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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Griese is the QB Coach and he was once an AVERAGE QB... and he knows best to NOT be throwing the football w/o fingers on the laces.. i don't care if others are doing it, but it should be a mandatory for him to teach his QB that especially on bad weathers..

It is best to have the fingers on the laces, however, it is not uncommon for QBs to catch and throw the ball without taking time to rotate the ball to contact the laces.

Getting the ball out quick against a fierce pass rush is also important. Maybe more so.

COMPLETING passes are more important than getting rid of the ball quickly.. especially on a bad weather..

B-Rock does not have a canon for an arm as it is, so the best thing for him to do is stay on the basic and get a good grip on the football in order for him to throw that ball more accurate..

The one where the ball slipped out of his hand, he was not holding on the laces.. I believe there was another throw he made and it went erratic because of this..
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Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
I posted in the game day thread at about page 302 that this clip of Brock just means that he should wear a leather glove when ball is wet…a sticky glove like Warner used to use. Good thing to find this out now so that next time ball is wet, Brock will have practiced with a wet ball and the stick glove.

In Paso Robles, playing golf in 110 or 112 degree weather, one tends to sweat a tad. But the golf courses are empty and a guy could play 2 rounds in the afternoon…but absolutely imperative to use a leather glove along with shafts of leather. Same goes for Brock in wet weather and wet ball…gloves are essential, and he definitely needs to get the feel of them practicing with a wet ball.

Besides this complete slip in the photo, there were at least a half dozen passes that got away from him and it looked like he was trying to put extra mustard on several passes which sailed long. I blame those passes on wet ball also. There were also another half dozen passes where ball came off Brock's hand with a wobble and on replay you can see (in two passes for sure)where the ball had already slipped.

Simple problem…simple solution and way better to learn it now than late in season or in playoffs. Still it is imperative, that Brock gets plenty of practice with wet ball and wet leather glove.

There's a ton of feel and gripping the ball I may not understand, but maybe he can't feel the ball as well with the glove and loses feel? Again, just speculation, but if it were that simple, wouldn't he have already considered it?

FREAKIN Griese... he should STOP teaching his QBs to get rid of the ball ASAP even if they aren't holding on the laces.. THIS IS SO WRONG !!!

How long exactly do you think he has to get rid of it behind this O line? Kyle and Mike never prioritized great pass pro from the O line, rather timing and quickness. Moving the pocket when needed. Not on Griese, he's trying to keep our dude alive.

He has an average of 2.90 seconds before being pressured which ranks 34th out of 35 QB's.

They need to weed out blitzes for that stat (I'm assuming they don't). NYG really cranked up the blitz frequency and I think that skews the pressure rate stat because of course a QB is more likely to get pressured on blitzes.

Okay? So no other QB has been blitzed in the NFL? Giants blitzed us and no one else?

I didn't watch other NYG games the way I watched NYG vs SF (I don't watch NYG games). What are you trying to imply, that blitzes don't result in higher pressure rates?

I am asking if you think that Brock is being blitzed at a higher rate than every other QB? Because I gave a ranking with the pressure TTT and you responded by saying that blitzes should be weeded out. It sounded like you were implying that the numbers are skewed because Brock is being blitzed at a higher rate than other QB's.

Yes, the bolded. I don't have stats that compare how often Brock is being blitzed versus other QBs, I just know NYG blitzed the heck out of him.
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
I posted in the game day thread at about page 302 that this clip of Brock just means that he should wear a leather glove when ball is wet…a sticky glove like Warner used to use. Good thing to find this out now so that next time ball is wet, Brock will have practiced with a wet ball and the stick glove.

In Paso Robles, playing golf in 110 or 112 degree weather, one tends to sweat a tad. But the golf courses are empty and a guy could play 2 rounds in the afternoon…but absolutely imperative to use a leather glove along with shafts of leather. Same goes for Brock in wet weather and wet ball…gloves are essential, and he definitely needs to get the feel of them practicing with a wet ball.

Besides this complete slip in the photo, there were at least a half dozen passes that got away from him and it looked like he was trying to put extra mustard on several passes which sailed long. I blame those passes on wet ball also. There were also another half dozen passes where ball came off Brock's hand with a wobble and on replay you can see (in two passes for sure)where the ball had already slipped.

Simple problem…simple solution and way better to learn it now than late in season or in playoffs. Still it is imperative, that Brock gets plenty of practice with wet ball and wet leather glove.

There's a ton of feel and gripping the ball I may not understand, but maybe he can't feel the ball as well with the glove and loses feel? Again, just speculation, but if it were that simple, wouldn't he have already considered it?

FREAKIN Griese... he should STOP teaching his QBs to get rid of the ball ASAP even if they aren't holding on the laces.. THIS IS SO WRONG !!!

How long exactly do you think he has to get rid of it behind this O line? Kyle and Mike never prioritized great pass pro from the O line, rather timing and quickness. Moving the pocket when needed. Not on Griese, he's trying to keep our dude alive.

He has an average of 2.90 seconds before being pressured which ranks 34th out of 35 QB's.

They need to weed out blitzes for that stat (I'm assuming they don't). NYG really cranked up the blitz frequency and I think that skews the pressure rate stat because of course a QB is more likely to get pressured on blitzes.

