Originally posted by Furlow:yes, you said Purdy and Aiuyk are doing their own thing.. going against what was called. You backing off that statement now ?
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:no matter who breaks down the film, it's all opinion which has been said multiple times by Cosell, Jto, Chase.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by jonnydel:Digs don't go vertical. If BA ran a dig that ball gets overthrown. In no way does BA run a lazy enough route where he can break off his route called without knowing where the ball would be after the ball was thrown. Some may be reading into that in step as being a dig but it couldn't be
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:one thing for sure, it's not a dig route. If it was a dig that ball is overthrown easy... thats if you know what a dig route is
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:hell bent ? Not hell bent, but it is false. Your interpretation of what happened is not a fact. so I'm not sure why a 50 YO is so hell bent to make things up to spite the coach.
Because Aiyuk's route was FLAT. Purdy threw it more like a post, AWAY from Aiyuk's route path. That's outside the structure of the play/route. Not to mention the check down was wide open. As I keep saying, Purdy is pushing the limits of Kyle's system and play designs. This is a good thing and what you want a QB to do.
Why are you so hell bent on the head coach getting the credit? I'm almost 50 years old and I have never known a group of fans who put the coach in front of the players. So damn strange lol
You were already incorrect on your first attempt on this, now you spinned into another and about to be corrected again.
Purdy is not throwing prayer balls and hoping the Aiyuk is there. Aiyuk should be in that area and no where else
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Originally posted by thl408:
Yes, Brock threw Aiyuk open. I agree with Chase(?) that Aiyuk was running more of a Dig. Brock led him to a more open area by leading him to the Post. It is not a 'route adjustment' only because that term is reserved for when the WR changes his route based off the coverage he is seeing (as part of the play's design). I didn't come up with these terms, that's just what it's called. I see where the confusion started now.
The spot that Purdy threw it to Aiyuk was NOT the route nor the design. He does this A LOT. That is Purdy, not Kyle.
Continue worshipping the coach though by all means if that makes you feel good.
You can't run a dig and continue to go deep. Aiyuk was the deep option while Kittle was the shorter option in that play call. digs are not deep options as they stop going vertical
for you to be correct, Purdy gambled and threw the ball to where no receiver should be (before his receiver makes his break) while simultaneously Aiyuk running the wrong route (without knowing since he has his back to the QB and before he made his break).
just some back yard ball going on.. and with no mention of it in the presser.. got it
lol
No, it was 100% a DIG. Not sure where you're getting it wasn't.
Kyle confirmed it was a Dagger concept, from that formation it's what Kyle calls a, "widen dover" which dover is his name for a DIG. His "dig" is an 18 yard stop route down the seam.
You can see from the all-22, that Aiyik breaks to the middle sees ball thrown and then adjusts vertical to the throw.
And no, Kittle wasn't the short option. He ran a thru route which is the route vs MOFC.
Not to be a jackhole here, but you're being pretty snarky for something you're wrong on.
If I wasn't using my comp for watching the games right now I'd post the play along with the all-22 but that's 30 min of my time. You can go watch my Seahawks review and that's the last play I cover.
Like i said, the chance of two players throwing and running to where they shouldn't be and connecting is pretty wild. Throw in that both of them didn't know the ball was thrown or know the receiver ran a different route. Which is what furlow is saying. "Purdy and BA are not playing what Kyle called"
Watch the all-22, dude. Aiyuk CLEARLY breaks IN and THEN changes his route vertically after he sees the pass coming in. At this point you're arguing against Chase Daniel (a former NFL QB and current analyst) and jonnydel who knows the most about the Niners offense of anyone on the Zone. Come on now.
that extra step is just a step and not a route. There are posts that have that move in them.
But this is not about Chase or whoever. this is about what you said That both player did not follow the play called to spite the coach
To spite the coach? Lol dude what on earth. Do you watch any Chiefs games? Do you see how often Mahomes and Kelce do things outside of the play structure? A LOT. Do you think they're doing it to spite Reid, or to win the game?
As far as Aiyuk's route, he broke in and flat. Clearly. You're just being weird at this point, arguing just to argue.
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Dec 3, 2023 at 1:25 PM
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Dec 3, 2023 at 1:37 PM
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:yes, you said Purdy and Aiuyk are doing their own thing.. going against what was called. You backing off that statement now ?
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:no matter who breaks down the film, it's all opinion which has been said multiple times by Cosell, Jto, Chase.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by jonnydel:Digs don't go vertical. If BA ran a dig that ball gets overthrown. In no way does BA run a lazy enough route where he can break off his route called without knowing where the ball would be after the ball was thrown. Some may be reading into that in step as being a dig but it couldn't be
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:one thing for sure, it's not a dig route. If it was a dig that ball is overthrown easy... thats if you know what a dig route is
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:hell bent ? Not hell bent, but it is false. Your interpretation of what happened is not a fact. so I'm not sure why a 50 YO is so hell bent to make things up to spite the coach.
