QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by MucketyMuck:

There's a lot of differences and similarities between Brock and Jimmy imo. The thing that makes Brock the better QB is that he's consistently the good Jimmy, while Jimmy would go from fantastic to absolutely infuriating in the matter of a half. Brock is the smooth raft ride in a theme park while Jimmy was a the old rattly roller coaster that has some fun moments but also moments that jerk your f* head off and make you wanna vomit.

Brock is better than good Jimmy because good Jimmy still couldn't consistently make all the throws, nor was willing to attempt them because he knew he was weak in those areas. I'd add Jimmy's simply not as athletically gifted in terms of escapability either.

Originally posted by MucketyMuck:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
There's a lot of differences and similarities between Brock and Jimmy imo. The thing that makes Brock the better QB is that he's consistently the good Jimmy, while Jimmy would go from fantastic to absolutely infuriating in the matter of a half. Brock is the smooth raft ride in a theme park while Jimmy was a the old rattly roller coaster that has some fun moments but also moments that jerk your f* head off and make you wanna vomit.

Don't insult Brock with any jimmy comparison

Don't be insecure.

Brock is a very good QB that can do more than throw 10-15 yard passes down the middle.

Brock has thrown more "wow" throws in one season than Jimmy has in his whole career and it's not even close.

Ya please don't insult Purdy like that.

Originally posted by MucketyMuck:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
There's a lot of differences and similarities between Brock and Jimmy imo. The thing that makes Brock the better QB is that he's consistently the good Jimmy, while Jimmy would go from fantastic to absolutely infuriating in the matter of a half. Brock is the smooth raft ride in a theme park while Jimmy was a the old rattly roller coaster that has some fun moments but also moments that jerk your f* head off and make you wanna vomit.

Don't insult Brock with any jimmy comparison

Don't be insecure.

i would say don't be ignorant, but it's too late for that

Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
There's a lot of differences and similarities between Brock and Jimmy imo. The thing that makes Brock the better QB is that he's consistently the good Jimmy, while Jimmy would go from fantastic to absolutely infuriating in the matter of a half. Brock is the smooth raft ride in a theme park while Jimmy was a the old rattly roller coaster that has some fun moments but also moments that jerk your f* head off and make you wanna vomit.

LOL

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
That's my quarterback.

#49ers Brock Purdy showed ultimate to respect to Christian Kirk after Sunday's victory over the Jaguars 🫡

🎥: @NFL pic.twitter.com/o51Sg1Uok1

— OurSF49ers (@OurSf49ers) November 15, 2023

He is classy

Classy, cocky and girthy

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by MucketyMuck:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
There's a lot of differences and similarities between Brock and Jimmy imo. The thing that makes Brock the better QB is that he's consistently the good Jimmy, while Jimmy would go from fantastic to absolutely infuriating in the matter of a half. Brock is the smooth raft ride in a theme park while Jimmy was a the old rattly roller coaster that has some fun moments but also moments that jerk your f* head off and make you wanna vomit.

Don't insult Brock with any jimmy comparison

Don't be insecure.

Brock is a very good QB that can do more than throw 10-15 yard passes down the middle.

Brock has thrown more "wow" throws in one season than Jimmy has in his whole career and it's not even close.

Ya please don't insult Purdy like that.

Where did I say he wasnt? My entire post was a compliment to Brock. I even said he was the better QB. As I said stop being insecure and looking for drama. I agree Brock is a very good QB. At times so was Jimmy. Brock is consistently good while Jimmy was consistently a roller coaster. Really good at times, downright infuriating at others. Please don't sit here and get all bent out of shape. My post was 100% complimentary to Brock.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Brock is better than good Jimmy because good Jimmy still couldn't consistently make all the throws, nor was willing to attempt them because he knew he was weak in those areas. I'd add Jimmy's simply not as athletically gifted in terms of escapability either.

