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  • Furlow
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Furlow:
There is no right or wrong IF the result is positive. Just imagine that Purdy threw an INT on that pass to Aiyuk; do you think Kyle would say it was the "correct" read? Hell no. Kyle was very clear if you just listen and don't have a bias - the right read (for our conservative coach) was the checkdown because it was wide open, we had the lead, it would have moved the chains, it was safe.

Kyle is a conservative minded head coach, weird that you and a few others keep trying to make it sound like he wants to air it out down the field like the 90's Oilers.

Not being Mike Martz doesn't make him conservative. He does want to push the ball down the field in the pass game. What he doesn't want to do is have his QB throw down the field into coverage. I guarantee in film study when he sees what Brock sees instead of just quickly watching from the sideline he will be happy with the decision.

Just like in 2016, if you give him a QB he can trust he will tell him to let it rip.

Kyle's offenses are routinely in the top 5 in rush attempts per game/season. Even in 2016 with the Falcons (Ryan MVP) they were 12th. He wants to run the ball and play defense. That is the definition of "conservative" in football terms. How is this even a debate?

Again, He's happy with the decision because it worked. It's not what's in his "blood" as a coach. It just isn't and never will be. Luckily for us we have the perfect complement for Kyle, a QB with a gunslinger mentality. They are a perfect pair.

Edit: In 2016, the Falcons were 26th in pass attempts. Not exactly "letting it rip" lol.
pass atts vs run atts doesn't show how the offenses worked or philosophy.

Ryan didn't win MVP on being carried by Run

12th in rushing attempts and 26th in passing attempts "doesn't show an offense's philosophy?" You can't be serious right now. We're talking about Kyle. Focus.
you need to focus, and stop pretending that the atts tell the philosophy or anything you are trying to say.

you have to factor a lot of other things. Blowouts, efficiency , TOP. Etc

We're not a one dimensional team and the results prove that

I didn't say we're a one dimensional team, but I understand why you're trying to change the subject - because you're losing the debate. Kyle has been an OC or head coach for 16 years and has consistently ranked in the top 5-10 in rushing attempts and bottom 5-10 in passing attempts. And your argument now is that none of that data means anything? Just apologize and move on lol.
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Furlow:
There is no right or wrong IF the result is positive. Just imagine that Purdy threw an INT on that pass to Aiyuk; do you think Kyle would say it was the "correct" read? Hell no. Kyle was very clear if you just listen and don't have a bias - the right read (for our conservative coach) was the checkdown because it was wide open, we had the lead, it would have moved the chains, it was safe.

Kyle is a conservative minded head coach, weird that you and a few others keep trying to make it sound like he wants to air it out down the field like the 90's Oilers.

Not being Mike Martz doesn't make him conservative. He does want to push the ball down the field in the pass game. What he doesn't want to do is have his QB throw down the field into coverage. I guarantee in film study when he sees what Brock sees instead of just quickly watching from the sideline he will be happy with the decision.

Just like in 2016, if you give him a QB he can trust he will tell him to let it rip.

Kyle's offenses are routinely in the top 5 in rush attempts per game/season. Even in 2016 with the Falcons (Ryan MVP) they were 12th. He wants to run the ball and play defense. That is the definition of "conservative" in football terms. How is this even a debate?

Again, He's happy with the decision because it worked. It's not what's in his "blood" as a coach. It just isn't and never will be. Luckily for us we have the perfect complement for Kyle, a QB with a gunslinger mentality. They are a perfect pair.

Edit: In 2016, the Falcons were 26th in pass attempts. Not exactly "letting it rip" lol.
pass atts vs run atts doesn't show how the offenses worked or philosophy.

Ryan didn't win MVP on being carried by Run

12th in rushing attempts and 26th in passing attempts "doesn't show an offense's philosophy?" You can't be serious right now. We're talking about Kyle. Focus.

Passing attempts is a bit misleading. Dropbacks is a better stat to use for pass/run split.

That's only differentiating for sacks, right? Teams that pass more get sacked more (generally) so that would skew the rankings even more. Either way it wouldn't affect the rankings much; we can absolutely determine what a play caller's philosophy is based on run/pass split rankings.

