QB Brock Purdy Thread

Anyone who lost faith in Brock after 1 game should refer back to Mahomes performance against the Jags in 2018, Josh Allen's entire rookie season and his performance against NE in 2019.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Anyone who lost faith in Brock after 1 game should refer back to Mahomes performance against the Jags in 2018, Josh Allen's entire rookie season and his performance against NE in 2019.

Losing faith in Purdy is the last thing 49er fans should be doing. If you lost faith in Purdy than this fan base doesn't deserve a franchise QB. Meanwhile Hurts threw 3 picks last week and the media acting like Purdy is the one who threw those picks.

Originally posted by BrockIsFranchiseQB:
If Brock hadn't been picked Mr. Irrelevant, and had instead been signed as a UDFA, NOBODY would be doubting him. It's the fact that he was picked last in the draft that gets people thinking he must be some kind of "system QB" (whatever that means to people these days...like Montana and Young weren't system QBs? Look at their numbers on the Bucs and Chiefs and then compare them to their numbers on the 49ers).

The funny thing is, Purdy actually has better tools than Young did, aside from foot speed (which didn't help Young as much as you think, considering he was made of glass like Jimmy and would get up limping at some point every game).

Young is actually 5'10," not 6'1" like he was listed. People don't even know that. He's shorter than Jeff Garcia. Young himself admits he wasn't as tall as listed, yet won't admit just how short he is. I'm guessing he's insecure.

He also had THE weakest arm of any QB to ever start in the NFL. He never topped 60 yards at the NFL QB competition in the distance contest. Jerry Rice and John Taylor both had stronger arms than Young, and funny enough, Young was actually faster than both of them. That's really telling when it comes to evaluating what actually matters for success at certain positions in the NFL, versus perception.

There are many skill position players who can throw further than many QBs in the NFL. Why don't they play QB? Well, because QB is mostly a mental thing.

Christian McCaffrey can throw a TD pass to a wide open receiver down field. So can Emmanuel Sanders.

But they can't sit in the pocket and have a photographic memory of where everybody is, and then make the quick decisions to get the ball out to the open man.

People go on and on about Purdy's arm strength, but his arm is still stronger than Young's was. I would bet you guys some money that Purdy could top 60 yards in the distance contest, unlike Young.

To give you an idea of how weak Young's arm was, the furthest he could throw it in a game was barely over 50. And I think he needed wind help to even do that. Jimmy threw it 55 yards in the air in the dome vs. the Saints in 2019 on his TD pass to Emmanuel Sanders. Jimmy's arm is obviously weak, but it wasn't as weak as Young's.

Even Montana, who obviously had no cannon, had a stronger arm than Young, despite what fans may think. I think fans assume Young had a good arm because of his reputation as an "athlete," so they think of Michael Vick and other guys who had the big arms to go with the foot speed. Not the case. Young's original coaching staff at BYU didn't want him to play QB.

Here's what he looked like trying to throw the deep ball. Look familiar?:

(at 1:33:55)

(at 8:14)

(at 38:30)

They both have weak arms and try to overcompensate.

The 49ers have never been a good deep throwing team since it started winning Super Bowls. Brock does everything else at an elite level, which is all that matters in this scheme.

If you created a new account just to run down Steve Young, this account won't last long here. This thread is about Brock Purdy, and while comparisons are a valid way to enter a discussion when the bulk of it is to run down a HOF 49er QB, that does not fit the forum rules for constructive conversation.

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Losing faith in Purdy is the last thing 49er fans should be doing. If you lost faith in Purdy than this fan base doesn't deserve a franchise QB. Meanwhile Hurts threw 3 picks last week and the media acting like Purdy is the one who threw those picks.

Hurts is getting hammered in Philly.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Losing faith in Purdy is the last thing 49er fans should be doing. If you lost faith in Purdy than this fan base doesn't deserve a franchise QB. Meanwhile Hurts threw 3 picks last week and the media acting like Purdy is the one who threw those picks.

Hurts is getting hammered in Philly.

All over the country, really.

Originally posted by BrockIsFranchiseQB:
If Brock hadn't been picked Mr. Irrelevant, and had instead been signed as a UDFA, NOBODY would be doubting him. It's the fact that he was picked last in the draft that gets people thinking he must be some kind of "system QB" (whatever that means to people these days.

Stopped reading right here. In what universe is an UDFA given more of the benefit of the doubt than someone who was actually drafted?

Speaking of Young, if I understood correctly, said there are yards to get and more can be gotten if Brock used his legs more and got them himself if they are there for the taking? Rather than being a mostly a throwing qb? Should Brock be more of a running qb? He seems to certainly use his legs when he sees opportunities. But should he use them more? Young was great at getting those yards himself with his legs but also had several concussions. So there is protection to think about maybe idk. I love Young but was always so concerned about him cause of injuries, back then. Hopefully, I understood the interview correctly lol.