Sure in some areas....Jimmy threw many dimes though and was more than capable of moving the chains. That's good Jimmy though. Good Jimmy was few and far between but he usually came out when needed. Usually not always.... I definitely agree about athleticism. Brock is a very crafty QB with his mobility. I have compared him to Rodgers in that area. Jimmy has his moments earlier in his stay with us but he's nowhere near Brock.

Anyways that's all I'll say about this. I shouldve known better than to compliment a former QB here as liking past players triggers some here immensely (not you OTC). My apologies guys...

Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Where did I say he wasnt? My entire post was a compliment to Brock. I even said he was the better QB. As I said stop being insecure and looking for drama. I agree Brock is a very good QB. At times so was Jimmy. Brock is consistently good while Jimmy was consistently a roller coaster. Really good at times, downright infuriating at others. Please don't sit here and get all bent out of shape. My post was 100% complimentary to Brock.

Sure in some areas....Jimmy threw many dimes though and was more than capable of moving the chains. That's good Jimmy though. Good Jimmy was few and far between but he usually came out when needed. Usually not always.... I definitely agree about athleticism. Brock is a very crafty QB with his mobility. I have compared him to Rodgers in that area. Jimmy has his moments earlier in his stay with us but he's nowhere near Brock.

Anyways that's all I'll say about this. I shouldve known better than to compliment a former QB here as liking past players triggers some here immensely (not you OTC). My apologies guys...

To be fair, the comparison is flawed. Pass selection alone is enough to separate the two be several degrees.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Chance:
I don't think you'd agree with MM take on Brock since he seems to think Brock played much better than okay last weekend and sounds like he views him much higher than 22nd in the league at the position, which seemed to be a place in the rankings you were okay with. Unless you've changed your tune.

trying to be critical, and not just black or white, there are grays in football
in fairness, I said he did ok / good, nothing wrong with good, I think our D did better than the O,
D was great

ppl say why wasn't he elite vs JAX, imo, if your HC is saying that's the worst ball or decision of your time, maybe that means it's less than elite
also ate losses on two pretty clear blitzes, now maybe KS isn't giving him a hot option, but still ball out away at least, to avoid a negative play

this is my attempt of not getting too high or low, but just talking what I observe

The first sentence of this post is why few people take you seriously on this board.

I cant tell you how many times in the past that someone tried to tell you something similar about Jimmy, and you just werent having it. Your opinions change from QB to QB, thread to thread. You arent fooling anyone.

Brock was amazing against Jacksonville. Calling him ok/good is comically stupid. I could only imagine if Jimmy had a game like that and someone told you the game was just ok....how you would react to that.

I agree wth your point....He played a great game not good, great, 148.9 QBR says it all. He was 19 of 26 and 3TDs no INTs. Farve threw bad decisions into touchdowns as well. Brock is the best QB we have had in God knows how long.

I can find fault with the O line minus TW. Just think how good Brock would be if the line was over the top, like in the old days (1980s and 90s).

Yes! THAT is what playing great looks like. I remember getting so pissy over the JG Club saying Jimmy played "great" because he made a couple of big time throws and also some iffy throws. I'm glad Brock has opened a lot of eyes with some of the games he's had here. We had gotten so used to trash QB play over the years that Jimmy looked like a god in comparison. But Brock really has played several absolutely elite games.

The irony to this is the exact same concept applies to the OL too. We've gotten so used to this below average standars of play (and putrid, off script), a handful of fans have no context anymore. I couldn't agree more on your point about the QB standard as well. Similar concept to the secondary. I was in the minority as I was not a fan at all of Ward, Tartt, etc.

At least we've fixed 1 of 3! And at the most important position too!

Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Where did I say he wasnt? My entire post was a compliment to Brock. I even said he was the better QB. As I said stop being insecure and looking for drama. I agree Brock is a very good QB. At times so was Jimmy. Brock is consistently good while Jimmy was consistently a roller coaster. Really good at times, downright infuriating at others. Please don't sit here and get all bent out of shape. My post was 100% complimentary to Brock.

