QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Certainly he processes better and throws very accurately.

He's inarguably a better pocket player than Hurts right now. Hurts has the added running element though and thats what makes him a good player at the position.

I don't think Hurts is very far ahead of Purdy when it comes to running, Purdy just doesn't look to run as much as Hurts, nor do the Niners design as many running plays for Purdy.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by Wubbie:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Certainly he processes better and throws very accurately.

He's inarguably a better pocket player than Hurts right now. Hurts has the added running element though and thats what makes him a good player at the position.

Not to veer too offtopic in the Purdy thread, but out of all the highly mobile QB's... what QB's consistently make it past their 2nd read?
Purdy makes going through progressions so effortless.

For a lot of teams, they only have two legitimate options. Kyle offers more options on every play than most teams have in their entire playbook...and Purdy sees them all. That is why the 49ers killed the Eagles - Hurts couldn't find the options and Purdy did.

Yeah, it's for this reason that Purdy needs more credit as a QB and an MVP candidate.

With all the playmakers we have, being able to seriously threaten with 3, 4, 5 different playmaking receivers is what makes our offense so unstoppable. If a QB came in and could only find up to the 2nd read, then he'd be limiting the offense.

Originally posted by jonnydel:

One of the things I love about Purdy is that he doesn't overcomplicate things for himself. This is a flow concept (HB releases to make it 4 strong) that's obviously supposed to have him start frontside, but he sees the free access for the X's out and alerts it. Catch, drop step,… pic.twitter.com/Rs5w9Kx1rF

— Honest NFL (@TheHonestNFL) December 5, 2023

Yeah, whole bunch of potential traffic on top or Aiyuk down at the bottom with a whole bunch of space to the right and just 1 defender on top of him. And it even looks that way post snap

Originally posted by gold49digger:
Most critics of Purdy shown how little they watch football. The biggest one I hear is that he's a checkdown merchant. Which is literally the opposite of his play style. He is a low key gunslinger. I guess when you judge a person on their appearance, you just assume they play like a Kirk Cousins. I hope they keep the same energy when he gets this team a ring. The more they hate, the more it fuels Brock.

Calling Purdy a checkdown merchant confirms to me that someone doesn't watch the games.
IIRC, he's highest in air yards per throw, or is up there?

I haven't seen an updated pass distribution chart, but it feels like Purdy makes his money in the intermediate,10-20 yards down the field area.

Originally posted by Wubbie:

Originally posted by gold49digger:
Most critics of Purdy shown how little they watch football. The biggest one I hear is that he's a checkdown merchant. Which is literally the opposite of his play style. He is a low key gunslinger. I guess when you judge a person on their appearance, you just assume they play like a Kirk Cousins. I hope they keep the same energy when he gets this team a ring. The more they hate, the more it fuels Brock.

Calling Purdy a checkdown merchant confirms to me that someone doesn't watch the games.
IIRC, he's highest in air yards per throw, or is up there?

I haven't seen an updated pass distribution chart, but it feels like Purdy makes his money in the intermediate,10-20 yards down the field area.

Kyle usually wants to make the life of LBs miserable. That's the area in front and behind the backers. Coincidence? I think not.

Originally posted by gold49digger:
Most critics of Purdy shown how little they watch football. The biggest one I hear is that he's a checkdown merchant. Which is literally the opposite of his play style. He is a low key gunslinger. I guess when you judge a person on their appearance, you just assume they play like a Kirk Cousins. I hope they keep the same energy when he gets this team a ring. The more they hate, the more it fuels Brock.

Eh, Cousins isn't a chuckdown charlie either.

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Certainly he processes better and throws very accurately.

He's inarguably a better pocket player than Hurts right now. Hurts has the added running element though and thats what makes him a good player at the position.

I don't think Hurts is very far ahead of Purdy when it comes to running, Purdy just doesn't look to run as much as Hurts, nor do the Niners design as many running plays for Purdy.

Purdy isn't build like Hurts. Even if he has some quickness, he won't survive the same beating. And there's no need for it, so it hardly matters.

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Originally posted by Wubbie:

Originally posted by gold49digger:
Most critics of Purdy shown how little they watch football. The biggest one I hear is that he's a checkdown merchant. Which is literally the opposite of his play style. He is a low key gunslinger. I guess when you judge a person on their appearance, you just assume they play like a Kirk Cousins. I hope they keep the same energy when he gets this team a ring. The more they hate, the more it fuels Brock.

Calling Purdy a checkdown merchant confirms to me that someone doesn't watch the games.
IIRC, he's highest in air yards per throw, or is up there?

I haven't seen an updated pass distribution chart, but it feels like Purdy makes his money in the intermediate,10-20 yards down the field area.

Kyle usually wants to make the life of LBs miserable. That's the area in front and behind the backers. Coincidence? I think not.

What playoff teams have the linebackers that can contend up with our scheme?
I feel like our own defense is one of the few. Training camp must've been fun to watch our scheme against Warner and Greenlaw.

Originally posted by Wubbie:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Originally posted by Wubbie:

Originally posted by gold49digger:
Most critics of Purdy shown how little they watch football. The biggest one I hear is that he's a checkdown merchant. Which is literally the opposite of his play style. He is a low key gunslinger. I guess when you judge a person on their appearance, you just assume they play like a Kirk Cousins. I hope they keep the same energy when he gets this team a ring. The more they hate, the more it fuels Brock.

