Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
tired of the is it Brock or is it the system debate. It's both. System means coaching, playcalling, talent around, we are elite in all those respects. That helps Brock be who he is. obviously he has game, or the results would be whatever Trey Lance was doing
I have never in my life...including the Montana and Young years, seen so many layered throws
Sure Montana dominated with Slants and Young was a better Post thrower.....but Brock has very rare (from my perspective) accuracy and anticipation to throw layered passes.
Besides that.... I have not watched a ballgame in years that did not run some version of a timing offense.
System QB came into vogue in the 80s to explain what Montana was doing with the WCO. All it meant at that time was the QB had a simplified read on the defense. You took one read at a time....mostly off of time, some times off of area. Roll right...you had an A read and a B read. Or the QB had Read 1 and 4 at step 3 and read 2 and 3 at step 5 based on the choice the QB made dropping back (time based). That was in contrast to say Dan Marino that had 4 reads simultaneously.
It use to mean how many balls can the QB keep in the air as he was juggling reads, ie mental power and does he have the arm to be a threat on all those reads. Marino could threaten any part of the field at any time, Joe had his skill players routed back to the middle of the field to counter act his weaker arm.
when "system QB" was coined....WRs did not go over the middle of the field. The 49ers having 2 WRs over 6 foot 200 pounds was a REALLY big deal. It would be the equivalent of the current 49ers having 2 6-5 250 pounds guys today. The 49er WRs were approaching TE size for some teams. The 49ers had lineman that were 6-3 250 pounds compared to Dwight Clark at 6-4 220 pounds. Could you imagine a WR 30-40 pounds lighter than a current lineman? dude would massive.
So yeah, "system" QB had pre snap reads, easy progression, and WRs willing to work with his arm strength by going over the middle.
We all see it every week, there is no team that does not throw in the middle of the field now. There is no team that does not run timing routs with rout trees.
System QB does not mean anything these days.