No. Actually scrambles come off of dropbacks as well. Which complicates things further because scrambles are also chalked up as QB runs which go into the rushing column. So now you have a playcaller calling passing plays that end up being running plays.
You guys are over analyzing. Common sense to have a HC calling a play that would give his qb a highest percentage of getting a 1st down with the 1st read. What the qb can do with that play after the snap is up to the qb. Other situations include but not limited to going for a TD in the redzone, dial up a big play after previously setting it up.

Remember there's anal in analyzing
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Furlow:
There is no right or wrong IF the result is positive. Just imagine that Purdy threw an INT on that pass to Aiyuk; do you think Kyle would say it was the "correct" read? Hell no. Kyle was very clear if you just listen and don't have a bias - the right read (for our conservative coach) was the checkdown because it was wide open, we had the lead, it would have moved the chains, it was safe.

Kyle is a conservative minded head coach, weird that you and a few others keep trying to make it sound like he wants to air it out down the field like the 90's Oilers.

Not being Mike Martz doesn't make him conservative. He does want to push the ball down the field in the pass game. What he doesn't want to do is have his QB throw down the field into coverage. I guarantee in film study when he sees what Brock sees instead of just quickly watching from the sideline he will be happy with the decision.

Just like in 2016, if you give him a QB he can trust he will tell him to let it rip.

Kyle's offenses are routinely in the top 5 in rush attempts per game/season. Even in 2016 with the Falcons (Ryan MVP) they were 12th. He wants to run the ball and play defense. That is the definition of "conservative" in football terms. How is this even a debate?

Again, He's happy with the decision because it worked. It's not what's in his "blood" as a coach. It just isn't and never will be. Luckily for us we have the perfect complement for Kyle, a QB with a gunslinger mentality. They are a perfect pair.

Edit: In 2016, the Falcons were 26th in pass attempts. Not exactly "letting it rip" lol.
pass atts vs run atts doesn't show how the offenses worked or philosophy.

Ryan didn't win MVP on being carried by Run

12th in rushing attempts and 26th in passing attempts "doesn't show an offense's philosophy?" You can't be serious right now. We're talking about Kyle. Focus.
you need to focus, and stop pretending that the atts tell the philosophy or anything you are trying to say.

you have to factor a lot of other things. Blowouts, efficiency , TOP. Etc

We're not a one dimensional team and the results prove that

I didn't say we're a one dimensional team, but I understand why you're trying to change the subject - because you're losing the debate. Kyle has been an OC or head coach for 16 years and has consistently ranked in the top 5-10 in rushing attempts and bottom 5-10 in passing attempts. And your argument now is that none of that data means anything? Just apologize and move on lol.
losing what debate ?

There is no debate, Blowouts and winning games creates more Rush attempts than passing.
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Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Furlow:
There is no right or wrong IF the result is positive. Just imagine that Purdy threw an INT on that pass to Aiyuk; do you think Kyle would say it was the "correct" read? Hell no. Kyle was very clear if you just listen and don't have a bias - the right read (for our conservative coach) was the checkdown because it was wide open, we had the lead, it would have moved the chains, it was safe.

Kyle is a conservative minded head coach, weird that you and a few others keep trying to make it sound like he wants to air it out down the field like the 90's Oilers.

Not being Mike Martz doesn't make him conservative. He does want to push the ball down the field in the pass game. What he doesn't want to do is have his QB throw down the field into coverage. I guarantee in film study when he sees what Brock sees instead of just quickly watching from the sideline he will be happy with the decision.

Just like in 2016, if you give him a QB he can trust he will tell him to let it rip.

Kyle's offenses are routinely in the top 5 in rush attempts per game/season. Even in 2016 with the Falcons (Ryan MVP) they were 12th. He wants to run the ball and play defense. That is the definition of "conservative" in football terms. How is this even a debate?

Again, He's happy with the decision because it worked. It's not what's in his "blood" as a coach. It just isn't and never will be. Luckily for us we have the perfect complement for Kyle, a QB with a gunslinger mentality. They are a perfect pair.

Edit: In 2016, the Falcons were 26th in pass attempts. Not exactly "letting it rip" lol.
pass atts vs run atts doesn't show how the offenses worked or philosophy.

