Originally posted by OwensRAC:IIRC, JD gets his playbook knowledge from an online available copy of the 2016 Atlanta Falcons.
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:JD knows the playbook. You made the assumption that Brock was just randomly that inaccurate.
That's making assumptions about the play that not even JD can know for sure.
The whole world knew that Brock played poorly those three games, and only racist fan boys like you think otherwise. He built up a lot of capital to get the benefit of the doubt, which is what he has with me. But I'm not going to turn a blind eye when he throws FOUR count em FOUR clutch interceptions in two games. I don't hide from reality, unlike you. He did not play well those games. But he gets the benefit of the doubt because he played like a top 10 QB all the other games.
And here you prove how utterly illiterate you are. I never thought Lance was good. I thought he had potential to BE good, over enough time, but I'm the guy who said, repeatedly, HE DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO PLAY QUARTERBACK AND HE CAN'T PASS THE DAMNED BALL. I said that. Over and over again. What I argued in his defense is that (a) he has the character to improve his passing (which he did, this off-season), and he has the intelligence and character to learn how to play QB (which he has not done yet).
I am the one who said Brock is like Patrick Mahomes in the 12 yard window, AGAIN AND AGAIN. As I said, you lack reading comprehension, or you make ASSumptions about people because you're a fan boy. I've repeatedly said Brock is better than your cousin and/or sexual fantasy Jimmy G. And I've repeatedly said he is a baller who is a lot like Mahomes in that 12-15 yard window.
This is the most asinine thing you've said, other than Steve Young had the weakest arm in NFL history. Over and over I said Lance can't even pass the damned ball. How is that "Lance is absolutely perfect."
And I showed your racist ass Steve dropping deep dimes in our PM argument. And Joe did it too. Neither one of those, and neither does Brock or Jimmy for that matter, have weak arms. Which I attempted numerous times to explain to your slow ass in our PM arguments. Jimmy's problem wasn't ARM STRENGTH, it was MECHANICS on deep passes.
MODS: What are you doing? Why do you keep letting this guy make accounts? IP ban his ass already.
Originally posted by OwensRAC:I fully understand anticipation, and that is one of the reasons I praised him so much before.
Also, like most fans, you don't understand that Brock throws before receivers are even near their break. That takes another level of accuracy from other quarterbacks.
The problem with this interception, and why JD is wrong if he said which you claim (which I doubt), is that if Jennings ran the wrong route, and was supposed to run a post instead of a deep in, then he would have ran that route DIRECTLY into a defender. Which means CLEARLY AND OBVIOUSLY if the route was a post or in option, then JENNINGS ran the right route and Brock read it wrong.
Of course, I don't even see a full video from JD on the Vikings game on his channel, so what are you even talking about? The latest video is 6 days old and is titled "SF Defense has Issues;" the one before that is about the trade for Chase Young. And the one before that is about the Browns game.
https://www.youtube.com/@jonnydel/videos
Originally posted by OwensRAC:Smh. Maybe read what I say before deciding you know what I say? Mahomes is like Brett Favre. He can throw with his left hand. He can instantly react and throw when he turns and a rusher is in his face. He can buy time behind the pocket and throw. THAT IS WHAT BROCK PURDY DOES, AND THAT IS WHY I MAKE THE COMPARISON. That improvisation, that's what Mahomes is great at, and that's what Brock is great at. The only real differences between them to me is that Mahomes has more physical talent and is a bit thicker, and has more NFL experience. But Brock plays the same way when things break down, and it's pretty obvious to anyone who actually watches football (someone not like you, since you claimed Steve Young couldn't throw a ball fifty yards, so I showed you a video of him throwing over sixty at the QB competition). Brock is a gunslinger who can throw from a wide range of arm angles, just like Mahomes. Hence the comparison.
Not sure why you think Mahimes is some standard for 12 yard range. Burrow is the guy for that. Mahomes isn't especially accurate at any range. He's in the same system as Purdy, and Purdy's numbers are way better. Purdy's yards per pass attempt is two full yards better.
Originally posted by OwensRAC:
Purdy's accuracy is most impressive in the 18-25 yard range, That's where he's throwing dimes.
Brock is pretty accurate at all three levels. He's dominating mid-range because that's where Kyle likes to attack, but he'd dominate at any depth with respect to his peers because he's accurate at all three levels. Unlike your cousin and/or dream lover Jimmy, who is inaccurate on deep balls. Brock just has random balls that are off from time to time (but sometimes that is because he throws super early and the timing is a bit off consequently).
Originally posted by OwensRAC:They were clutch because we needed him to lead us to victory in those moments. There's not enough data to know if Brock can't thrive in crunch time, or if even the Vikings and Bengals picks were the aftereffects of concussions (entirely possible), but hopefully there will be no need for that going forward.
Those interceptions were only "clutch" because the defense was terrible. Purdy was the only thing allowing those interceptions to be clutch. He kept the team in the games. He carved up the Vikings and Bengals aside from those picks...most of them not his fault anyway.
Originally posted by OwensRAC:
The team punted just as much in this game, yet scored 34 points and had a chance for more when they tried to force CMC to get the record. That's because the defense didn't suck today and allow the opponent to play keepaway.
