The "pUrDy gOt fiGuReD oUT" narrative is weak. Take away the two picks and he's 21/28 with 272 yards. Those picks were atrocious no doubt but those were more on Purdy making ill advised decisions than the Vikings "figuring him out."
I think he needs to slow things down and take what the defense gives him. Honestly maybe take a page out of the Alex Smith book from time to time. Slow, steady, methodical…don't always need to try and throw hero balls.
I'm not worried about Brock. Now if he had two straight games of 15/32 with 140 yards and 2 picks…and was just getting flustered on a consistent basis…I'd be very worried. But that isn't the case.
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QB Brock Purdy Thread
Oct 23, 2023 at 9:47 PM
- LambdaChi49
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Oct 23, 2023 at 9:47 PM
- 9erson3
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Originally posted by kronik:
Originally posted by Young2Owens:
were montana, young, brady, brees, mahomes, allen all 100% successful in crunch time situations?
No they weren't, but what is Purdy's percentage of successful crunch time situations?
You mean like with a little over a minute no time outs? Pretty crappy situation where you have to push a bit harder. The clock not your friend.
The dude has still not played a complete season. Looks better than most same timeline.
Oct 23, 2023 at 9:47 PM
- 49ersRing
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Originally posted by Montana:
Ppl b***h about Purdy..when there is NO D, Moody missing fgs, Kyle brainfarting..injuries to key players..and this guy is supposed to do it all and win anyway..ok. That's a lot to put on a young qb. There are holes on this team, no doubt Brock knows it..(Wilks) and probably is feeling so much pressure. We need another DC
The D only gave up 22 points despite Brock's turnovers. That should be enough to win.
Oct 23, 2023 at 9:47 PM
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Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by kronik:
No they weren't, but what is Purdy's percentage of successful crunch time situations?
2-1 in my book.
Raiders last year, Browns last week, and the L tonight.
You actually counted the browns last week? If it wasnt for that defensive pass interference call on 3rd down (Juann Jennings), he didnt even complete a pass until that 3rd down PI. Jennings had no chance at that catch even if the PI didnt happen. Wow, you love yourself some Purdy, dont ya?
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Oct 23, 2023 at 9:48 PM
- OnTheClock
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Originally posted by 49ersRing:Originally posted by OnTheClock:I'm not giving up on Purdy ... Hurts literally threw three picks a week ago. Purdy has only three all season.
Hurts is a reigning NFC champion and MVP nominee. Don't compare the two. Hurts does 100 times more for his team.
If Purdy doesn't get hurt last year, we're probably saying this about him, so you can shove that comment where the sun don't shine lol.
Hurts has all stars all over the field too in case folks forgot. He also helped lose his team the game last week just like Purdy today unfortunately.
It's reality. I'm as pissed as the next guy about the mistakes, and all we can do is hope it turns around.
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Oct 23, 2023 at 9:48 PM
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Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by kronik:
No they weren't, but what is Purdy's percentage of successful crunch time situations?
2-1 in my book.
Raiders last year, Browns last week, and the L tonight.
He had dropped interceptions on both of those drives. The only difference between those and this one is that the defense didn't drop it this time.
Oct 23, 2023 at 9:49 PM
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Originally posted by kronik:
You actually counted the browns last week? If it wasnt for that defensive pass interference call on 3rd down (Juann Jennings), he didnt even complete a pass until that 3rd down PI. Jennings had no chance at that catch even if the PI didnt happen. Wow, you love yourself some Purdy, dont ya?
You asked what he's done in clutch situations. The team was in position to win the game and a kick was missed.
He had a bad game overall last week and a bad finish tonight. But he's been in 'clutch situations' three times and two times our offense put the team in position to win those games.
Oct 23, 2023 at 9:49 PM
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 9moon:lol yeah.. thats why you love spreading all this love now and not before
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 9moon:glad you had to wait this long to say it.. you must have been really mad during that 5-0 streak
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by kronik:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by kronik:
Well, its true his arm wasnt great. But back in our old days, players were not as fast as they are now. Qb's were able to get away with not having a cannon for an arm. But these days, players are long and extremely fast. You better have a cannon arm if you want to threaten every part of the football field. Otherwise, defenses have a shorter smaller field to defend.
Those two guys were pioneers in an offensive system that devalued arm strength, or at least removed its necessity. Timing based short passing routes… not the classic vertical game.
The big arm guys fail to execute and make bad decisions too. That's what happened to our guy tonight. I wouldn't feel better if he zipped an inaccurate throw with bad timing right to a defender either.
Well it makes it a whole lot harder to be successful if the defense KNOWS u have to pass downfield with time running out. His weaknesses got exposed. You think defenses would play Mahomes that way? I think not.
Think about it.. why were we hearing that Brock was throwing so many more interceptions in training camp? Because our defense KNOWS his limitations and doesnt bother to defend the deep sidelines nor need to defend 40 yards deep. It's only inevitable the rest of the NFL will catch on.
Yea, his arm definitely limited our options on that last drive. We needed to get down to the 20 to even be in his range for a Hail Mary attempt.
WE all can see how limited his arm is... not sure why the HC can't..