Ryan didn't win MVP on being carried by Run

12th in rushing attempts and 26th in passing attempts "doesn't show an offense's philosophy?" You can't be serious right now. We're talking about Kyle. Focus.

Passing attempts is a bit misleading. Dropbacks is a better stat to use for pass/run split.

That's only differentiating for sacks, right? Teams that pass more get sacked more (generally) so that would skew the rankings even more. Either way it wouldn't affect the rankings much; we can absolutely determine what a play caller's philosophy is based on run/pass split rankings.

No. Actually scrambles come off of dropbacks as well. Which complicates things further because scrambles are also chalked up as QB runs which go into the rushing column. So now you have a playcaller calling passing plays that end up being running plays.

Okay that's even more rare than sacks. You do the work lol.
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
You guys are over analyzing. Common sense to have a HC calling a play that would give his qb a highest percentage of getting a 1st down with the 1st read. What the qb can do with that play after the snap is up to the qb. Other situations include but not limited to going for a TD in the redzone, dial up a big play after previously setting it up.

Remember there's anal in analyzing

What about the fact that this offense has faced the least amount of 3rd downs in the league? We are 25th in plays per game and yet are 3rd in ppg. There are so many factors that go into the run/pass split it can make a persons head spin.
[ Edited by YACBros85 on Nov 28, 2023 at 1:33 PM ]
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Furlow:
There is no right or wrong IF the result is positive. Just imagine that Purdy threw an INT on that pass to Aiyuk; do you think Kyle would say it was the "correct" read? Hell no. Kyle was very clear if you just listen and don't have a bias - the right read (for our conservative coach) was the checkdown because it was wide open, we had the lead, it would have moved the chains, it was safe.

Kyle is a conservative minded head coach, weird that you and a few others keep trying to make it sound like he wants to air it out down the field like the 90's Oilers.

Not being Mike Martz doesn't make him conservative. He does want to push the ball down the field in the pass game. What he doesn't want to do is have his QB throw down the field into coverage. I guarantee in film study when he sees what Brock sees instead of just quickly watching from the sideline he will be happy with the decision.

Just like in 2016, if you give him a QB he can trust he will tell him to let it rip.

Kyle's offenses are routinely in the top 5 in rush attempts per game/season. Even in 2016 with the Falcons (Ryan MVP) they were 12th. He wants to run the ball and play defense. That is the definition of "conservative" in football terms. How is this even a debate?

Again, He's happy with the decision because it worked. It's not what's in his "blood" as a coach. It just isn't and never will be. Luckily for us we have the perfect complement for Kyle, a QB with a gunslinger mentality. They are a perfect pair.

Edit: In 2016, the Falcons were 26th in pass attempts. Not exactly "letting it rip" lol.
pass atts vs run atts doesn't show how the offenses worked or philosophy.

Ryan didn't win MVP on being carried by Run

12th in rushing attempts and 26th in passing attempts "doesn't show an offense's philosophy?" You can't be serious right now. We're talking about Kyle. Focus.
you need to focus, and stop pretending that the atts tell the philosophy or anything you are trying to say.

you have to factor a lot of other things. Blowouts, efficiency , TOP. Etc

We're not a one dimensional team and the results prove that

I didn't say we're a one dimensional team, but I understand why you're trying to change the subject - because you're losing the debate. Kyle has been an OC or head coach for 16 years and has consistently ranked in the top 5-10 in rushing attempts and bottom 5-10 in passing attempts. And your argument now is that none of that data means anything? Just apologize and move on lol.
losing what debate ?

There is no debate, Blowouts and winning games creates more Rush attempts than passing.

The debate (thank you for admitting that you forgot lol) is whether Kyle is conservative or not. No better measure than run/pass splits. Your argument now (it's changed many times today) is that Kyle's offenses have a lot of rushing attempts relative to other teams because his teams are winning so many games in blowouts.