Because Aiyuk's route was FLAT. Purdy threw it more like a post, AWAY from Aiyuk's route path. That's outside the structure of the play/route. Not to mention the check down was wide open. As I keep saying, Purdy is pushing the limits of Kyle's system and play designs. This is a good thing and what you want a QB to do.
Why are you so hell bent on the head coach getting the credit? I'm almost 50 years old and I have never known a group of fans who put the coach in front of the players. So damn strange lol
You were already incorrect on your first attempt on this, now you spinned into another and about to be corrected again.
Purdy is not throwing prayer balls and hoping the Aiyuk is there. Aiyuk should be in that area and no where else
Read
Originally posted by thl408:
Yes, Brock threw Aiyuk open. I agree with Chase(?) that Aiyuk was running more of a Dig. Brock led him to a more open area by leading him to the Post. It is not a 'route adjustment' only because that term is reserved for when the WR changes his route based off the coverage he is seeing (as part of the play's design). I didn't come up with these terms, that's just what it's called. I see where the confusion started now.
The spot that Purdy threw it to Aiyuk was NOT the route nor the design. He does this A LOT. That is Purdy, not Kyle.
Continue worshipping the coach though by all means if that makes you feel good.
You can't run a dig and continue to go deep. Aiyuk was the deep option while Kittle was the shorter option in that play call. digs are not deep options as they stop going vertical
for you to be correct, Purdy gambled and threw the ball to where no receiver should be (before his receiver makes his break) while simultaneously Aiyuk running the wrong route (without knowing since he has his back to the QB and before he made his break).
just some back yard ball going on.. and with no mention of it in the presser.. got it
lol
No, it was 100% a DIG. Not sure where you're getting it wasn't.
Kyle confirmed it was a Dagger concept, from that formation it's what Kyle calls a, "widen dover" which dover is his name for a DIG. His "dig" is an 18 yard stop route down the seam.
You can see from the all-22, that Aiyik breaks to the middle sees ball thrown and then adjusts vertical to the throw.
And no, Kittle wasn't the short option. He ran a thru route which is the route vs MOFC.
Not to be a jackhole here, but you're being pretty snarky for something you're wrong on.
If I wasn't using my comp for watching the games right now I'd post the play along with the all-22 but that's 30 min of my time. You can go watch my Seahawks review and that's the last play I cover.
Like i said, the chance of two players throwing and running to where they shouldn't be and connecting is pretty wild. Throw in that both of them didn't know the ball was thrown or know the receiver ran a different route. Which is what furlow is saying. "Purdy and BA are not playing what Kyle called"
Watch the all-22, dude. Aiyuk CLEARLY breaks IN and THEN changes his route vertically after he sees the pass coming in. At this point you're arguing against Chase Daniel (a former NFL QB and current analyst) and jonnydel who knows the most about the Niners offense of anyone on the Zone. Come on now.
that extra step is just a step and not a route. There are posts that have that move in them.
But this is not about Chase or whoever. this is about what you said That both player did not follow the play called to spite the coach
To spite the coach? Lol dude what on earth. Do you watch any Chiefs games? Do you see how often Mahomes and Kelce do things outside of the play structure? A LOT. Do you think they're doing it to spite Reid, or to win the game?
As far as Aiyuk's route, he broke in and flat. Clearly. You're just being weird at this point, arguing just to argue.
It's outside of the structure of the play call and routes. It's a QB and WR making a play. It's what this offense has needed. I stand by my statement. Sorry if that hurts your feelings that Kyle isn't the one personally responsible for part of the team's success, but that's sports. The players play.
Dec 3, 2023 at 2:15 PM
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Originally posted by Furlow:
It's outside of the structure of the play call and routes.
False. This is such a video game mentality.
Dec 3, 2023 at 2:50 PM
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Thankfully he settled down a lot. We needed that.
Dec 3, 2023 at 2:52 PM
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Thankfully he settled down a lot. We needed that.
Eh, Eagles came out like it was the Super Bowl, that energy level is not sustainable. Expected adrenaline dump came and they look wilted. We'll see if they can pick it up in the 2nd half. Purdy is always calm and never panics, so refreshing to see.
Dec 3, 2023 at 4:15 PM
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He is him.
Dec 3, 2023 at 4:16 PM
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Originally posted by Eddie_D:
He is him.
He's been Him
Dec 3, 2023 at 4:19 PM
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Brock have won a critical match against Hurts in the MVP race.
Dec 3, 2023 at 4:28 PM
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Philly is soft they complain after big hits. They're fake tough.
Dec 3, 2023 at 4:30 PM
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Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
He's been Him
Him's name is BCB.
Dec 3, 2023 at 4:31 PM
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49ers were down early, and the offense was sluggish—but Purdy did what he needed to do. Give him all the credit in the world.
Dec 3, 2023 at 4:31 PM
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Dec 3, 2023 at 4:31 PM
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Kyle with a masterclass. Brock fantastic at playing the position. It's a symbiosis
Dec 3, 2023 at 4:31 PM
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Outside of the first few drive this was probably his best game yet. Stellar performance against the 2nd best team in the league
Dec 3, 2023 at 4:32 PM
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GIVE THIS MAN AN MVP TROPHY