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Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
The upside is even if he's really just a top 10 qb right now by the time we need him to be a top 3 guy to carry a bigger load he might be.
Originally posted by Giedi:
I think Brock arm is very comparable in arm strength to Trey and Kaepernick.It's not weak by any standards in my opinion. He can gun it in there if he wants to, but he doesn't have to 99 times out of a 100, because of his elite anticipation and accuracy. This offense is all about throwing it over the LB's and in front of the DB's, and that requires touch and accuracy - so he really never has to show off his arm.
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Furlow:
McDaniels is as good of a coach as Kyle now.
You tell us. You were predicting far more Jimmy success in Vegas all offseason.
I thought that Jimmy being able to play with more freedom would help him. Didn't realize how broken he actually was/is. Busted up body plus freedom to do whatever you want = a lot of turnovers.
Jimmy aside, McDaniels isn't in the same universe as Kyle.
Even though you and I dont agree on Jimmy, at least you try to answer questions like others dont. So I will ask you this. What part of Jimmy's skillset has diminished from last season to this season? Is his mobility less? Is he slower running? Can he not throw the ball as far? Can he not throw the ball with as much velocity?
When someone is considered broken down or washed up, you can clearly see the difference in athleticism and skillset. So what did you see out of him that was markedly different than last season, where he had arguably played at the highest level he had as a 49er?
I watched a couple of Raider games this year, and I'd say all of the above looked worse. But arm strength in particular. I mean he threw one fade to Adams that was about 10 yards short lol. Something is wrong with him. Maybe he spent the whole off season eating crackers and drinking wine, I don't know. But even Jimmy's worst critics cannot honestly say that he is the same QB that we had here. Kyle is good and gets the most out of his QB's, but he's not a damn wizard lol.
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
The upside is even if he's really just a top 10 qb right now by the time we need him to be a top 3 guy to carry a bigger load he might be.
That and the reality is that no QB does it by themselves. The Chiefs arguably have the GOAT in terms of peak player at the position, and an elite offensive coach, and they aren't winning s**t this year unless their under the radar elite defense continues to play at the level they have through the first half of the season.
Originally posted by Eddie_D:
I honestly don't know what/why people are trying to prove here especially when they bring up our past quarterbacks. None of these guys should be brought up in an argument and shouldn't be used to win an argument. Why are they trying to argue that Jimmy and Lance could do the same as Brock? I mean if you are going to win this argument then we would have to see a catastrophic failure from Brock in order for them to be right. Do they want to say they are right to the detriment of our favorite team? It is crazy.
The best thing for them to do is admit they were wrong and then they can freely root for the team. Deep down I believe they want us to lose because their favorite player is no longer on the team. It is not easy to switch teams when we are winning. So they want the glory as well.
Originally posted by All22:
Cam Newton in his MVP season was the closest I've seen to "doing it alone".
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
If Purdy had Kaepernick's arm and speed, he'd be the quarterbacking Death Star.
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I have never subscribed to the theory that our fans want our team or individual players to fail just so they can be right about an argument. I think its ridiculous, actually. I have disliked plenty of our past QBs and I have never once hoped they would fail. Its team over everything.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
There's a bet in the OL thread that challenges that theory.
So Brock Purdy wore a backwards hat...@ColinCowherd, care to chime in? pic.twitter.com/V8IyL4OVAd
— Herd w/Colin Cowherd (@TheHerd) November 30, 2023
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
So Brock Purdy wore a backwards hat...@ColinCowherd, care to chime in? pic.twitter.com/V8IyL4OVAd
— Herd w/Colin Cowherd (@TheHerd) November 30, 2023
Not sure if posted, but here's some hard hitting analysis we can get offended over.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Giedi:
I think Brock arm is very comparable in arm strength to Trey and Kaepernick.
Not even close. Kaepernick had a monster arm. He was able to get away with a lot of stuff and make throws late because of how powerful his arm was.
If Purdy had Kaepernick's arm and speed, he'd be the quarterbacking Death Star.
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:You're right.
Originally posted by KowboyKiller:
@ 9:00
It's another good point. Credible football analysts who break down film, like a Greg Cosell, JTO, or Chase Daniel, are giving Purdy his flowers.
Some TV talking heads on argument based/hot take shows are not. It's by design in many/all cases. They take opposite ends of casual arguments to generate attention and controversy from the largest fanbases in the game.
We can add Vermeil to the list.
"Kurt Warner could slow the game down. It wasn't too big for him, regardless of what offense he's running. Brock Purdy is the same. He's doesn't allow the tempo to take him out his realm of understanding and where to go with the football."
— 95.7 The Game (@957thegame) November 30, 2023
- Dick Vermeil on @SteinyGuru957. pic.twitter.com/pPUrPuEx67
Originally posted by Eddie_D:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
If Purdy had Kaepernick's arm and speed, he'd be the quarterbacking Death Star.
No.
The world has a way of balancing itself out. If Brock had Kaepernick's attributes then it would mean he would give up on what makes him great as well.
I will play along and say Kaepernick was all straight line speed and Lance was a mini version of this and we all saw how that worked out. A monster arm is great if you're throwing deep but a monster arm is overrated when it comes to typical QB throws which all QB's can do on a professional level. To be honest there isn't a difference from a 50 yard bomb for a touchdown and 70 yard bomb for a touchdown.
There is no advantage of having a strong arm EXCEPT this.....a judgement of arm strength should be judged based on how they throw flat footed or on one foot. We have seen Brock hang in the pocket and laser it out without stepping into his throw. We've more/less seen Kaepernick do it. Brock's big ass thighs allows him to just torque his body without stepping up is a huge attribute that nobody talks about.
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
It's another good point. Credible football analysts who break down film, like a Greg Cosell, JTO, or Chase Daniel, are giving Purdy his flowers.
Some TV talking heads on argument based/hot take shows are not. It's by design in many/all cases. They take opposite ends of casual arguments to generate attention and controversy from the largest fanbases in the game.
