Originally posted by tankle104:
Come on, Brock! Show the eagles D how lucky they got that you got hurt and the beating you're about to put on them, Dallas style. 😍
I smell a 17+ win today
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Originally posted by tankle104:
Come on, Brock! Show the eagles D how lucky they got that you got hurt and the beating you're about to put on them, Dallas style. 😍
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Come on, Brock! Show the eagles D how lucky they got that you got hurt and the beating you're about to put on them, Dallas style. 😍
I smell a 17+ win today
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Come on, Brock! Show the eagles D how lucky they got that you got hurt and the beating you're about to put on them, Dallas style. 😍
I smell a 17+ win today
I do too. Just feels like we are going to throttle em
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:one thing for sure, it's not a dig route. If it was a dig that ball is overthrown easy... thats if you know what a dig route is
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:hell bent ? Not hell bent, but it is false. Your interpretation of what happened is not a fact. so I'm not sure why a 50 YO is so hell bent to make things up to spite the coach.
Because Aiyuk's route was FLAT. Purdy threw it more like a post, AWAY from Aiyuk's route path. That's outside the structure of the play/route. Not to mention the check down was wide open. As I keep saying, Purdy is pushing the limits of Kyle's system and play designs. This is a good thing and what you want a QB to do.
Why are you so hell bent on the head coach getting the credit? I'm almost 50 years old and I have never known a group of fans who put the coach in front of the players. So damn strange lol
You were already incorrect on your first attempt on this, now you spinned into another and about to be corrected again.
Purdy is not throwing prayer balls and hoping the Aiyuk is there. Aiyuk should be in that area and no where else
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Originally posted by thl408:
Yes, Brock threw Aiyuk open. I agree with Chase(?) that Aiyuk was running more of a Dig. Brock led him to a more open area by leading him to the Post. It is not a 'route adjustment' only because that term is reserved for when the WR changes his route based off the coverage he is seeing (as part of the play's design). I didn't come up with these terms, that's just what it's called. I see where the confusion started now.
The spot that Purdy threw it to Aiyuk was NOT the route nor the design. He does this A LOT. That is Purdy, not Kyle.
Continue worshipping the coach though by all means if that makes you feel good.
You can't run a dig and continue to go deep. Aiyuk was the deep option while Kittle was the shorter option in that play call. digs are not deep options as they stop going vertical
for you to be correct, Purdy gambled and threw the ball to where no receiver should be (before his receiver makes his break) while simultaneously Aiyuk running the wrong route (without knowing since he has his back to the QB and before he made his break).
just some back yard ball going on.. and with no mention of it in the presser.. got it
lol
No, it was 100% a DIG. Not sure where you're getting it wasn't.
Kyle confirmed it was a Dagger concept, from that formation it's what Kyle calls a, "widen dover" which dover is his name for a DIG. His "dig" is an 18 yard stop route down the seam.
You can see from the all-22, that Aiyik breaks to the middle sees ball thrown and then adjusts vertical to the throw.
And no, Kittle wasn't the short option. He ran a thru route which is the route vs MOFC.
Not to be a jackhole here, but you're being pretty snarky for something you're wrong on.
If I wasn't using my comp for watching the games right now I'd post the play along with the all-22 but that's 30 min of my time. You can go watch my Seahawks review and that's the last play I cover.
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:one thing for sure, it's not a dig route. If it was a dig that ball is overthrown easy... thats if you know what a dig route is
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:hell bent ? Not hell bent, but it is false. Your interpretation of what happened is not a fact. so I'm not sure why a 50 YO is so hell bent to make things up to spite the coach.
Because Aiyuk's route was FLAT. Purdy threw it more like a post, AWAY from Aiyuk's route path. That's outside the structure of the play/route. Not to mention the check down was wide open. As I keep saying, Purdy is pushing the limits of Kyle's system and play designs. This is a good thing and what you want a QB to do.
Why are you so hell bent on the head coach getting the credit? I'm almost 50 years old and I have never known a group of fans who put the coach in front of the players. So damn strange lol
You were already incorrect on your first attempt on this, now you spinned into another and about to be corrected again.
