QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Furlow:
Getting yards from YAC is not a knock on the QB; not was I was implying at all. Ironic though that the Jimmy haters (who ALWAYS downplayed his stats because of YAC) are now totally fine with YAC coming from Purdy lol.

My point was that listing the Niners in the top 10 in explosive plays does not mean that they have an aggressive offense. I think I stand with the vast majority of fans and analysts who would agree that coaches who run the ball more are more "conservative" and coaches who pass the ball more are more "aggressive." This has been true for the history of the game as long as it's included forward passing. Finding outliers here and there does not take away from this fact. Same is true for coaches who call plays at a slower pace, that is more conservative. How often do they go for it on 4th down. Do they pass or run on 3rd and short. Plenty of metrics we can use, and prior to Purdy - all of them show that Kyle is conservative. So it seems pretty obvious that Purdy is helping Kyle become more aggressive; and in turn Kyle is helping Purdy not go YOLO and make stupid decisions. Again, this is the best combination a fan could hope for. So confusing why some in here are getting bent out of shape about it.

Putting the bulk of this aside, you argued that Kyle is 'risk adverse to deep passing'. That is seemingly the crux of what many of us are arguing against.

Joining the average fan in thinking more passing = more aggression is basically just a matter of preference in the type of offense you want to see.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Undeniable. Remember all that talk about ghost routes and clearing routes? They all magically disappeared starting late last season.

Thats when Brock started calling his own plays in the huddle Varsity Blues style.

lol.. can't believe some people actually believe Brock is doing this

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Undeniable. Remember all that talk about ghost routes and clearing routes? They all magically disappeared starting late last season.

Thats when Brock started calling his own plays in the huddle Varsity Blues style.

lol.. can't believe some people actually believe Brock is doing this

it's the ol Walsh and Joe drawing it up and the dirt, only with just Brock

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Undeniable. Remember all that talk about ghost routes and clearing routes? They all magically disappeared starting late last season.

Thats when Brock started calling his own plays in the huddle Varsity Blues style.

Careful, someone is going to believe you're serious.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Undeniable. Remember all that talk about ghost routes and clearing routes? They all magically disappeared starting late last season.

Thats when Brock started calling his own plays in the huddle Varsity Blues style.

lol.. can't believe some people actually believe Brock is doing this

Damn, see.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Aiyuks comment about "there were plays when we knew we were never going to get the ball on the call"? Or essentially what he said?

Correct.

Undeniable. Remember all that talk about ghost routes and clearing routes? They all magically disappeared starting late last season.

Ghost route was shoved down our throats like tiers 🤣

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Undeniable. Remember all that talk about ghost routes and clearing routes? They all magically disappeared starting late last season.

Thats when Brock started calling his own plays in the huddle Varsity Blues style.

Careful, someone is going to believe you're serious.

Definitely not calling his own plays. But our receivers can't just take plays off and run lazy routes. You don't see much of that from BA and is probably why he has naturally become Brock's favorite target. Coverage dictates where the ball goes and no route is a clearing route. A checkdown is a missed opportunity to Brock according to what Kyle said.

This throw is very aggressive, we all agree. Kyle's aggressiveness (design) or Purdy's (guts, decision making)? 👀

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Undeniable. Remember all that talk about ghost routes and clearing routes? They all magically disappeared starting late last season.

Thats when Brock started calling his own plays in the huddle Varsity Blues style.

Careful, someone is going to believe you're serious.

Definitely not calling his own plays. But our receivers can't just take plays off and run lazy routes. You don't see much of that from BA and is probably why he has naturally become Brock's favorite target. Coverage dictates where the ball goes and no route is a clearing route. A checkdown is a missed opportunity to Brock according to what Kyle said.

There are absolutely clearing routes. And Deebo runs them lazily constantly. Watch some of JT's breakdowns (QB School on YouTube). It's maddening. Offense would be so much better if he ran every route with 100% effort.

FWIW - I would contend that ANY NFL coach worth his salt will only press as hard/fast as he believe his team can sustain.
**By that definition, EVERY great coach is conservative.**

If a coach presses harder (aggressive) than his team can sustain, you get turnovers and losses not Super Bowl wins.

Now...the sheer number of deep passes BP has completed argues that Kyle is quite confident in his QB (hasn't benched him yet). If you want to equate that to "aggressive"...cheers! If you don't think he does enough of it and call him conservative...take solace in the number of wins we have.

I really feel this whole debate hangs on your 'viewpoint'

Originally posted by Furlow:
There are absolutely clearing routes. And Deebo runs them lazily constantly. Watch some of JT's breakdowns (QB School on YouTube). It's maddening. Offense would be so much better if he ran every route with 100% effort.

Right but the idea that Kyle doesn't allow for a throw to that route in any circumstance is not supported in evidence.

You actually made the argument that Jimmy went along with that because he is a 'people pleaser' which I could only describe as some kind of bizarre fan fiction, lol.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Undeniable. Remember all that talk about ghost routes and clearing routes? They all magically disappeared starting late last season.

Thats when Brock started calling his own plays in the huddle Varsity Blues style.

lol.. can't believe some people actually believe Brock is doing this

Damn, see.

uh looks like we got one ^^

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Undeniable. Remember all that talk about ghost routes and clearing routes? They all magically disappeared starting late last season.

Thats when Brock started calling his own plays in the huddle Varsity Blues style.

Careful, someone is going to believe you're serious.

Definitely not calling his own plays. But our receivers can't just take plays off and run lazy routes. You don't see much of that from BA and is probably why he has naturally become Brock's favorite target. Coverage dictates where the ball goes and no route is a clearing route. A checkdown is a missed opportunity to Brock according to what Kyle said.

There are absolutely clearing routes. And Deebo runs them lazily constantly. Watch some of JT's breakdowns (QB School on YouTube). It's maddening. Offense would be so much better if he ran every route with 100% effort.

I watch his breakdowns of Brock every week. Yes. He points out Deebo all the time for that. If Deebo ran all his routes with the same effort as Aiyuk, this offense could reach its full potential.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Undeniable. Remember all that talk about ghost routes and clearing routes? They all magically disappeared starting late last season.

Thats when Brock started calling his own plays in the huddle Varsity Blues style.

Careful, someone is going to believe you're serious.

Definitely not calling his own plays. But our receivers can't just take plays off and run lazy routes. You don't see much of that from BA and is probably why he has naturally become Brock's favorite target. Coverage dictates where the ball goes and no route is a clearing route. A checkdown is a missed opportunity to Brock according to what Kyle said.

There are absolutely clearing routes. And Deebo runs them lazily constantly. Watch some of JT's breakdowns (QB School on YouTube). It's maddening. Offense would be so much better if he ran every route with 100% effort.

I watch his breakdowns of Brock every week. Yes. He points out Deebo all the time for that. If Deebo ran all his routes with the same effort as Aiyuk, this offense could reach its full potential.

Jt also says again and again.. he doesn't know what are the intentions of each play.. he's just going off the film and adding his "opinion" not facts

let's change the narrative. Kid needs to show up this weekend vs one of the top teams in the league on the road to shut people up….he's not gonna get the love until he beats the top dog.