Originally posted by Furlow:
Because Aiyuk's route was FLAT. Purdy threw it more like a post, AWAY from Aiyuk's route path. That's outside the structure of the play/route. Not to mention the check down was wide open. As I keep saying, Purdy is pushing the limits of Kyle's system and play designs. This is a good thing and what you want a QB to do.
Why are you so hell bent on the head coach getting the credit? I'm almost 50 years old and I have never known a group of fans who put the coach in front of the players. So damn strange lol
hell bent ? Not hell bent, but it is false. Your interpretation of what happened is not a fact. so I'm not sure why a 50 YO is so hell bent to make things up to spite the coach.
You were already incorrect on your first attempt on this, now you spinned into another and about to be corrected again.
Purdy is not throwing prayer balls and hoping the Aiyuk is there. Aiyuk should be in that area and no where else
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Originally posted by thl408:
Yes, Brock threw Aiyuk open. I agree with Chase(?) that Aiyuk was running more of a Dig. Brock led him to a more open area by leading him to the Post. It is not a 'route adjustment' only because that term is reserved for when the WR changes his route based off the coverage he is seeing (as part of the play's design). I didn't come up with these terms, that's just what it's called. I see where the confusion started now.
The spot that Purdy threw it to Aiyuk was NOT the route nor the design. He does this A LOT. That is Purdy, not Kyle.
Continue worshipping the coach though by all means if that makes you feel good.
one thing for sure, it's not a dig route. If it was a dig that ball is overthrown easy... thats if you know what a dig route is
You can't run a dig and continue to go deep. Aiyuk was the deep option while Kittle was the shorter option in that play call. digs are not deep options as they stop going vertical
for you to be correct, Purdy gambled and threw the ball to where no receiver should be (before his receiver makes his break) while simultaneously Aiyuk running the wrong route (without knowing since he has his back to the QB and before he made his break).
just some back yard ball going on.. and with no mention of it in the presser.. got it
lol
No, it was 100% a DIG. Not sure where you're getting it wasn't.
Kyle confirmed it was a Dagger concept, from that formation it's what Kyle calls a, "widen dover" which dover is his name for a DIG. His "dig" is an 18 yard stop route down the seam.
You can see from the all-22, that Aiyik breaks to the middle sees ball thrown and then adjusts vertical to the throw.
And no, Kittle wasn't the short option. He ran a thru route which is the route vs MOFC.
Not to be a jackhole here, but you're being pretty snarky for something you're wrong on.
If I wasn't using my comp for watching the games right now I'd post the play along with the all-22 but that's 30 min of my time. You can go watch my Seahawks review and that's the last play I cover.
Digs don't go vertical. If BA ran a dig that ball gets overthrown. In no way does BA run a lazy enough route where he can break off his route called without knowing where the ball would be after the ball was thrown. Some may be reading into that in step as being a dig but it couldn't be
Like i said, the chance of two players throwing and running to where they shouldn't be and connecting is pretty wild. Throw in that both of them didn't know the ball was thrown or know the receiver ran a different route. Which is what furlow is saying. "Purdy and BA are not playing what Kyle called"
Watch the all-22, dude. Aiyuk CLEARLY breaks IN and THEN changes his route vertically after he sees the pass coming in. At this point you're arguing against Chase Daniel (a former NFL QB and current analyst) and jonnydel who knows the most about the Niners offense of anyone on the Zone. Come on now.
no matter who breaks down the film, it's all opinion which has been said multiple times by Cosell, Jto, Chase.
that extra step is just a step and not a route. There are posts that have that move in them.
But this is not about Chase or whoever. this is about what you said That both player did not follow the play called to spite the coach
Kyle confirmed it was a Dagger. Don't know why this is an argument. It's a play we run like 3x a game every game.
I'm not saying it's a deep in just because. I've seen that play at least 40x the past 2 seasons. I think I know what it looks like.
So you agree with furlow that Purdy/Aiuyk is not following Kyle'a play call cause that is not Kyle's design ?