Purdy is not throwing prayer balls and hoping the Aiyuk is there. Aiyuk should be in that area and no where else
Read
Originally posted by thl408:
Yes, Brock threw Aiyuk open. I agree with Chase(?) that Aiyuk was running more of a Dig. Brock led him to a more open area by leading him to the Post. It is not a 'route adjustment' only because that term is reserved for when the WR changes his route based off the coverage he is seeing (as part of the play's design). I didn't come up with these terms, that's just what it's called. I see where the confusion started now.
The spot that Purdy threw it to Aiyuk was NOT the route nor the design. He does this A LOT. That is Purdy, not Kyle.
Continue worshipping the coach though by all means if that makes you feel good.
You can't run a dig and continue to go deep. Aiyuk was the deep option while Kittle was the shorter option in that play call. digs are not deep options as they stop going vertical
for you to be correct, Purdy gambled and threw the ball to where no receiver should be (before his receiver makes his break) while simultaneously Aiyuk running the wrong route (without knowing since he has his back to the QB and before he made his break).
just some back yard ball going on.. and with no mention of it in the presser.. got it
lol
No, it was 100% a DIG. Not sure where you're getting it wasn't.
Kyle confirmed it was a Dagger concept, from that formation it's what Kyle calls a, "widen dover" which dover is his name for a DIG. His "dig" is an 18 yard stop route down the seam.
You can see from the all-22, that Aiyik breaks to the middle sees ball thrown and then adjusts vertical to the throw.
And no, Kittle wasn't the short option. He ran a thru route which is the route vs MOFC.
Not to be a jackhole here, but you're being pretty snarky for something you're wrong on.
If I wasn't using my comp for watching the games right now I'd post the play along with the all-22 but that's 30 min of my time. You can go watch my Seahawks review and that's the last play I cover.
Originally posted by Crown:
will take all 3 phases.
can't be one of those games that relies on one side of the ball to win.
Originally posted by jonnydel:Digs don't go vertical. If BA ran a dig that ball gets overthrown. In no way does BA run a lazy enough route where he can break off his route called without knowing where the ball would be after the ball was thrown. Some may be reading into that in step as being a dig but it couldn't be
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:one thing for sure, it's not a dig route. If it was a dig that ball is overthrown easy... thats if you know what a dig route is
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:hell bent ? Not hell bent, but it is false. Your interpretation of what happened is not a fact. so I'm not sure why a 50 YO is so hell bent to make things up to spite the coach.
Because Aiyuk's route was FLAT. Purdy threw it more like a post, AWAY from Aiyuk's route path. That's outside the structure of the play/route. Not to mention the check down was wide open. As I keep saying, Purdy is pushing the limits of Kyle's system and play designs. This is a good thing and what you want a QB to do.
Why are you so hell bent on the head coach getting the credit? I'm almost 50 years old and I have never known a group of fans who put the coach in front of the players. So damn strange lol
You were already incorrect on your first attempt on this, now you spinned into another and about to be corrected again.
Purdy is not throwing prayer balls and hoping the Aiyuk is there. Aiyuk should be in that area and no where else
Read
Originally posted by thl408:
Yes, Brock threw Aiyuk open. I agree with Chase(?) that Aiyuk was running more of a Dig. Brock led him to a more open area by leading him to the Post. It is not a 'route adjustment' only because that term is reserved for when the WR changes his route based off the coverage he is seeing (as part of the play's design). I didn't come up with these terms, that's just what it's called. I see where the confusion started now.
The spot that Purdy threw it to Aiyuk was NOT the route nor the design. He does this A LOT. That is Purdy, not Kyle.
Continue worshipping the coach though by all means if that makes you feel good.
You can't run a dig and continue to go deep. Aiyuk was the deep option while Kittle was the shorter option in that play call. digs are not deep options as they stop going vertical
for you to be correct, Purdy gambled and threw the ball to where no receiver should be (before his receiver makes his break) while simultaneously Aiyuk running the wrong route (without knowing since he has his back to the QB and before he made his break).
just some back yard ball going on.. and with no mention of it in the presser.. got it
lol
No, it was 100% a DIG. Not sure where you're getting it wasn't.