You're burying yourself at this point. No malice nor anything negative being attempted by me here. Don't even know what you're all bent out of shape for anyway. This is not a knock on Kyle, it's simply an acknowledgement of his philosophy and what he wants as a play caller and coach. For that to be successful, he needs an aggressive QB to push him out of his comfort zone and maximize the relatively few attempts that he gets as a passer. We 100% have that in Brock Purdy.
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Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Furlow:
There is no right or wrong IF the result is positive. Just imagine that Purdy threw an INT on that pass to Aiyuk; do you think Kyle would say it was the "correct" read? Hell no. Kyle was very clear if you just listen and don't have a bias - the right read (for our conservative coach) was the checkdown because it was wide open, we had the lead, it would have moved the chains, it was safe.

Kyle is a conservative minded head coach, weird that you and a few others keep trying to make it sound like he wants to air it out down the field like the 90's Oilers.

Not being Mike Martz doesn't make him conservative. He does want to push the ball down the field in the pass game. What he doesn't want to do is have his QB throw down the field into coverage. I guarantee in film study when he sees what Brock sees instead of just quickly watching from the sideline he will be happy with the decision.

Just like in 2016, if you give him a QB he can trust he will tell him to let it rip.

Kyle's offenses are routinely in the top 5 in rush attempts per game/season. Even in 2016 with the Falcons (Ryan MVP) they were 12th. He wants to run the ball and play defense. That is the definition of "conservative" in football terms. How is this even a debate?

Again, He's happy with the decision because it worked. It's not what's in his "blood" as a coach. It just isn't and never will be. Luckily for us we have the perfect complement for Kyle, a QB with a gunslinger mentality. They are a perfect pair.

Edit: In 2016, the Falcons were 26th in pass attempts. Not exactly "letting it rip" lol.

I had to look up the run/pass balance. Currently it's 336 to 309 with more runs than passes. That's pretty even in the run pass balance mixture. Tough to key on Kyle's run or pass tendencies with that kind of statistics.

Personally, one reason Kyle is so conservative is I think to preserve the health and stamina of his defense. Keep the offense on the field and rest the defense for the all important fourth quarter when the defense has to pass rush and shut the game down for the 49ers because they are usually ahead by the 3rd QTR.

Good stats, one thing.. if you are even run / pass, then you are heavy on the run. Most teams are passing more than running. Ranks are informative.

For instance, we rank 32nd in pass attempts

6th in rush attempts

so in that perspective, we are extreme run heavy, vs pass
that's the Kyle way

Agree, this is still a run heavy team - relatively speaking compared to the rest of the NFL. Miami is 15th in rushing attempts 2nd in run yardage, so in a sense, it's the Kyle Shanahan offense. Both Miami and 49ers still want those explosive plays, and go about it similarly (heavy run game, explosive passing game), whereas most of the rest of the NFL doesn't follow that and try to get it by other means (passing more etc.) To me that's very air coryell-ish. Strong run game and explosive long ball passing, it's just that with the addition of the outside zone run, you don't have to have that strong arm to get those explosive passing. You can get good YAC players and get basically the same result as an air Coryell offense.

Chargers rankings in pass attempts per season under Coryell:

5th
2nd
2nd
2nd
2nd
1st
1st
2nd

There is no similarity to what Kyle is doing.

Here you go Furlow.

Since the [Air Coryell] passing system was based on timing and rhythm, the ball was thrown to a specific spot, and the receiver had to get there to catch the ball. The receivers had three different routes they could run depending on the coverage of the defense. Looking for the deep pass was the first option in Coryell's system, then working your way through progression if the deep ball was taken away. Coryell loved getting five players out for passing routes. He wanted three things in his offense: A strong inside running game, the ability to strike deep with two vertical threats, and a solid mid-range passing game.
https://theathleteshub.org/breaking-down-the-air-coryell-offense/

[Wikipedia] The Coryell offense is a combination of deep and mid range passing and power running.[17] The offense relies on getting all five receivers out into patterns that combined stretched the field, setting up defensive backs with route technique, and the quarterback throwing to a spot on time where the receiver can catch and turn upfield. Pass protection is critical to success because at least two of the five receivers will run a deep in, skinny post, comeback, speed out, or shallow cross.