You're making a lot more out of it. It was a Dagger concept vs cover-3 buzz. The buzz safety didn't drop too far down, had depth but the FS and WILL grabbed Kittles thru route so Purdy led Aiyuk farther upfield, over the buzz safety. He led Aiyik into space. But the read was good in the 3rd level.
yeah. Kyle confirmed it was a dagger. end of discussion. I even tweeted his confirmation at you before you knew too haha
Too many only think about older, slower Brees when back in college and his early days with the Chargers he was a lot more mobile, capable of evading the pass rush, making throws on the run and taking off and running and always happy to take what the defense gave him.
Watching Purdy I see a lot of young Drew Brees and not just because they're both smaller QBs.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Brock is completing 72.9% of his passes on 3rd down while converting on 47.9% of them with 6 TD's, 0 INT's and a 132.4 passer rating. 6 TD's on 48 attempts is a 12.5% TD rate.
Those stat numbers are unreal.
I feel like his third down stats were a little down earlier in the season too.
Originally posted by Furlow:
Because Aiyuk's route was FLAT. Purdy threw it more like a post, AWAY from Aiyuk's route path. That's outside the structure of the play/route. Not to mention the check down was wide open. As I keep saying, Purdy is pushing the limits of Kyle's system and play designs. This is a good thing and what you want a QB to do.
Why are you so hell bent on the head coach getting the credit? I'm almost 50 years old and I have never known a group of fans who put the coach in front of the players. So damn strange lol
hell bent ? Not hell bent, but it is false. Your interpretation of what happened is not a fact. so I'm not sure why a 50 YO is so hell bent to make things up to spite the coach.
You were already incorrect on your first attempt on this, now you spinned into another and about to be corrected again.
Purdy is not throwing prayer balls and hoping the Aiyuk is there. Aiyuk should be in that area and no where else
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Originally posted by thl408:
Yes, Brock threw Aiyuk open. I agree with Chase(?) that Aiyuk was running more of a Dig. Brock led him to a more open area by leading him to the Post. It is not a 'route adjustment' only because that term is reserved for when the WR changes his route based off the coverage he is seeing (as part of the play's design). I didn't come up with these terms, that's just what it's called. I see where the confusion started now.
The spot that Purdy threw it to Aiyuk was NOT the route nor the design. He does this A LOT. That is Purdy, not Kyle.
Continue worshipping the coach though by all means if that makes you feel good.
one thing for sure, it's not a dig route. If it was a dig that ball is overthrown easy... thats if you know what a dig route is
You can't run a dig and continue to go deep. Aiyuk was the deep option while Kittle was the shorter option in that play call. digs are not deep options as they stop going vertical
for you to be correct, Purdy gambled and threw the ball to where no receiver should be (before his receiver makes his break) while simultaneously Aiyuk running the wrong route (without knowing since he has his back to the QB and before he made his break).
just some back yard ball going on.. and with no mention of it in the presser.. got it
lol
No, it was 100% a DIG. Not sure where you're getting it wasn't.
Kyle confirmed it was a Dagger concept, from that formation it's what Kyle calls a, "widen dover" which dover is his name for a DIG. His "dig" is an 18 yard stop route down the seam.
You can see from the all-22, that Aiyik breaks to the middle sees ball thrown and then adjusts vertical to the throw.
And no, Kittle wasn't the short option. He ran a thru route which is the route vs MOFC.
Not to be a jackhole here, but you're being pretty snarky for something you're wrong on.
If I wasn't using my comp for watching the games right now I'd post the play along with the all-22 but that's 30 min of my time. You can go watch my Seahawks review and that's the last play I cover.