Kyle confirmed it was a Dagger concept, from that formation it's what Kyle calls a, "widen dover" which dover is his name for a DIG. His "dig" is an 18 yard stop route down the seam.
You can see from the all-22, that Aiyik breaks to the middle sees ball thrown and then adjusts vertical to the throw.
And no, Kittle wasn't the short option. He ran a thru route which is the route vs MOFC.
Not to be a jackhole here, but you're being pretty snarky for something you're wrong on.
If I wasn't using my comp for watching the games right now I'd post the play along with the all-22 but that's 30 min of my time. You can go watch my Seahawks review and that's the last play I cover.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by jonnydel:Digs don't go vertical. If BA ran a dig that ball gets overthrown. In no way does BA run a lazy enough route where he can break off his route called without knowing where the ball would be after the ball was thrown. Some may be reading into that in step as being a dig but it couldn't be
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:one thing for sure, it's not a dig route. If it was a dig that ball is overthrown easy... thats if you know what a dig route is
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:hell bent ? Not hell bent, but it is false. Your interpretation of what happened is not a fact. so I'm not sure why a 50 YO is so hell bent to make things up to spite the coach.
Because Aiyuk's route was FLAT. Purdy threw it more like a post, AWAY from Aiyuk's route path. That's outside the structure of the play/route. Not to mention the check down was wide open. As I keep saying, Purdy is pushing the limits of Kyle's system and play designs. This is a good thing and what you want a QB to do.
Why are you so hell bent on the head coach getting the credit? I'm almost 50 years old and I have never known a group of fans who put the coach in front of the players. So damn strange lol
You were already incorrect on your first attempt on this, now you spinned into another and about to be corrected again.
Purdy is not throwing prayer balls and hoping the Aiyuk is there. Aiyuk should be in that area and no where else
Read
Originally posted by thl408:
Yes, Brock threw Aiyuk open. I agree with Chase(?) that Aiyuk was running more of a Dig. Brock led him to a more open area by leading him to the Post. It is not a 'route adjustment' only because that term is reserved for when the WR changes his route based off the coverage he is seeing (as part of the play's design). I didn't come up with these terms, that's just what it's called. I see where the confusion started now.
The spot that Purdy threw it to Aiyuk was NOT the route nor the design. He does this A LOT. That is Purdy, not Kyle.
Continue worshipping the coach though by all means if that makes you feel good.
You can't run a dig and continue to go deep. Aiyuk was the deep option while Kittle was the shorter option in that play call. digs are not deep options as they stop going vertical
for you to be correct, Purdy gambled and threw the ball to where no receiver should be (before his receiver makes his break) while simultaneously Aiyuk running the wrong route (without knowing since he has his back to the QB and before he made his break).
just some back yard ball going on.. and with no mention of it in the presser.. got it
lol
No, it was 100% a DIG. Not sure where you're getting it wasn't.
Kyle confirmed it was a Dagger concept, from that formation it's what Kyle calls a, "widen dover" which dover is his name for a DIG. His "dig" is an 18 yard stop route down the seam.
You can see from the all-22, that Aiyik breaks to the middle sees ball thrown and then adjusts vertical to the throw.
And no, Kittle wasn't the short option. He ran a thru route which is the route vs MOFC.
Not to be a jackhole here, but you're being pretty snarky for something you're wrong on.
If I wasn't using my comp for watching the games right now I'd post the play along with the all-22 but that's 30 min of my time. You can go watch my Seahawks review and that's the last play I cover.
Like i said, the chance of two players throwing and running to where they shouldn't be and connecting is pretty wild. Throw in that both of them didn't know the ball was thrown or know the receiver ran a different route. Which is what furlow is saying. "Purdy and BA are not playing what Kyle called"
Originally posted by Crown:
is thier TE playing? he is sneaky good.
Originally posted by Furlow:no matter who breaks down the film, it's all opinion which has been said multiple times by Cosell, Jto, Chase.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by jonnydel:Digs don't go vertical. If BA ran a dig that ball gets overthrown. In no way does BA run a lazy enough route where he can break off his route called without knowing where the ball would be after the ball was thrown. Some may be reading into that in step as being a dig but it couldn't be
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:one thing for sure, it's not a dig route. If it was a dig that ball is overthrown easy... thats if you know what a dig route is
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:hell bent ? Not hell bent, but it is false. Your interpretation of what happened is not a fact. so I'm not sure why a 50 YO is so hell bent to make things up to spite the coach.
