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  • Furlow
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by Shorteous:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
You got to love these odd opinions ^^

one thing that is factual is that every QB under Kyle has played better under him than anyone else.

Have any of them gone to a coach with a proven offensive track record… like Andy Reid?

Don't bother with pesky facts. Kyle is a father to a few posters in here.
don't bother with facts.. so you admit it. thanks

Yes it's true that no QB under Kyle has gone on to play for as good of a coach as him.
Fact: Josh McDaniels is one of those Coaches 6x SB Champ and OC for a SB team

McDaniels is as good of a coach as Kyle now.
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Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by thl408:
I'm sure we've all heard that type of play before "touchdown to checkdown". Look for the touchdown, if it's not there, take the checkdown. Kyle didn't think the touchdown was there but Brock proved him wrong.

We have people in here that think Kyle doesn't want the touchdown. It's always been ridiculous.

He didn't think the touchdown was there from his sideline view. I take commentary from after the game with a grain of salt because they haven't seen the film. But since it fits a Brock is 80% of our success narrative and Kyle is along for the ride people run with it.

We have people in here who don't believe in clear out routes lol.
Originally posted by NCommand:
To your other point, as long as he keeps being successful despite Kyle's mini stroke each time, Kyle might start modifying the offense more to highlight that moxy. Not sure.

Mike Holmgren adjusted to Favre. Once you realize the guy can make any play you are liberated as a playcaller.

Tweaks are all that is needed. It's an all time passing offense RIGHT NOW.
Originally posted by Furlow:
McDaniels is as good of a coach as Kyle now.

You tell us. You were predicting far more Jimmy success in Vegas all offseason.
[ Edited by 9ers4eva on Nov 30, 2023 at 8:48 AM ]
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Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
To your other point, as long as he keeps being successful despite Kyle's mini stroke each time, Kyle might start modifying the offense more to highlight that moxy. Not sure.

Mike Holmgren adjusted to Favre. Once you realize the guy can make any play you are liberated as a playcaller.

Tweaks are all that is needed. It's an all time passing offense RIGHT NOW.

Tweaks and more opportunities (attempts) would be nice. Even if we're winning, a move towards less running and more passing would be nice to see.
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Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Furlow:
McDaniels is as good of a coach as Kyle now.

You tell us. You were predicting far more Jimmy success in Vegas all offseason.

I thought that Jimmy being able to play with more freedom would help him. Didn't realize how broken he actually was/is. Busted up body plus freedom to do whatever you want = a lot of turnovers.

Jimmy aside, McDaniels isn't in the same universe as Kyle.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Furlow:
McDaniels is as good of a coach as Kyle now.

You tell us. You were predicting far more Jimmy success in Vegas all offseason.
lol so easy to get these guys to contradict everything they say
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by thl408:
It is not a designed checkdown (short pass). The coverage dictates the throw. In that specific coverage that Brock was seeing, Aiyuk was supposedly covered, or so that's what Kyle thought. Brock proved Kyle wrong.

Even Aiyuk said he thought he had a chance to get targeted since there were only two routes. The whole idea of 'Brock should have thrown short" is that because of the deep coverage, Kyle didn't think Aiyuk would be open. It's not that Aiyuk is not an option at all.

It's common sense thl.

Nice to have folks who know what they are talking about who can break it down .
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by Shorteous:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
You got to love these odd opinions ^^

one thing that is factual is that every QB under Kyle has played better under him than anyone else.

Have any of them gone to a coach with a proven offensive track record… like Andy Reid?

Don't bother with pesky facts. Kyle is a father to a few posters in here.
don't bother with facts.. so you admit it. thanks

Yes it's true that no QB under Kyle has gone on to play for as good of a coach as him.
Fact: Josh McDaniels is one of those Coaches 6x SB Champ and OC for a SB team

McDaniels is as good of a coach as Kyle now.
Purdy is elite and he passes the eye test and stats as well. The league this year lacks elite QB's and look at the recent injuries to all these QB's. It feels like teams need to hold 3 quarterbacks and look at how many teams are missing their QB1 due to injuries. With that said, of all the QB's currently, I would say Brock is elite.

He is not elite because a lot of guys are out but his stats prove that he is #1 or the best QB in the league right now. I will refrain from calling him the best this year because he's only played a season's worth of games so I will just say he is elite. What I really want to say is he is arguably the best.

We will wait and see.

Originally posted by Furlow:
I thought that Jimmy being able to play with more freedom would help him. Didn't realize how broken he actually was/is. Busted up body plus freedom to do whatever you want = a lot of turnovers.

Jimmy aside, McDaniels isn't in the same universe as Kyle.

Awful processing and decision making plus freedom to do whatever you want = a lot of turnovers.

Kyle never limited Jimmy. Jimmy limited Kyle.

Brock and Kyle are bringing out the best in each other because they are both are showing they are elite at what they do. Just like Joe and Bill. Just like Pat and Andy. It's a symbiosis.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Awful processing and decision making plus freedom to do whatever you want = a lot of turnovers.

Kyle never limited Jimmy. Jimmy limited Kyle.

Brock and Kyle are bringing out the best in each other because they are both are showing they are elite at what they do. Just like Joe and Bill. Just like Pat and Andy. It's a symbiosis.

Sadly people don't realize this.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Furlow:
I thought that Jimmy being able to play with more freedom would help him. Didn't realize how broken he actually was/is. Busted up body plus freedom to do whatever you want = a lot of turnovers.

Jimmy aside, McDaniels isn't in the same universe as Kyle.

Awful processing and decision making plus freedom to do whatever you want = a lot of turnovers.

Kyle never limited Jimmy. Jimmy limited Kyle.

Brock and Kyle are bringing out the best in each other because they are both are showing they are elite at what they do. Just like Joe and Bill. Just like Pat and Andy. It's a symbiosis.

Jimmysexuals, all of you
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
This is why I responded to you in the other thread that I didn't think it was a clear out route on that particular play (but would wait to see All 22 at that time).

Again, this is a discussion that's actually about decision making within the offense… which is also where Jimmy was not up to snuff.

It's is entirely normal to have debates about which decision was the best decision within the offense, but there's no actual evidence that Kyle told Jimmy to not be aggressive in the pass game and ample evidence to suggest he struggled reading defenses and with field vision, and left plays all over the field.

Aiyuk's comments reflected that more than anything related to coaching.

Aiyuks comment about "there were plays when we knew we were never going to get the ball on the call"? Or essentially what he said?

Were Aiyuk's comments in relationship to who Kyle dialed up as the primary, or later in the progression (b/c of the QB's slow processing) and/or location on the field (where the QB may not attempt)?

He was saying that play calls with previous QBs (he didn't play much with lanxe and a lot with jimmy) - he knew he was never going to get the ball thrown his way on the play. Now with Brock, you never know and have to keep your head on a swivel.

same plays. Just different qb. He's clearly saying that Jimmy didn't attempt certain kinds of throws and Brock will. Regardless of what the first read is or anytbjng. He will progress through the play and try to hit the big play, even if the first read is a check down.
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