Digs don't go vertical. If BA ran a dig that ball gets overthrown. In no way does BA run a lazy enough route where he can break off his route called without knowing where the ball would be after the ball was thrown. Some may be reading into that in step as being a dig but it couldn't be
Like i said, the chance of two players throwing and running to where they shouldn't be and connecting is pretty wild. Throw in that both of them didn't know the ball was thrown or know the receiver ran a different route. Which is what furlow is saying. "Purdy and BA are not playing what Kyle called"
Watch the all-22, dude. Aiyuk CLEARLY breaks IN and THEN changes his route vertically after he sees the pass coming in. At this point you're arguing against Chase Daniel (a former NFL QB and current analyst) and jonnydel who knows the most about the Niners offense of anyone on the Zone. Come on now.
no matter who breaks down the film, it's all opinion which has been said multiple times by Cosell, Jto, Chase.
that extra step is just a step and not a route. There are posts that have that move in them.
But this is not about Chase or whoever. this is about what you said That both player did not follow the play called to spite the coach
Kyle confirmed it was a Dagger. Don't know why this is an argument. It's a play we run like 3x a game every game.
I'm not saying it's a deep in just because. I've seen that play at least 40x the past 2 seasons. I think I know what it looks like.
So you agree with furlow that Purdy/Aiuyk is not following Kyle'a play call cause that is not Kyle's design ?
You're making a lot more out of it. It was a Dagger concept vs cover-3 buzz. The buzz safety didn't drop too far down, had depth but the FS and WILL grabbed Kittles thru route so Purdy led Aiyuk farther upfield, over the buzz safety. He led Aiyik into space. But the read was good in the 3rd level.
yeah. Kyle confirmed it was a dagger. end of discussion. I even tweeted his confirmation at you before you knew too haha
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Brock is completing 72.9% of his passes on 3rd down while converting on 47.9% of them with 6 TD's, 0 INT's and a 132.4 passer rating. 6 TD's on 48 attempts is a 12.5% TD rate.
Those stat numbers are unreal.
I feel like his third down stats were a little down earlier in the season too.
Where does he rank on 3rd downs, I do think it's one area we've been average at and not exceptional
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Brock is completing 72.9% of his passes on 3rd down while converting on 47.9% of them with 6 TD's, 0 INT's and a 132.4 passer rating. 6 TD's on 48 attempts is a 12.5% TD rate.
Those stat numbers are unreal.
I feel like his third down stats were a little down earlier in the season too.
Where does he rank on 3rd downs, I do think it's one area we've been average at and not exceptional
other than the 1st quarter, seemed pretty damn exceptional last night on 3rd down to me
respect that they didn't make excuses - just gave credit where credits was due. That's good journalism. Or whatever the hell it's called thay they do. Commentary? Lol
I've watch a bit of these guys before. They are fun. Shady is ultra bias on anything Eagles related, but everything else in general, he appreciates and credits good football and doesn't downplay as such. Acho been on point when it comes to the Niners this year.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Brock is completing 72.9% of his passes on 3rd down while converting on 47.9% of them with 6 TD's, 0 INT's and a 132.4 passer rating. 6 TD's on 48 attempts is a 12.5% TD rate.
Those stat numbers are unreal.
I feel like his third down stats were a little down earlier in the season too.
Where does he rank on 3rd downs, I do think it's one area we've been average at and not exceptional
other than the 1st quarter, seemed pretty damn exceptional last night on 3rd down to me
Not sure at the moment but 47.9% would have put him in the top 5 last season.
Originally posted by tankle104:
Can't wait for us to win the super bowl and see dope videos of kittle saying "I'll be back. I'll be back with a mofkn vengeance"…. Then it shows clips of Brock dropping dimes to kittle scoring. It'll be a beautiful thing
I have no idea how I would be able to handle the 9ers going to the SB in Vegas. I mean, man. And I thought the Stanley Cup Final was awesome. I just cannot imagine
I'll be going down there if they do. We can meet up and cry of joy kn each other's "shoulders"
It truly is amazing what he is doing and his critics, some from our fanbase, should enjoy this historic form he is in. Few have accomplished something like this. The closest would be grocery bagger Kurt Warner who was putting fantastic numbers but still fall short of Purdy in all major categories except touchdown passes. Kurt and the greatest show was on crazy levels. I couldn't really hate those teams since we were in the my dark ages then.