Because Aiyuk's route was FLAT. Purdy threw it more like a post, AWAY from Aiyuk's route path. That's outside the structure of the play/route. Not to mention the check down was wide open. As I keep saying, Purdy is pushing the limits of Kyle's system and play designs. This is a good thing and what you want a QB to do.
Why are you so hell bent on the head coach getting the credit? I'm almost 50 years old and I have never known a group of fans who put the coach in front of the players. So damn strange lol
You were already incorrect on your first attempt on this, now you spinned into another and about to be corrected again.
Purdy is not throwing prayer balls and hoping the Aiyuk is there. Aiyuk should be in that area and no where else
Read
Originally posted by thl408:
Yes, Brock threw Aiyuk open. I agree with Chase(?) that Aiyuk was running more of a Dig. Brock led him to a more open area by leading him to the Post. It is not a 'route adjustment' only because that term is reserved for when the WR changes his route based off the coverage he is seeing (as part of the play's design). I didn't come up with these terms, that's just what it's called. I see where the confusion started now.
The spot that Purdy threw it to Aiyuk was NOT the route nor the design. He does this A LOT. That is Purdy, not Kyle.
Continue worshipping the coach though by all means if that makes you feel good.
You can't run a dig and continue to go deep. Aiyuk was the deep option while Kittle was the shorter option in that play call. digs are not deep options as they stop going vertical
for you to be correct, Purdy gambled and threw the ball to where no receiver should be (before his receiver makes his break) while simultaneously Aiyuk running the wrong route (without knowing since he has his back to the QB and before he made his break).
just some back yard ball going on.. and with no mention of it in the presser.. got it
lol
No, it was 100% a DIG. Not sure where you're getting it wasn't.
Kyle confirmed it was a Dagger concept, from that formation it's what Kyle calls a, "widen dover" which dover is his name for a DIG. His "dig" is an 18 yard stop route down the seam.
You can see from the all-22, that Aiyik breaks to the middle sees ball thrown and then adjusts vertical to the throw.
And no, Kittle wasn't the short option. He ran a thru route which is the route vs MOFC.
Not to be a jackhole here, but you're being pretty snarky for something you're wrong on.
If I wasn't using my comp for watching the games right now I'd post the play along with the all-22 but that's 30 min of my time. You can go watch my Seahawks review and that's the last play I cover.
Like i said, the chance of two players throwing and running to where they shouldn't be and connecting is pretty wild. Throw in that both of them didn't know the ball was thrown or know the receiver ran a different route. Which is what furlow is saying. "Purdy and BA are not playing what Kyle called"
Watch the all-22, dude. Aiyuk CLEARLY breaks IN and THEN changes his route vertically after he sees the pass coming in. At this point you're arguing against Chase Daniel (a former NFL QB and current analyst) and jonnydel who knows the most about the Niners offense of anyone on the Zone. Come on now.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:no matter who breaks down the film, it's all opinion which has been said multiple times by Cosell, Jto, Chase.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by jonnydel:Digs don't go vertical. If BA ran a dig that ball gets overthrown. In no way does BA run a lazy enough route where he can break off his route called without knowing where the ball would be after the ball was thrown. Some may be reading into that in step as being a dig but it couldn't be
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:one thing for sure, it's not a dig route. If it was a dig that ball is overthrown easy... thats if you know what a dig route is
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:hell bent ? Not hell bent, but it is false. Your interpretation of what happened is not a fact. so I'm not sure why a 50 YO is so hell bent to make things up to spite the coach.
Because Aiyuk's route was FLAT. Purdy threw it more like a post, AWAY from Aiyuk's route path. That's outside the structure of the play/route. Not to mention the check down was wide open. As I keep saying, Purdy is pushing the limits of Kyle's system and play designs. This is a good thing and what you want a QB to do.
Why are you so hell bent on the head coach getting the credit? I'm almost 50 years old and I have never known a group of fans who put the coach in front of the players. So damn strange lol
You were already incorrect on your first attempt on this, now you spinned into another and about to be corrected again.
