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Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:
Originally posted by tankle104:


respect that they didn't make excuses - just gave credit where credits was due. That's good journalism. Or whatever the hell it's called thay they do. Commentary? Lol
Homegirl is such a little snack.

LOL I was thinking the same thing. I think she's fine as all hell.

That's Shadys side chick and it's embarrassingly obvious.

Shady is smashing Joy Taylor???

nah shady got a big ol gut now
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
could argue aaron's 2020 and 2021 seasons were better

No way. Not in terms of his actual skill and ability. He was in a better system with an actual run threat though…
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by Wubbie:
Unfortunately, these "system QB" takes are just going to continue for Purdy as long as we have a stacked offense + Kyle Shanahan. For him to get the respect he deserves, it's going to take Brock having success with everyone getting injured--- and NOBODY is wishing for injuries.

Frustrating, because Brock Purdy is operating the Shanahan offense at its highest level since Matt Ryan won the MVP and took the Falcons to the Super Bowl.

Yesterday an article in The Athletic debunked all those "system" claims along with "weapons", play-callers, and the rest.

MVP seasons are ALWAYS about a QB on teams with all those pieces in place. Purdy is having one of those seasons.

2011 Aaron Rodgers had arguably the greatest season ever for a QB. Record 122.5 QB rating, 3rd best QBR all time 83.8, 45 TD's (9.0% TD rate), 6 INT's, 9.2 YPA. Simply amazing that year. His WR's were:

Jordy Nelson
Greg Jennings
Donald Driver
Randall Cobb
James Jones
Jermichael Finley (TE)
Ryan Grant (RB)

Kittle and CMC are definitely upgrades but that Packers WR group was special. No disrespect to Aiyuk and Deebo, but collectively our WR's are not on that level. Like you said, MVP's always have pieces around them.

That WR group and TE's was absolutely awesome. Probably the best they ever had. Yeah you need pieces around you. Look how Mahomes does without Tyreek Hill. Worse than usual. Surprise, surprise.

Mahomes won the MVP last year (deservedly) without Tyreek Hill.

Watch him this year. He doesn't throw down the field as good. He misses Tyreek and his 4.1 speed.
he's making the throws.. they are just being dropped

A QB is responsible for "ball placement" and "touch." I've been reading on the WZ for years that's the ONLY reason WR's and TE's and RB's ever drop the ball. It's on the QB.
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
could argue aaron's 2020 and 2021 seasons were better

No way. Not in terms of his actual skill and ability. He was in a better system with an actual run threat though…

oh i thought 48 tds and 5 picks 121 rating is pretty good

guess not
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by Wubbie:
Unfortunately, these "system QB" takes are just going to continue for Purdy as long as we have a stacked offense + Kyle Shanahan. For him to get the respect he deserves, it's going to take Brock having success with everyone getting injured--- and NOBODY is wishing for injuries.

Frustrating, because Brock Purdy is operating the Shanahan offense at its highest level since Matt Ryan won the MVP and took the Falcons to the Super Bowl.

Yesterday an article in The Athletic debunked all those "system" claims along with "weapons", play-callers, and the rest.

MVP seasons are ALWAYS about a QB on teams with all those pieces in place. Purdy is having one of those seasons.

2011 Aaron Rodgers had arguably the greatest season ever for a QB. Record 122.5 QB rating, 3rd best QBR all time 83.8, 45 TD's (9.0% TD rate), 6 INT's, 9.2 YPA. Simply amazing that year. His WR's were:

Jordy Nelson
Greg Jennings
Donald Driver
Randall Cobb
James Jones
Jermichael Finley (TE)
Ryan Grant (RB)

Kittle and CMC are definitely upgrades but that Packers WR group was special. No disrespect to Aiyuk and Deebo, but collectively our WR's are not on that level. Like you said, MVP's always have pieces around them.

That WR group and TE's was absolutely awesome. Probably the best they ever had. Yeah you need pieces around you. Look how Mahomes does without Tyreek Hill. Worse than usual. Surprise, surprise.