[Wikipedia] The Coryell offense introduced the concept of a tight end that ran wide receiver-type routes with Kellen Winslow in 1980.[18] Tight ends previously were primarily blockers lined up next to an offensive lineman and ran short to medium drag routes.[19] Winslow was put in motion so he would not be jammed at the line, or he was lined up wide or in the slot against a smaller cornerback.[18] Former Chargers assistant coach Al Saunders said Winslow was "a wide receiver in an offensive lineman's body."[1
Originally posted by dj43:
I don't think calling him conservative is accurate, or fair. I believe your point about owning the ball and killing the clock is his goal.

I love the way Purdy brings the team down the field with chunk plays. It is exciting to watch. However, when it only takes 4-5 minutes to score, the defense is back on the field again with little time to rest. That catches up with you in the 4th, as you say.

Its not.

Bears threw 27 times yesterday and over half of then were at or behind the line of scrimmage. Compare that to against Seattle where Brock was routinely throwing 20 yard shots. Those arent the same because of similar attempts. It's what you do when you throw.

Kyle wants to attack with the pass down the field.
[ Edited by 9ers4eva on Nov 28, 2023 at 1:33 PM ]
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Furlow:
There is no right or wrong IF the result is positive. Just imagine that Purdy threw an INT on that pass to Aiyuk; do you think Kyle would say it was the "correct" read? Hell no. Kyle was very clear if you just listen and don't have a bias - the right read (for our conservative coach) was the checkdown because it was wide open, we had the lead, it would have moved the chains, it was safe.

Kyle is a conservative minded head coach, weird that you and a few others keep trying to make it sound like he wants to air it out down the field like the 90's Oilers.

Not being Mike Martz doesn't make him conservative. He does want to push the ball down the field in the pass game. What he doesn't want to do is have his QB throw down the field into coverage. I guarantee in film study when he sees what Brock sees instead of just quickly watching from the sideline he will be happy with the decision.

Just like in 2016, if you give him a QB he can trust he will tell him to let it rip.

Kyle's offenses are routinely in the top 5 in rush attempts per game/season. Even in 2016 with the Falcons (Ryan MVP) they were 12th. He wants to run the ball and play defense. That is the definition of "conservative" in football terms. How is this even a debate?

Again, He's happy with the decision because it worked. It's not what's in his "blood" as a coach. It just isn't and never will be. Luckily for us we have the perfect complement for Kyle, a QB with a gunslinger mentality. They are a perfect pair.

Edit: In 2016, the Falcons were 26th in pass attempts. Not exactly "letting it rip" lol.
pass atts vs run atts doesn't show how the offenses worked or philosophy.

Ryan didn't win MVP on being carried by Run

12th in rushing attempts and 26th in passing attempts "doesn't show an offense's philosophy?" You can't be serious right now. We're talking about Kyle. Focus.

Passing attempts is a bit misleading. Dropbacks is a better stat to use for pass/run split.

That's only differentiating for sacks, right? Teams that pass more get sacked more (generally) so that would skew the rankings even more. Either way it wouldn't affect the rankings much; we can absolutely determine what a play caller's philosophy is based on run/pass split rankings.

No. Actually scrambles come off of dropbacks as well. Which complicates things further because scrambles are also chalked up as QB runs which go into the rushing column. So now you have a playcaller calling passing plays that end up being running plays.

Okay that's even more rare than sacks. You do the work lol.

I have. 😅 Brock has 21 sacks and 14 scrambles. That adds up to 35 more dropbacks than pass attempts. So that is 322 run plays and 344 pass plays.
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Purdy's updated passing rankings:

Passer rating (112.3) - 1st
QBR (75.6) - 1st
Completion% (70.2) - 1st
Yards/attempt (9.4) - 1st
Yard/game (261.0) - 9th
TD's (19) - 7th
TD% (6.2) - 3rd
INT% (2.0) - 13th
Passing attempts (305) - 25th (Niners are last in the NFL)
Passing success rate (54.9) - 1st
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
You guys are over analyzing. Common sense to have a HC calling a play that would give his qb a highest percentage of getting a 1st down with the 1st read. What the qb can do with that play after the snap is up to the qb. Other situations include but not limited to going for a TD in the redzone, dial up a big play after previously setting it up.

Remember there's anal in analyzing

What about the fact that this offense has faced the least amount of 3rd downs in the league? We are 25th in plays per game and yet are 3rd in ppg. There are so many factors that go into the run/pass split it can a persons head spin.