Okay? So no other QB has been blitzed in the NFL? Giants blitzed us and no one else?

I didn't watch other NYG games the way I watched NYG vs SF (I don't watch NYG games). What are you trying to imply, that blitzes don't result in higher pressure rates?

I am asking if you think that Brock is being blitzed at a higher rate than every other QB? Because I gave a ranking with the pressure TTT and you responded by saying that blitzes should be weeded out. It sounded like you were implying that the numbers are skewed because Brock is being blitzed at a higher rate than other QB's.

Yes, the bolded. I don't have stats that compare how often Brock is being blitzed versus other QBs, I just know NYG blitzed the heck out of him.

Top 5 blitzed QB's in the NFL

Jalen Hurts- 105
Kirk Cousins- 91
Justin Herbert- 87
Lamar Jackson- 85
Brock Purdy- 82

TTT under pressure ranking

Jalen Hurts- 4.22 seconds, ranked #1
Kirk Cousins- 2.91 seconds, ranked #33
Justin Herbert- 3.29 seconds, ranked #19
Lamar Jackson- 3.75 seconds, ranked #9
Brock Purdy- 2.90 seconds, ranked #34

By the way, this conversation started because I answered someone's question about how long Brock has in the pocket before being pressured. If this was the O line thread and we were discussing the O line and pass protection, I could give you a better idea about how the O line stacks up with the rest of the league. I would be using O line stats, not QB stats.
Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
i still believe in you brock!! keep slinging dat rock!

I still believeth in whom which hath great sized c--ck. 🐓
Originally posted by Montana:
Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
i still believe in you brock!! keep slinging dat rock!

I still believeth in whom which hath great sized c--ck. 🐓

So there is no correlation between hand size and 🐓 size? Interesting.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Top 5 blitzed QB's in the NFL

Jalen Hurts- 105
Kirk Cousins- 91
Justin Herbert- 87
Lamar Jackson- 85
Brock Purdy- 82

TTT under pressure ranking

Jalen Hurts- 4.22 seconds, ranked #1
Kirk Cousins- 2.91 seconds, ranked #33
Justin Herbert- 3.29 seconds, ranked #19
Lamar Jackson- 3.75 seconds, ranked #9
Brock Purdy- 2.90 seconds, ranked #34

By the way, this conversation started because I answered someone's question about how long Brock has in the pocket before being pressured. If this was the O line thread and we were discussing the O line and pass protection, I could give you a better idea about how the O line stacks up with the rest of the league. I would be using O line stats, not QB stats.

It sucks that a lot of plays don't get proper development, I can recall at least 2 TDs that were missed because the first read was taken so quickly.
https://www.knbr.com/2023/10/18/greg-cosell-breaks-down-why-fraud-narrative-about-brock-purdy-is-wrong/?fbclid=IwAR1mu3Mbisqt1aGCwz09Gpimwwxyc-gp5FmHLZ0MpRWGeS7kQY_Oc1CoEpg
Originally posted by YACBros85:
https://www.knbr.com/2023/10/18/greg-cosell-breaks-down-why-fraud-narrative-about-brock-purdy-is-wrong/?fbclid=IwAR1mu3Mbisqt1aGCwz09Gpimwwxyc-gp5FmHLZ0MpRWGeS7kQY_Oc1CoEpg

Interesting convo.
Brock with winning record.
Media: he hasn't played a full season, let's not crown him an elite QB just yet.

Brock's first loss.
Same Media: Told you he was a fraud.
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
So there is no correlation between hand size and 🐓 size? Interesting.

None
Originally posted by Montana:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
So there is no correlation between hand size and 🐓 size? Interesting.

None

what's the play this week, Montana
how do we reverse jinx the current jinx?
Originally posted by Alfienator:
Brock with winning record.
Media: he hasn't played a full season, let's not crown him an elite QB just yet.

Brock's first loss.
Same Media: Told you he was a fraud.

did anyone actually say this?
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by Alfienator:
Brock with winning record.
Media: he hasn't played a full season, let's not crown him an elite QB just yet.

Brock's first loss.
Same Media: Told you he was a fraud.

did anyone actually say this?

i was driving in and on the ol KNBR they were talking about some clown who said see he's turned to a pumpkin
I think with Seattle News that is probably the giveaway, that it's a clown
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by Alfienator:
Brock with winning record.
Media: he hasn't played a full season, let's not crown him an elite QB just yet.

Brock's first loss.
Same Media: Told you he was a fraud.

did anyone actually say this?

i was driving in and on the ol KNBR they were talking about some clown who said see he's turned to a pumpkin
I think with Seattle News that is probably the giveaway, that it's a clown

You can't say that after 1 game against the best defense. In the wind and rain. Minus 2 very explosive weapons. It's absurd. He still led a game winning drive and the kicker missed. He was not going to go undefeated. The body of work still looks very good. It would be hard to repeat this because you can't have this much against him again. It was a lot of factors against him.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
You can't say that after 1 game against the best defense. In the wind and rain. Minus 2 very explosive weapons. It's absurd. He still led a game winning drive and the kicker missed. He was not going to go undefeated. The body of work still looks very good. It would be hard to repeat this because you can't have this much against him again. It was a lot of factors against him.

Frankly SD, I am very excited about an upcoming QB matchup between Brock and Kirk, that is good QB play imo
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