Sure in some areas....Jimmy threw many dimes though and was more than capable of moving the chains. That's good Jimmy though. Good Jimmy was few and far between but he usually came out when needed. Usually not always.... I definitely agree about athleticism. Brock is a very crafty QB with his mobility. I have compared him to Rodgers in that area. Jimmy has his moments earlier in his stay with us but he's nowhere near Brock.

Anyways that's all I'll say about this. I shouldve known better than to compliment a former QB here as liking past players triggers some here immensely (not you OTC). My apologies guys...

To be fair, the comparison is flawed. Pass selection alone is enough to separate the two be several degrees.

And to be fair I started my original post specifically stating "There's a lot of differences and similarities" between the two for this very reason. My post was not entirely about play style or ability... My post was more about Brock being consistently good/great while Jimmy was at times good/great but nowhere near as consistently as Brock. In other words, Brock is consistently good Jimmy. It was full on compliment to Brock that he is consistently good/great while also a slight at Jimmy that he was good at times but downright vomit material the next. I'm not so insecure that I can't admit that Jimmy was really good at times like SWH and his other Stans. I can also admit he was downright infuriating at times. Again... Brock is that cozy water raft ride where there will be some rough patches but the ride is comfortably and consistently enjoyable. Jimmy was that old roller coaster that has/had its fun moments but also those up and down, left and right all over the place moments making you sick. You wanna keep going on the raft... Once is enough for the Jimmy coaster

Everyone knows I loved me some Jimmy lol, but why on Earth are we comparing these two? It's really not close. Sure, both are good at getting rid of the ball quickly on those 8-15 yard passes over the middle, but that's about where the comparison ends. Purdy is more accurate, more aggressive, reads pre/post snap better, can improvise if/when a play breaks down, and is much more athletic than Jimmy. And you simply can't deny a season's worth of results either.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Chance:
I don't think you'd agree with MM take on Brock since he seems to think Brock played much better than okay last weekend and sounds like he views him much higher than 22nd in the league at the position, which seemed to be a place in the rankings you were okay with. Unless you've changed your tune.

trying to be critical, and not just black or white, there are grays in football
in fairness, I said he did ok / good, nothing wrong with good, I think our D did better than the O,
D was great

ppl say why wasn't he elite vs JAX, imo, if your HC is saying that's the worst ball or decision of your time, maybe that means it's less than elite
also ate losses on two pretty clear blitzes, now maybe KS isn't giving him a hot option, but still ball out away at least, to avoid a negative play

this is my attempt of not getting too high or low, but just talking what I observe

The first sentence of this post is why few people take you seriously on this board.

I cant tell you how many times in the past that someone tried to tell you something similar about Jimmy, and you just werent having it. Your opinions change from QB to QB, thread to thread. You arent fooling anyone.

Brock was amazing against Jacksonville. Calling him ok/good is comically stupid. I could only imagine if Jimmy had a game like that and someone told you the game was just ok....how you would react to that.

I agree wth your point....He played a great game not good, great, 148.9 QBR says it all. He was 19 of 26 and 3TDs no INTs. Farve threw bad decisions into touchdowns as well. Brock is the best QB we have had in God knows how long.

I can find fault with the O line minus TW. Just think how good Brock would be if the line was over the top, like in the old days (1980s and 90s).

Yes! THAT is what playing great looks like. I remember getting so pissy over the JG Club saying Jimmy played "great" because he made a couple of big time throws and also some iffy throws. I'm glad Brock has opened a lot of eyes with some of the games he's had here. We had gotten so used to trash QB play over the years that Jimmy looked like a god in comparison. But Brock really has played several absolutely elite games.

The irony to this is the exact same concept applies to the OL too. We've gotten so used to this below average standars of play (and putrid, off script), a handful of fans have no context anymore. I couldn't agree more on your point about the QB standard as well. Similar concept to the secondary. I was in the minority as I was not a fan at all of Ward, Tartt, etc.