I WAS actually HAPPY.. for about 5 games, he was TRYING to prove me wrong...
again, for about 5 games, your HC was TRYING to prove me wrong.. I wasn't hurting much after the Browns game because we missed a FG and had a chance to win.. but tonight, KYLE proved me again why he's NOT a HC..
BUT i'm more amaze that YOU STILL DON'T SEE THAT...
Oct 23, 2023 at 9:50 PM
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Originally posted by BrockIsFranchiseQB:
Originally posted by kronik:
So you are saying we will win the superbowl and rebuild our dynasty with a tiny QB with a weak arm?
What do you think Steve Young was?
Steve Young was bigger, faster and had a hell of an arm. Wondering if you ever watched him play. His knock was he would fail/choke against the cowboys and packers when it counted..
Oct 23, 2023 at 9:51 PM
- SmokeyJoe
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Originally posted by kronik:
Steve Young was bigger, faster and had a hell of an arm. Wondering if you ever watched him play. His knock was he would fail/choke against the cowboys and packers when it counted..
Steve Young's arm was average at best. His shortcomings, like Purdy's tonight, were primarily mental and execution related.
Oct 23, 2023 at 9:51 PM
- SanDiego49er
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Originally posted by kronik:
Originally posted by BrockIsFranchiseQB:
Originally posted by kronik:
So you are saying we will win the superbowl and rebuild our dynasty with a tiny QB with a weak arm?
What do you think Steve Young was?
Steve Young was bigger, faster and had a hell of an arm. Wondering if you ever watched him play. His knock was he would fail/choke against the cowboys and packers when it counted..
He didn't choke. The Cowboys were much better. It wasn't close. Deion changed the balance in free agency for 1 year. Then we lost him to them.
Oct 23, 2023 at 9:52 PM
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Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by kronik:
Sure, teams win championships, but what are the odds when they have to carry the QB? Let alone building our 2nd dynasty?
You don't get it man. Maybe he'll be a SB winning QB, maybe he won't. It won't be his arm strength that determines it.
No, u dont get it. His lack of arm strength in these modern times makes it difficult BECAUSE the defenses have less of a field to defend. How do you not understand this?
Oct 23, 2023 at 9:52 PM
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Originally posted by 9moon:because that is not in any way close to being true
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 9moon:lol yeah.. thats why you love spreading all this love now and not before
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 9moon:glad you had to wait this long to say it.. you must have been really mad during that 5-0 streak
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by kronik:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by kronik:
Well, its true his arm wasnt great. But back in our old days, players were not as fast as they are now. Qb's were able to get away with not having a cannon for an arm. But these days, players are long and extremely fast. You better have a cannon arm if you want to threaten every part of the football field. Otherwise, defenses have a shorter smaller field to defend.
Those two guys were pioneers in an offensive system that devalued arm strength, or at least removed its necessity. Timing based short passing routes… not the classic vertical game.
The big arm guys fail to execute and make bad decisions too. That's what happened to our guy tonight. I wouldn't feel better if he zipped an inaccurate throw with bad timing right to a defender either.
Well it makes it a whole lot harder to be successful if the defense KNOWS u have to pass downfield with time running out. His weaknesses got exposed. You think defenses would play Mahomes that way? I think not.
Think about it.. why were we hearing that Brock was throwing so many more interceptions in training camp? Because our defense KNOWS his limitations and doesnt bother to defend the deep sidelines nor need to defend 40 yards deep. It's only inevitable the rest of the NFL will catch on.
Yea, his arm definitely limited our options on that last drive. We needed to get down to the 20 to even be in his range for a Hail Mary attempt.
WE all can see how limited his arm is... not sure why the HC can't..
I WAS actually HAPPY.. for about 5 games, he was TRYING to prove me wrong...
again, for about 5 games, your HC was TRYING to prove me wrong.. I wasn't hurting much after the Browns game because we missed a FG and had a chance to win.. but tonight, KYLE proved me again why he's NOT a HC..
BUT i'm more amaze that YOU STILL DON'T SEE THAT...
Oct 23, 2023 at 9:52 PM
- 9moon
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Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by kronik:
Steve Young was bigger, faster and had a hell of an arm. Wondering if you ever watched him play. His knock was he would fail/choke against the cowboys and packers when it counted..
Steve Young's arm was average at best. His shortcomings, like Purdy's tonight, were primarily mental and execution related.
Nah nah nah... It wasn't just Young..... MOOCH just like KYLE, can't win when it's most counted..
Oct 23, 2023 at 9:52 PM
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Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
He choked plain and simple. BCB = Big Choke Brock.
You've been waiting for this haven't you? Well enjoy it. It's your time to shine lol
Not waiting on it. I was getting ready to crown him after the Dallas game. I thought maybe he wasn't another Jimmy and we weren't be suckered again. I started to even think maybe he is the next Montana/Brees/Brady like everyone was saying here after a handful of games.
Welp. That's dead.
Sure, sure. You weren't waiting on it.
So, these last two games outweigh all the other good games he's had? You feel like you've been suckered again?
Not going through this s**t again. Jimmy got to coast on going 5-0 back in 2017 for years. Not interested in watching Brock do the same thing.
lol