With multi layer offensive weapons and Brock efficiently distributing the ball, they should be good on 1st and 2nd downs, so as to not putting themselves on 3rd down make or break a drive. That's how I interpret that.
Originally posted by Furlow:
Purdy's updated passing rankings:

Passer rating (112.3) - 1st
QBR (75.6) - 1st
Completion% (70.2) - 1st
Yards/attempt (9.4) - 1st
Yard/game (261.0) - 9th
TD's (19) - 7th
TD% (6.2) - 3rd
INT% (2.0) - 13th
Passing attempts (305) - 25th (Niners are last in the NFL)
Passing success rate (54.9) - 1st

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Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Furlow:
There is no right or wrong IF the result is positive. Just imagine that Purdy threw an INT on that pass to Aiyuk; do you think Kyle would say it was the "correct" read? Hell no. Kyle was very clear if you just listen and don't have a bias - the right read (for our conservative coach) was the checkdown because it was wide open, we had the lead, it would have moved the chains, it was safe.

Kyle is a conservative minded head coach, weird that you and a few others keep trying to make it sound like he wants to air it out down the field like the 90's Oilers.

Not being Mike Martz doesn't make him conservative. He does want to push the ball down the field in the pass game. What he doesn't want to do is have his QB throw down the field into coverage. I guarantee in film study when he sees what Brock sees instead of just quickly watching from the sideline he will be happy with the decision.

Just like in 2016, if you give him a QB he can trust he will tell him to let it rip.

Kyle's offenses are routinely in the top 5 in rush attempts per game/season. Even in 2016 with the Falcons (Ryan MVP) they were 12th. He wants to run the ball and play defense. That is the definition of "conservative" in football terms. How is this even a debate?

Again, He's happy with the decision because it worked. It's not what's in his "blood" as a coach. It just isn't and never will be. Luckily for us we have the perfect complement for Kyle, a QB with a gunslinger mentality. They are a perfect pair.

Edit: In 2016, the Falcons were 26th in pass attempts. Not exactly "letting it rip" lol.
pass atts vs run atts doesn't show how the offenses worked or philosophy.

Ryan didn't win MVP on being carried by Run

12th in rushing attempts and 26th in passing attempts "doesn't show an offense's philosophy?" You can't be serious right now. We're talking about Kyle. Focus.

Passing attempts is a bit misleading. Dropbacks is a better stat to use for pass/run split.

That's only differentiating for sacks, right? Teams that pass more get sacked more (generally) so that would skew the rankings even more. Either way it wouldn't affect the rankings much; we can absolutely determine what a play caller's philosophy is based on run/pass split rankings.

No. Actually scrambles come off of dropbacks as well. Which complicates things further because scrambles are also chalked up as QB runs which go into the rushing column. So now you have a playcaller calling passing plays that end up being running plays.

Okay that's even more rare than sacks. You do the work lol.

I have. 😅 Brock has 21 sacks and 14 scrambles. That adds up to 35 more dropbacks than pass attempts. So that is 322 run plays and 344 pass plays.

Okay that would move us up to 27th overall in attempts. Now adjust for Tennessee, Denver, Baltimore, and Atlanta. We'll probably still be last lol.
Originally posted by Furlow:
No it's not tough at all. You can't just look at the numbers compared to each other and claim "balance." The NFL for a long time has been shifting to more pass oriented; so you have to look at the numbers relative to other teams. Currently the Niners are dead last in passing attempts. Stressing the word LAST. The are 6th in rushing attempts. As in SIXTH. Sixth in rushing, last in passing.

Yet some want to continue with this insane narrative that Kyle is an aggressive coach who wants his QB's to launch the ball down the field. Nothing (in terms of his philosophy) has changed from Matt Ryan (with prime Julio Jones) to Jimmy, to now Purdy. The difference is Purdy (and Ryan) is willing to push the comfort zone and take calculated chances for chunk plays. Kyle NEEDS a QB like Purdy (and Ryan) to do that.

Kyle needs an elite Qb who can make all the throws. He hasn't had that. Why would he have faith in a guy who can't consistently hit a wide open deep ball?
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