At least we've fixed 1 of 3! And at the most important position too!

Man, there's that myopic thinking again. Just need to insert in everywhere, don't you?

I think most of us know that our Oline is not playing very well, especially the right side. Seeing your QB pressured on half his snaps is a pretty obvious indication. Seeing your running game not open as many big holes is another. But again, no team is going to have great players at every position group, and as Sunday proved both our line and defensive backfield were helped by scheme and QB play, and defensive line respectively. I'd even argue that our DBs looked pretty good with Lenoir moving to the slot, and will get a needed injection with Womack returning from injury. Not an all-world group, but plenty good enough. There's a path to winning with our current personnel whether you can see it or not.

Now back to Brock.

Originally posted by Alfienator:
That's a pretty cool stat

Anyone know where this actual chart is?

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Chance:
I don't think you'd agree with MM take on Brock since he seems to think Brock played much better than okay last weekend and sounds like he views him much higher than 22nd in the league at the position, which seemed to be a place in the rankings you were okay with. Unless you've changed your tune.

trying to be critical, and not just black or white, there are grays in football
in fairness, I said he did ok / good, nothing wrong with good, I think our D did better than the O,
D was great

ppl say why wasn't he elite vs JAX, imo, if your HC is saying that's the worst ball or decision of your time, maybe that means it's less than elite
also ate losses on two pretty clear blitzes, now maybe KS isn't giving him a hot option, but still ball out away at least, to avoid a negative play

this is my attempt of not getting too high or low, but just talking what I observe

The first sentence of this post is why few people take you seriously on this board.

I cant tell you how many times in the past that someone tried to tell you something similar about Jimmy, and you just werent having it. Your opinions change from QB to QB, thread to thread. You arent fooling anyone.

Brock was amazing against Jacksonville. Calling him ok/good is comically stupid. I could only imagine if Jimmy had a game like that and someone told you the game was just ok....how you would react to that.

I agree wth your point....He played a great game not good, great, 148.9 QBR says it all. He was 19 of 26 and 3TDs no INTs. Farve threw bad decisions into touchdowns as well. Brock is the best QB we have had in God knows how long.

I can find fault with the O line minus TW. Just think how good Brock would be if the line was over the top, like in the old days (1980s and 90s).

Yes! THAT is what playing great looks like. I remember getting so pissy over the JG Club saying Jimmy played "great" because he made a couple of big time throws and also some iffy throws. I'm glad Brock has opened a lot of eyes with some of the games he's had here. We had gotten so used to trash QB play over the years that Jimmy looked like a god in comparison. But Brock really has played several absolutely elite games.

The irony to this is the exact same concept applies to the OL too. We've gotten so used to this below average standars of play (and putrid, off script), a handful of fans have no context anymore. I couldn't agree more on your point about the QB standard as well. Similar concept to the secondary. I was in the minority as I was not a fan at all of Ward, Tartt, etc.

At least we've fixed 1 of 3! And at the most important position too!

Man, there's that myopic thinking again. Just need to insert in everywhere, don't you?

I think most of us know that our Oline is not playing very well, especially the right side. Seeing your QB pressured on half his snaps is a pretty obvious indication. Seeing your running game not open as many big holes is another. But again, no team is going to have great players at every position group, and as Sunday proved both our line and defensive backfield were helped by scheme and QB play, and defensive line respectively. I'd even argue that our DBs looked pretty good with Lenoir moving to the slot, and will get a needed injection with Womack returning from injury. Not an all-world group, but plenty good enough. There's a path to winning with our current personnel whether you can see it or not.

Now back to Brock.

That's exactly what I said. I'm glad you agree and get that.

As to "standards-point" Golden brought up, that's something that takes years to develop. If you knew our history with top DL/OL's you'd understand that. Similar concept to secondary.

The standard for these 3 positions has clearly dropped over the years or there would be zero need to defend such subpar play.

And FTR, we are talking about Brock. He's resurrected that standard.