Mahomes won the MVP last year (deservedly) without Tyreek Hill.

Watch him this year. He doesn't throw down the field as good. He misses Tyreek and his 4.1 speed.
he's making the throws.. they are just being dropped

A QB is responsible for "ball placement" and "touch." I've been reading on the WZ for years that's the ONLY reason WR's and TE's and RB's ever drop the ball. It's on the QB.
you are right, but that statement was due to our prior QB not throwing the ball, and not passing options dropping the balls
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by Wubbie:
Another thing to point out in the whole other "Is Brock elite?" narrative, is that he doesn't make those "perfect throws that beat perfect coverage" that everyone goes gaga about. Which when you think about it... Shanahan doesn't need to make him attempt these high-difficulty throws because the scheme and the personnel is too good. And Brock's decision-making is so good that he can find another good option if the #1 option isn't open. He doesn't need to Hero Ball things.

I just wish though that media, fans would value his Anticipation more. Every film analysis I've seen from Jonnydel, JT O'Sullivan, Chase Daniel, etc... they go to great pains to point out that Brock Purdy's Anticipation is ELITE.

He has made a good number of those throws though. It is just that the wide-open throws are more prevalent.

The sideline throw to McCaffrey in Philly, though CMC was wide open, was a perfect throw. If the ball would have been anyplace else, there would have been no YAC.

The TD throw to BA last week against the Seahawks was about as perfect as anyone could imagine.

He also makes a LOT of shorter throws where the receiver doesn't have to slow his pace to catch the ball, thereby allowing YAC. Another example is the throws where he throttles down the receiver to avoid them taking a big hit. He had one of those to Kittle over the middle where George slowed to take the ball on his back shoulder which lined him up with only the safety in range to tackle him. Had he led GK it would have been a completion but George would have absorbed a hard hit just as he caught the ball.

Those are just some of the "perfect" passes that go unnoticed but they are perfect nonetheless. They do exactly what must be done for the play to succeed. That is the definition of perfection.

Agreed. I'm talking more about the throws where the QB fits it in, despite their receiver technically not being open. Which I think is just... bad decision-making if a QB forces things when there are other options open.

Though, are there any analytics about tight window throws? I'm curious how Brock Purdy fares in that metric.
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Originally posted by tankle104:
Through 17 games Purdy is 14-3 as a starter. Here are his numbers:

69.7 percent completion rate
4,283 passing yards
34 touchdown passes
8 interceptions
9.4 yards per attempt
116.9 passer rating

brocks stats in his first full year would nearly be record 49ers passing stats or top 2-3, if not 1. incredible.

Brock Purdy stats in 1st 17 regular season starts (usatoday.com)

Wow! 👀 in 1994 Steve Young was 33. Brock is doing Steve Young level production at 23!👀😳
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:
Originally posted by tankle104:


respect that they didn't make excuses - just gave credit where credits was due. That's good journalism. Or whatever the hell it's called thay they do. Commentary? Lol
Homegirl is such a little snack.

LOL I was thinking the same thing. I think she's fine as all hell.

That's Shadys side chick and it's embarrassingly obvious.

Shady is smashing Joy Taylor???

nah shady got a big ol gut now

So does she but I love me some thick girls...
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Originally posted by tankle104:

Not bad for a noodl.... never mind. Lol
Originally posted by Wubbie:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by Wubbie:
Another thing to point out in the whole other "Is Brock elite?" narrative, is that he doesn't make those "perfect throws that beat perfect coverage" that everyone goes gaga about. Which when you think about it... Shanahan doesn't need to make him attempt these high-difficulty throws because the scheme and the personnel is too good. And Brock's decision-making is so good that he can find another good option if the #1 option isn't open. He doesn't need to Hero Ball things.

I just wish though that media, fans would value his Anticipation more. Every film analysis I've seen from Jonnydel, JT O'Sullivan, Chase Daniel, etc... they go to great pains to point out that Brock Purdy's Anticipation is ELITE.

