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Originally posted by ritz126:
i wouldnt say that
Their D is one of the best . They have just whiffed on Wrs
Originally posted by Eddie_D:
No.
Mahomes have done enough to be compared to this year's best or next year's best. A lot of times Tom Brady wasn't the best QB in the league. Heck, half of his career he wasn't the best QB in the league because those years went to Rodgers. With that said, Mahomes can be compared to Brock, who I view as the best in the league this year.
Unless you think Mahomes is better than Purdy this year which I beg to differ. You can just look at the stats and what he is doing with the 49ers.
Originally posted by RickyRoma:
What if you swapped Mahomes and Purdy? Do you belive Purdy on this Chiefs team would be operating at a higher level than Mahomes is currently? Mahomes does get a lot of leeway....mostly from the refs/league, because they desperately want him to get Bowls, but the fact of the matter is, he's probably still the best QB in the NFL. I don't think stats at face value changes much. At least, it doesn't to me.
Having said that, I can't expect anything more from Purdy except what Steve Young said in regards to leading his team to victories when defeat seems likely - the down late in game scenarios where he's got to lead a comeback to win.
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_rating_career.htm
Meanwhile, Purdy's career regular season passer rating is 112.2 over 445 pass attempts (need 1500 pass attempts to make the list above).
I agree that most people with a sense of rational thought would still take Mahomes over Purdy. But at this point, would you take anyone else? Maybe Joe Burrow, though he's injury prone? Herbert and Allen are good but just not consistent enough.
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by RickyRoma:
What if you swapped Mahomes and Purdy? Do you belive Purdy on this Chiefs team would be operating at a higher level than Mahomes is currently? Mahomes does get a lot of leeway....mostly from the refs/league, because they desperately want him to get Bowls, but the fact of the matter is, he's probably still the best QB in the NFL. I don't think stats at face value changes much. At least, it doesn't to me.
Having said that, I can't expect anything more from Purdy except what Steve Young said in regards to leading his team to victories when defeat seems likely - the down late in game scenarios where he's got to lead a comeback to win.
Superstar treatment is common...and unfair. Michael Jordan gets it. LeBron gets it. Mahomes gets it. It is a business deal. In the end, it puts him on a pedestal that he hasn't truly earned although he does have the best physical package at the position.
As to Purdy, if he continues to play at this level he will begin to receive it as well. The league is always looking for storylines that will sell ad time. BP will get his because he is a top storyline this season...and his play supports it.
I think we all get what Steve Young is saying, however, that should not take away from what he has accomplished in his short career. The only time he has had a chance to bring his team back, he did. The fact Moody missed the kick should not take away from the fact that even in his worst game to date, he did put his team in a position to win the game. That deserves notice.
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_rating_career.htm
Meanwhile, Purdy's career regular season passer rating is 112.2 over 445 pass attempts (need 1500 pass attempts to make the list above).
I agree that most people with a sense of rational thought would still take Mahomes over Purdy. But at this point, would you take anyone else? Maybe Joe Burrow, though he's injury prone? Herbert and Allen are good but just not consistent enough.
Honestly, the only QBs I'd take (assuming healthy) over Brock would be burrow or Mahommes. The way Brock plays the game is about exactly as I think the position should be played. I think Josh allen is awesome but not consistent.
Although it's still early with Brock and we will see how he looks ina year or two but I'm confident he will be even better. I just like the classy, methodical, accurate, surgeon type QBs. Just my preference.
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_rating_career.htm
Meanwhile, Purdy's career regular season passer rating is 112.2 over 445 pass attempts (need 1500 pass attempts to make the list above).
I agree that most people with a sense of rational thought would still take Mahomes over Purdy. But at this point, would you take anyone else? Maybe Joe Burrow, though he's injury prone? Herbert and Allen are good but just not consistent enough.
Honestly, the only QBs I'd take (assuming healthy) over Brock would be burrow or Mahommes. The way Brock plays the game is about exactly as I think the position should be played. I think Josh allen is awesome but not consistent.
Although it's still early with Brock and we will see how he looks ina year or two but I'm confident he will be even better. I just like the classy, methodical, accurate, surgeon type QBs. Just my preference.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Eddie_D:
No.