This 49er team and especially Brock is the most fun I've had watching 9er football in ages. We have a great QB now.

This Sunday marks the end of his first 17 game regular season run. Thought of him as a rookie until he got those 17 behind him. I'd say what an amazing job over 17 regular season games. All and all, even with some learning curve he's been frigging amazing. Love the chance taking. Keep it going even if an occasional INT happens. Nobody ever became great by being safe.

It's always a bit off to read the negative comments. I think some are becoming too complacent and critical and forgetting what a franchise we have. A SB win can't be too far off.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Chance:
I don't think you'd agree with MM take on Brock since he seems to think Brock played much better than okay last weekend and sounds like he views him much higher than 22nd in the league at the position, which seemed to be a place in the rankings you were okay with. Unless you've changed your tune.

trying to be critical, and not just black or white, there are grays in football
in fairness, I said he did ok / good, nothing wrong with good, I think our D did better than the O,
D was great

ppl say why wasn't he elite vs JAX, imo, if your HC is saying that's the worst ball or decision of your time, maybe that means it's less than elite
also ate losses on two pretty clear blitzes, now maybe KS isn't giving him a hot option, but still ball out away at least, to avoid a negative play

this is my attempt of not getting too high or low, but just talking what I observe

The first sentence of this post is why few people take you seriously on this board.

I cant tell you how many times in the past that someone tried to tell you something similar about Jimmy, and you just werent having it. Your opinions change from QB to QB, thread to thread. You arent fooling anyone.

Brock was amazing against Jacksonville. Calling him ok/good is comically stupid. I could only imagine if Jimmy had a game like that and someone told you the game was just ok....how you would react to that.

I agree wth your point....He played a great game not good, great, 148.9 QBR says it all. He was 19 of 26 and 3TDs no INTs. Farve threw bad decisions into touchdowns as well. Brock is the best QB we have had in God knows how long.

I can find fault with the O line minus TW. Just think how good Brock would be if the line was over the top, like in the old days (1980s and 90s).

Yes! THAT is what playing great looks like. I remember getting so pissy over the JG Club saying Jimmy played "great" because he made a couple of big time throws and also some iffy throws. I'm glad Brock has opened a lot of eyes with some of the games he's had here. We had gotten so used to trash QB play over the years that Jimmy looked like a god in comparison. But Brock really has played several absolutely elite games.

The irony to this is the exact same concept applies to the OL too. We've gotten so used to this below average standars of play (and putrid, off script), a handful of fans have no context anymore. I couldn't agree more on your point about the QB standard as well. Similar concept to the secondary. I was in the minority as I was not a fan at all of Ward, Tartt, etc.

At least we've fixed 1 of 3! And at the most important position too!

Man, there's that myopic thinking again. Just need to insert in everywhere, don't you?

I think most of us know that our Oline is not playing very well, especially the right side. Seeing your QB pressured on half his snaps is a pretty obvious indication. Seeing your running game not open as many big holes is another. But again, no team is going to have great players at every position group, and as Sunday proved both our line and defensive backfield were helped by scheme and QB play, and defensive line respectively. I'd even argue that our DBs looked pretty good with Lenoir moving to the slot, and will get a needed injection with Womack returning from injury. Not an all-world group, but plenty good enough. There's a path to winning with our current personnel whether you can see it or not.

Now back to Brock.

That's exactly what I said. I'm glad you agree and get that.

As to "standards-point" Golden brought up, that's something that takes years to develop. If you knew our history with top DL/OL's you'd understand that. Similar concept to secondary.

The standard for these 3 positions has clearly dropped over the years or there would be zero need to defend such subpar play.

And FTR, we are talking about Brock. He's resurrected that standard.

5GR was talking about QB standards in a Qb thread, and you needed to insert your predictable axe to grind about the oline after a game the QB and offense pummeled the third ranked defense in the league while the oline gave up pressures on half the drop backs. So please excuse me if your axe to grind is not only tiresome, but also proved to be something this offense can overcome against good teams.