He has made a good number of those throws though. It is just that the wide-open throws are more prevalent.

The sideline throw to McCaffrey in Philly, though CMC was wide open, was a perfect throw. If the ball would have been anyplace else, there would have been no YAC.

The TD throw to BA last week against the Seahawks was about as perfect as anyone could imagine.

He also makes a LOT of shorter throws where the receiver doesn't have to slow his pace to catch the ball, thereby allowing YAC. Another example is the throws where he throttles down the receiver to avoid them taking a big hit. He had one of those to Kittle over the middle where George slowed to take the ball on his back shoulder which lined him up with only the safety in range to tackle him. Had he led GK it would have been a completion but George would have absorbed a hard hit just as he caught the ball.

Those are just some of the "perfect" passes that go unnoticed but they are perfect nonetheless. They do exactly what must be done for the play to succeed. That is the definition of perfection.

Agreed. I'm talking more about the throws where the QB fits it in, despite their receiver technically not being open. Which I think is just... bad decision-making if a QB forces things when there are other options open.

Though, are there any analytics about tight window throws? I'm curious how Brock Purdy fares in that metric.

When I think of a QB who "forces" the ball to receivers who aren't really open, I think of Josh Allen. He doesn't read or anticipate as well as Purdy so he has to rely on his cannon to run a 95 MPH fastball in at the last split second. Those are hard to catch and result in drops because they are hard to catch.

However, I see your point about those types of throws. It is just that Brock isn't required to throw them very often.
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by Wubbie:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by Wubbie:
Another thing to point out in the whole other "Is Brock elite?" narrative, is that he doesn't make those "perfect throws that beat perfect coverage" that everyone goes gaga about. Which when you think about it... Shanahan doesn't need to make him attempt these high-difficulty throws because the scheme and the personnel is too good. And Brock's decision-making is so good that he can find another good option if the #1 option isn't open. He doesn't need to Hero Ball things.

I just wish though that media, fans would value his Anticipation more. Every film analysis I've seen from Jonnydel, JT O'Sullivan, Chase Daniel, etc... they go to great pains to point out that Brock Purdy's Anticipation is ELITE.

He has made a good number of those throws though. It is just that the wide-open throws are more prevalent.

The sideline throw to McCaffrey in Philly, though CMC was wide open, was a perfect throw. If the ball would have been anyplace else, there would have been no YAC.

The TD throw to BA last week against the Seahawks was about as perfect as anyone could imagine.

He also makes a LOT of shorter throws where the receiver doesn't have to slow his pace to catch the ball, thereby allowing YAC. Another example is the throws where he throttles down the receiver to avoid them taking a big hit. He had one of those to Kittle over the middle where George slowed to take the ball on his back shoulder which lined him up with only the safety in range to tackle him. Had he led GK it would have been a completion but George would have absorbed a hard hit just as he caught the ball.

Those are just some of the "perfect" passes that go unnoticed but they are perfect nonetheless. They do exactly what must be done for the play to succeed. That is the definition of perfection.

Agreed. I'm talking more about the throws where the QB fits it in, despite their receiver technically not being open. Which I think is just... bad decision-making if a QB forces things when there are other options open.

Though, are there any analytics about tight window throws? I'm curious how Brock Purdy fares in that metric.

When I think of a QB who "forces" the ball to receivers who aren't really open, I think of Josh Allen. He doesn't read or anticipate as well as Purdy so he has to rely on his cannon to run a 95 MPH fastball in at the last split second. Those are hard to catch and result in drops because they are hard to catch.

However, I see your point about those types of throws. It is just that Brock isn't required to throw them very often.

Yeah! I think it's a shame that general fans and media pundits absolutely love seeing these types of throws, but they're not necessarily a good thing when you turn on the film.
Originally posted by tankle104:

You gotta stop with all these BP stats, I can't handle it haha

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