Purdy is not throwing prayer balls and hoping the Aiyuk is there. Aiyuk should be in that area and no where else
Read
Originally posted by thl408:
Yes, Brock threw Aiyuk open. I agree with Chase(?) that Aiyuk was running more of a Dig. Brock led him to a more open area by leading him to the Post. It is not a 'route adjustment' only because that term is reserved for when the WR changes his route based off the coverage he is seeing (as part of the play's design). I didn't come up with these terms, that's just what it's called. I see where the confusion started now.
The spot that Purdy threw it to Aiyuk was NOT the route nor the design. He does this A LOT. That is Purdy, not Kyle.
Continue worshipping the coach though by all means if that makes you feel good.
You can't run a dig and continue to go deep. Aiyuk was the deep option while Kittle was the shorter option in that play call. digs are not deep options as they stop going vertical
for you to be correct, Purdy gambled and threw the ball to where no receiver should be (before his receiver makes his break) while simultaneously Aiyuk running the wrong route (without knowing since he has his back to the QB and before he made his break).
just some back yard ball going on.. and with no mention of it in the presser.. got it
lol
No, it was 100% a DIG. Not sure where you're getting it wasn't.
Kyle confirmed it was a Dagger concept, from that formation it's what Kyle calls a, "widen dover" which dover is his name for a DIG. His "dig" is an 18 yard stop route down the seam.
You can see from the all-22, that Aiyik breaks to the middle sees ball thrown and then adjusts vertical to the throw.
And no, Kittle wasn't the short option. He ran a thru route which is the route vs MOFC.
Not to be a jackhole here, but you're being pretty snarky for something you're wrong on.
If I wasn't using my comp for watching the games right now I'd post the play along with the all-22 but that's 30 min of my time. You can go watch my Seahawks review and that's the last play I cover.
Like i said, the chance of two players throwing and running to where they shouldn't be and connecting is pretty wild. Throw in that both of them didn't know the ball was thrown or know the receiver ran a different route. Which is what furlow is saying. "Purdy and BA are not playing what Kyle called"
Watch the all-22, dude. Aiyuk CLEARLY breaks IN and THEN changes his route vertically after he sees the pass coming in. At this point you're arguing against Chase Daniel (a former NFL QB and current analyst) and jonnydel who knows the most about the Niners offense of anyone on the Zone. Come on now.
that extra step is just a step and not a route. There are posts that have that move in them.
But this is not about Chase or whoever. this is about what you said That both player did not follow the play called to spite the coach
Originally posted by RickyRoma:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Personally, I *don't want* to see that. Because if you take away Kittle, Deebo, Aiyuk and CMC, you will have a below average offense and a non-playoff team. Again, football is a *team* game - don't forget that. What would Joe and Steve be without Jerry and Haley/Fred Dean. l look at Steve after Seifert traded away Haley, Steve could have had multiple super bowls *but for* the stupidity of Seifert. (as an example).
I think one of the reasons Purdy wasn't drafted high is the inability of evaluators to separate Brock's contribution to his College Offense vs. Charlie Kolar, Breece Hall, and Xavier Hutchenson contribution to their offense. I.e. did Joe make Jerry a hall of famer, or did Jerry make Joe a hall of famer? I think that's one of the biggest reasons that a QB drops in the draft is because of the inability of draft evaluators to separate the individuals contribution to the team contribution.
I'm not talking about taking every talented player away....but I am simply being realistic. The way the kid is playing, he's gonna get $50M+ a season...perhaps more. The team simply will not be able to keep all of its top end talent when that happens. If Purdy keeps ascending as an indivual talent, then SF can still maintain its current pace even while losing a Kittle or CMC or Deebo.
Montana was a 2 time SB champion/MVP before Rice ever stepped foot on an NFL field....he was already Canton-bound. He's the extreme case of a guy who made others around him better players. Of course, he needed a lot of talent around him to win Super Bowls, but he had the ability to carry more teammates than pretty much every QB in history. As for Steve Young? Yeah...the team was obviously hurt by the loss of Haley, but if we're honest about it....Young himself was not a big time player in the post season. He was certainly no Joe.