will have practiced with a wet ball and the stick glove.

In Paso Robles, playing golf in 110 or 112 degree weather, one tends to sweat a tad. But the golf courses are empty and a guy could play 2 rounds in the afternoon…but absolutely imperative to use a leather glove along with shafts of leather. Same goes for Brock in wet weather and wet ball…gloves are essential, and he definitely needs to get the feel of them practicing with a wet ball.

Besides this complete slip in the photo, there were at least a half dozen passes that got away from him and it looked like he was trying to put extra mustard on several passes which sailed long. I blame those passes on wet ball also. There were also another half dozen passes where ball came off Brock's hand with a wobble and on replay you can see (in two passes for sure)where the ball had already slipped.

Simple problem…simple solution and way better to learn it now than late in season or in playoffs. Still it is imperative, that Brock gets plenty of practice with wet ball and wet leather glove.

There's a ton of feel and gripping the ball I may not understand, but maybe he can't feel the ball as well with the glove and loses feel? Again, just speculation, but if it were that simple, wouldn't he have already considered it?

FREAKIN Griese... he should STOP teaching his QBs to get rid of the ball ASAP even if they aren't holding on the laces.. THIS IS SO WRONG !!!

How long exactly do you think he has to get rid of it behind this O line? Kyle and Mike never prioritized great pass pro from the O line, rather timing and quickness. Moving the pocket when needed. Not on Griese, he's trying to keep our dude alive.

He has an average of 2.90 seconds before being pressured which ranks 34th out of 35 QB's.

They need to weed out blitzes for that stat (I'm assuming they don't). NYG really cranked up the blitz frequency and I think that skews the pressure rate stat because of course a QB is more likely to get pressured on blitzes.

Okay? So no other QB has been blitzed in the NFL? Giants blitzed us and no one else?

I didn't watch other NYG games the way I watched NYG vs SF (I don't watch NYG games). What are you trying to imply, that blitzes don't result in higher pressure rates?

Pressure rate on blitzes should be a separate stat if they aren't going to account for the frequency of blitzes one team might face over another.

Thank you. This is what I'm trying to say.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
I posted in the game day thread at about page 302 that this clip of Brock just means that he should wear a leather glove when ball is wet…a sticky glove like Warner used to use. Good thing to find this out now so that next time ball is wet, Brock will have practiced with a wet ball and the stick glove.

In Paso Robles, playing golf in 110 or 112 degree weather, one tends to sweat a tad. But the golf courses are empty and a guy could play 2 rounds in the afternoon…but absolutely imperative to use a leather glove along with shafts of leather. Same goes for Brock in wet weather and wet ball…gloves are essential, and he definitely needs to get the feel of them practicing with a wet ball.

Besides this complete slip in the photo, there were at least a half dozen passes that got away from him and it looked like he was trying to put extra mustard on several passes which sailed long. I blame those passes on wet ball also. There were also another half dozen passes where ball came off Brock's hand with a wobble and on replay you can see (in two passes for sure)where the ball had already slipped.

Simple problem…simple solution and way better to learn it now than late in season or in playoffs. Still it is imperative, that Brock gets plenty of practice with wet ball and wet leather glove.

There's a ton of feel and gripping the ball I may not understand, but maybe he can't feel the ball as well with the glove and loses feel? Again, just speculation, but if it were that simple, wouldn't he have already considered it?

FREAKIN Griese... he should STOP teaching his QBs to get rid of the ball ASAP even if they aren't holding on the laces.. THIS IS SO WRONG !!!

How long exactly do you think he has to get rid of it behind this O line? Kyle and Mike never prioritized great pass pro from the O line, rather timing and quickness. Moving the pocket when needed. Not on Griese, he's trying to keep our dude alive.

He has an average of 2.90 seconds before being pressured which ranks 34th out of 35 QB's.

They need to weed out blitzes for that stat (I'm assuming they don't). NYG really cranked up the blitz frequency and I think that skews the pressure rate stat because of course a QB is more likely to get pressured on blitzes.

Okay? So no other QB has been blitzed in the NFL? Giants blitzed us and no one else?

I didn't watch other NYG games the way I watched NYG vs SF (I don't watch NYG games). What are you trying to imply, that blitzes don't result in higher pressure rates?

I am asking if you think that Brock is being blitzed at a higher rate than every other QB? Because I gave a ranking with the pressure TTT and you responded by saying that blitzes should be weeded out. It sounded like you were implying that the numbers are skewed because Brock is being blitzed at a higher rate than other QB's.