Punts are your measure of offensive efficiency? How about INTERCEPTIONS. 2 in both games compared to 0 against the Jaguars. How about TD%? 10.7% vs the Jaguars, versus 6.7 against the Vikings and 3.2% against the Bengals.
Acting like Brock played at the same level in the Vikings and Bengals games as he did against the Jaguars is beggars belief. Brock's Total QBR Sunday was 87.8. Extremely high—third in the NFL and one of the best in the leauge—that week. His Total QBR against the Vikings 70.5 (better than average) and Bengals and 54.8 (around average), respectively. He played down to Jimmy G's level those games, which is just good enough to get to the playoffs and lose. If we want to win the Super Bowl, we need Brock to be like he was against the Jags.
Originally posted by OwensRAC:You are militantly dumb if you think that. Given the choice between continuing with Jimmy's eternal mediocrity and throwing Lance to the fire, I mused that in the long run we may be better getting Lance his bumps and bruises and wasting a season for that. But that is not being "pro-Lance," it's being anti-Jimmy. Not because I though Jimmy sucked. But because I knew, not thought, knew, that he was at his ceiling and his ceiling was a draft pick in the 20s and no hardware.
You were militantly pro-Lance. You were defending Lance against the true statement that he didn't throw with touch, linking to meaningless college clips.
Brock changed the entire calculus last year, and turned the page to cautiously optimistic we have our long term QB. The last three games gave the REASONABLE question as to whether or not he was playing above his mean early on due to the NFL not quite having a bead on him. But by this late in the game, his strengths and weaknesses are pretty well known, and the strengths outweigh the weaknesses. As I've said repeatedly, AT WORST Brock will be just a bit better than Jimmy. The WORST CASE SCENARIO is he will be BETTER than Jimmy, thus our TEAM will be better so long as we can keep our guys.
Back to Lance, he DID throw with touch and you and your friends were proven wrong multiple times on that—including clips from NFL games.
Originally posted by OwensRAC:I'M THE ONE WHO SAID HE DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO THROW, GENIUS. I'm pretty sure I'm the first person on this forum to use that exact phrasing. How is that "militantly pro-Lance?"
Nkt only did Lance not know how to throw,
Originally posted by OwensRAC:No he's not, and I proved that multiple times with NFL clips. He's not Justin Fields, but he could pick up yards on designed runs up the middle—which he did repeatedly, for example:
but he's a horrible runner.
Originally posted by OwensRAC:This is even more retarded than your claim that Steve Young had the weakest arm in NFL history.
Slower than many offensive lineman.
Originally posted by OwensRAC:Lance has better top speed, Brock has better quickness. And Lance essentially duplicated the same scramble behind the line and throw that Purdy showed against Seattle last year that everyone loved (including me).
Purdy is much quicker and faster than Lance. Lance skipped the 40 during no combine covid year, and he and his trainer lied to the 49ers and made up GPS claims. I think the 49ers wanted to believe them.
The narrative that Lance can't move is stupid. His biggest issue with respect to running is the same one with respect to passing: hesitation. Possibly due to slow processing, possibly due to the fact that he never played at a high level of competition and was simply frozen by the speed of the NFL game. He was never a Mike Vick clone, but he could be effective in a similar way to Newton: draws, QB power, etc.
Originally posted by OwensRAC:Meanwhile multitudes of experts and beatwriters concluded he improved his passing mechanics and consequently his accuracy. Lombardi for example, who you guys tend to love. I think even JD mentioned that. All after working with Christiansen. This was actually a fairly big story this summer, and it showed in the pre-season. But there is more to quarterbacking than throwing, and Lance has yet to learn the rest of it even if he got a little better at throwing (which he did).
He didn't improve anything. He looks the same as he did as a rookie.
Originally posted by OwensRAC:Plenty of people. The most obvious good QB with a weaker arm is Chad Pennington. Thank you for making sure the whole forum knows I wasn't lying when I said you made this incredibly retarded argument about Steve's arm, that he literally had the weakest arm in NFL history. Had you merely said his arm was weaker than Jimmy's or something like that, maybe you wouldn't have looks quite as stupid. But no. You said weakest in NFL history. NFL HISTORY. The ludicrousness is beyond compare.
Who has a weaker arm than Steve Young?
Originally posted by OwensRAC:You mean the same one where you said he couldn't throw 50 yards and I showed you his second throw going 63?
The guy got laughed at in the quarterback competition distance contests.
Originally posted by OwensRAC:No one was coming up for the ball on that pass. They were still running towards the end zone, and it was thrown about 50 yards down the field, which isn't even Steve's max distance, which I showed you from the QB competition film when you claimed he couldn't throw it 45-50 yards and he threw it over 60. He was beat up and pressing because of the constant pressure, the guard got destroyed, and consequently he threw it early and didn't step into the throw.
He couldn't even get the ball to the end zone on that last pick versus the Packers in the 95-96 divisional playoff game.
Here is the same gif I already posted for you, where Steve throws from about the 45 to just before the goal line, about 55 yards through the air. This is a longer distance than that hail marry, so the claim that it didn't pass the goal line because his arm was too weak is disproved.
Originally posted by OwensRAC:
Keep whining to the mods to ban me. You have to snitch because I keep showing how clueless you are.
The only thing you keep showing is that your IQ is room temperature.