Mahomes have done enough to be compared to this year's best or next year's best. A lot of times Tom Brady wasn't the best QB in the league. Heck, half of his career he wasn't the best QB in the league because those years went to Rodgers. With that said, Mahomes can be compared to Brock, who I view as the best in the league this year.
Unless you think Mahomes is better than Purdy this year which I beg to differ. You can just look at the stats and what he is doing with the 49ers.
Mahomes is better than Purdy in every year. Mahomes is just ridiculous and by far the best QB in football right now. Let Purdy win a couple SBs before we start getting nuts. He's had a great start but he still has a lot to prove.
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by RickyRoma:
What if you swapped Mahomes and Purdy? Do you belive Purdy on this Chiefs team would be operating at a higher level than Mahomes is currently? Mahomes does get a lot of leeway....mostly from the refs/league, because they desperately want him to get Bowls, but the fact of the matter is, he's probably still the best QB in the NFL. I don't think stats at face value changes much. At least, it doesn't to me.
Having said that, I can't expect anything more from Purdy except what Steve Young said in regards to leading his team to victories when defeat seems likely - the down late in game scenarios where he's got to lead a comeback to win.
Superstar treatment is common...and unfair. Michael Jordan gets it. LeBron gets it. Mahomes gets it. It is a business deal. In the end, it puts him on a pedestal that he hasn't truly earned although he does have the best physical package at the position.
As to Purdy, if he continues to play at this level he will begin to receive it as well. The league is always looking for storylines that will sell ad time. BP will get his because he is a top storyline this season...and his play supports it.
I think we all get what Steve Young is saying, however, that should not take away from what he has accomplished in his short career. The only time he has had a chance to bring his team back, he did. The fact Moody missed the kick should not take away from the fact that even in his worst game to date, he did put his team in a position to win the game. That deserves notice.
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_rating_career.htm
Meanwhile, Purdy's career regular season passer rating is 112.2 over 445 pass attempts (need 1500 pass attempts to make the list above).
I agree that most people with a sense of rational thought would still take Mahomes over Purdy. But at this point, would you take anyone else? Maybe Joe Burrow, though he's injury prone? Herbert and Allen are good but just not consistent enough.
Honestly, the only QBs I'd take (assuming healthy) over Brock would be burrow or Mahommes. The way Brock plays the game is about exactly as I think the position should be played. I think Josh allen is awesome but not consistent.
Although it's still early with Brock and we will see how he looks ina year or two but I'm confident he will be even better. I just like the classy, methodical, accurate, surgeon type QBs. Just my preference.
what about Lamar Jackson, he's good
then we would get some of the mythical KS 11 v 11, Lamar with CMC next to him, defend that
but when you factor the contract, give me BP, we have a cheat code enabled, when it comes to the salary cap, BP from his ability should be making $50-60m
Originally posted by Young2Owens:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by RickyRoma:
What if you swapped Mahomes and Purdy? Do you belive Purdy on this Chiefs team would be operating at a higher level than Mahomes is currently? Mahomes does get a lot of leeway....mostly from the refs/league, because they desperately want him to get Bowls, but the fact of the matter is, he's probably still the best QB in the NFL. I don't think stats at face value changes much. At least, it doesn't to me.
Having said that, I can't expect anything more from Purdy except what Steve Young said in regards to leading his team to victories when defeat seems likely - the down late in game scenarios where he's got to lead a comeback to win.
Superstar treatment is common...and unfair. Michael Jordan gets it. LeBron gets it. Mahomes gets it. It is a business deal. In the end, it puts him on a pedestal that he hasn't truly earned although he does have the best physical package at the position.
As to Purdy, if he continues to play at this level he will begin to receive it as well. The league is always looking for storylines that will sell ad time. BP will get his because he is a top storyline this season...and his play supports it.
I think we all get what Steve Young is saying, however, that should not take away from what he has accomplished in his short career. The only time he has had a chance to bring his team back, he did. The fact Moody missed the kick should not take away from the fact that even in his worst game to date, he did put his team in a position to win the game. That deserves notice.
How come steph never gets superstar treatment tho. Feels like this doesn't apply to Bay Area sports stars
Originally posted by dj43:
Good point.
Bay Area players have never received the recognition they deserve. Look how long it took some of the 49er superstars from the 60s and 70s to receive HOF mention.
Curry is a curious case to me. It is almost like the writers consider his enormous talent and accomplishment as a cheat code that does not deserve honor.