...Young had the weakest arm in the NFL, made of glass and is insecure? LOL dude..why ppl gotta pick on us lefties lol. Total garbage post. 🗑.

Brock will be just fine he will get it done Monday night.

Go Purdy!

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Losing faith in Purdy is the last thing 49er fans should be doing. If you lost faith in Purdy than this fan base doesn't deserve a franchise QB. Meanwhile Hurts threw 3 picks last week and the media acting like Purdy is the one who threw those picks.

Hurts is getting hammered in Philly.

My co-worker is from Philly. It's actually his nick name. He has turned on Jalen for 1st time. I told him when they signed him to the extension they'll regret it. "No way! We got our Franchise QB"

As I said he seems to be at the very least unbuckling his seat belt, thinking about jumping off the wagon.

Originally posted by Montana:
Speaking of Young, if I understood correctly, said there are yards to get and more can be gotten if Brock used his legs more and got them himself if they are there for the taking? Rather than being a mostly a throwing qb? Should Brock be more of a running qb? He seems to certainly use his legs when he sees opportunities. But should he use them more? Young was great at getting those yards himself with his legs but also had several concussions. So there is protection to think about maybe idk. I love Young but was always so concerned about him cause of injuries, back then. Hopefully, I understood the interview correctly lol.

...Young had the weakest arm in the NFL, made of glass and is insecure? LOL dude..why ppl gotta pick on us lefties lol. Total garbage post. 🗑.

As a guy who bet on Purdy scoring rushing 5 TDs on the year my answer is yes.

Originally posted by bigmur49:
but I have a feeling you weren't around to watch much of Steve Young actually play.

This. Steve is known as one of the best a dual-threat qbs in history. He had the legs, arm talent, if there were yards to get..he would find a way to get them. Nothing was going to get in his way of him getting that SB ring, none. The guy played about as hungry as you can get. Watching him in the 90's, honestly..he was kind of a hero to me ngl. Still is. #8 ❤️

Originally posted by BrockIsFranchiseQB:
In a world where nobody called Kurt Warner, Tony Romo, or Jeff Garcia system QBs.

Nobody tries to discredit Tom Brady for being a 6th round pick, either, despite that not being that much different from going at the end of the 7th.

The entire Brock doubt is based on the "Mr. Irrelevant" distinction.

I don't agree with what I'm about to say but it is where we're at....

When Brady came out, even the era with Kurt, Tony and Jeff, that's what a QB looked like.

Social Media, talking heads and everyone that has been brainwashed now believes you have to be big, fast and have a strong arm to be a successful QB in the NFL.

That is where the Purdy doubt comes from. Look no further than the 2021 QB class. If that class was drafted 21 years earlier the 5th QB taken very well may have been the 1st. At the very least 2nd.

Originally posted by BrockIsFranchiseQB:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Stopped reading right here. In what universe is an UDFA given more of the benefit of the doubt than someone who was actually drafted?

In a world where nobody called Kurt Warner, Tony Romo, or Jeff Garcia system QBs.

Nobody tries to discredit Tom Brady for being a 6th round pick, either, despite that not being that much different from going at the end of the 7th.

The entire Brock doubt is based on the "Mr. Irrelevant" distinction.

Oh ok so you are just making things up then. Got it.

Originally posted by BrockIsFranchiseQB:
I'm not sure why this is controversial.

Have YOU ever seen him play?

Find me a game where Young doesn't get up limping after a run at some point. In that 1994 game @ the Lions I showed you, he was crawling around the Lions' astroturf in agony.

He missed 5+ games in 1991. Was knocked out of the Giants opener in 1992, and the Cardinals game that year as well. Injured his finger in preseason 1993 and missed the entire preseason, and was questionable to play week 1. Missed 5 games in 1995. Only played 7 full games in 1996. Suffered a concussion in the opener of 1997 and missed the next week. Injured his ribs in 1998 and missed a game. Career ending injury early 1999 vs. Arizona.

As for his having a weak arm, take a look at this video:



And that's actually the furthest he had ever thrown it in the contest. 60 yards flat. Favre threw it 74. Listen to Favre making fun of him after, talking about how in a competition years before, he had only managed to throw it 49, and that's being generous.

For comparison purposes, Jeff Garcia threw it 66 when he competed in the thing a few years later.

The point is not to bash Young, but to simply tell you how physically limited Young was, and point out how success at the position is not defined by physical attributes. If you have a strong enough arm to be a starting QB in division 1 college football, you have a strong enough arm to be a starting QB in the NFL. It's intangibles after that.

Stop talking about Brock Purdy's arm strength and his deep ball. Those things are nitpicks that don't matter much.

literally taken from wikipedia:

It was taken for granted that Young would be the first pick in the 1984 NFL Draft,
/ quote

so you are calling a guy who was a #1 overall type based largely on his athletic gifts, 'physically limited'