Calling Purdy a checkdown merchant confirms to me that someone doesn't watch the games.
IIRC, he's highest in air yards per throw, or is up there?

I haven't seen an updated pass distribution chart, but it feels like Purdy makes his money in the intermediate,10-20 yards down the field area.

Kyle usually wants to make the life of LBs miserable. That's the area in front and behind the backers. Coincidence? I think not.

What playoff teams have the linebackers that can contend up with our scheme?
I feel like our own defense is one of the few. Training camp must've been fun to watch our scheme against Warner and Greenlaw.

I'm sure those matchups made both them and our offense better.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:
Sooo, have the defenses had enough time to figure him out yet?

He'll never get figured out because he has CMC. The minute defenses focus on Brock and try to do those exotic coverages and weird zone blitzes, Pudy will just call on CMC to run the ball and calm those defenses down.

To me, Brock is now in the category of other elite QBs where there is no clear weakness to his game so the only way to defend him is to apply pressure with four rushers, mix up the coverages, and hope it works.

He dissects zones. He doesn't panic when blitzed. He is confident in his arm to make tight throws into man coverage.

Agree💯%, that's pretty much the only way you stop elite QB's that can pass the ball. Rush 4, drop 7. The minute you do blitzes and change the equation to rush 5+ drop less than 7, guys like Purdy can feel the holes in the defense and throw it to the open guy. Purdy operates a west coast offense (horizontal timing routes) so really the only way to screw up Purdy's reads is the zone blitz, and that's where Kyle's heavy run scheme helps out his QB's. They don't have to bear the weight of the offense on their shoulders. In bad weather, just call up CMC to get a couple of first downs!

Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:

Originally posted by Wubbie:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Originally posted by Wubbie:

Originally posted by gold49digger:
Most critics of Purdy shown how little they watch football. The biggest one I hear is that he's a checkdown merchant. Which is literally the opposite of his play style. He is a low key gunslinger. I guess when you judge a person on their appearance, you just assume they play like a Kirk Cousins. I hope they keep the same energy when he gets this team a ring. The more they hate, the more it fuels Brock.

Calling Purdy a checkdown merchant confirms to me that someone doesn't watch the games.
IIRC, he's highest in air yards per throw, or is up there?

I haven't seen an updated pass distribution chart, but it feels like Purdy makes his money in the intermediate,10-20 yards down the field area.

Kyle usually wants to make the life of LBs miserable. That's the area in front and behind the backers. Coincidence? I think not.

What playoff teams have the linebackers that can contend up with our scheme?
I feel like our own defense is one of the few. Training camp must've been fun to watch our scheme against Warner and Greenlaw.

I'm sure those matchups made both them and our offense better.

Before he got his shot against the Dolphins, I'm sure that it was just really great practice last year for Purdy to go against elite coverage linebackers every week.

Originally posted by Wubbie:
Skimmed through a Kurt Warner breakdown of why Jalen Hurts struggled against the 49ers.
He highlighted a number of plays where Jalen Hurts moved around, had a little bit of time (but was contained), and just didn't see where he had guys open.

I didn't watch it too deeply, but in watching it, I did find myself thinking "Brock Purdy would've made these reads and thrown it."

Just reaffirmed to me that Purdy actually knows how to play the position, and fans/media fall in love too much with QB's running around playing Hero Ball.

YES!!!!! That's why I said our game should have disqualified Hurts from MVP.

the thing these commentators are missing is that these QB miss the open guys with in the structure but scramble and make a play that then makes them seem like they've created something out of nothing.

They turn a mess up, deficiency, weakness into a an apparent triumph… smh

Originally posted by Wubbie:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Originally posted by Wubbie:

Originally posted by gold49digger:
Most critics of Purdy shown how little they watch football. The biggest one I hear is that he's a checkdown merchant. Which is literally the opposite of his play style. He is a low key gunslinger. I guess when you judge a person on their appearance, you just assume they play like a Kirk Cousins. I hope they keep the same energy when he gets this team a ring. The more they hate, the more it fuels Brock.

Calling Purdy a checkdown merchant confirms to me that someone doesn't watch the games.
IIRC, he's highest in air yards per throw, or is up there?

I haven't seen an updated pass distribution chart, but it feels like Purdy makes his money in the intermediate,10-20 yards down the field area.

Kyle usually wants to make the life of LBs miserable. That's the area in front and behind the backers. Coincidence? I think not.

What playoff teams have the linebackers that can contend up with our scheme?
I feel like our own defense is one of the few. Training camp must've been fun to watch our scheme against Warner and Greenlaw.

And when Fred Warner after practices, mentioned-- hey whatsup with that last pick of the draft dude. Why he so serious making those throws like he's in an actual game, me looking kinda bad. You know you got something in Brock Purdy lol

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by Giedi:
It would be really fun to see Dallas Smash the Eagles using a couple of copied 49er plays.

I have no doubt they will copy and likely beat them. 31-21 DAL, something like that. Might be even a higher margin. But yeah Ravens concern me..and DAL some. We did beat the s**t out of DAL, so there is that idk. Ravens is gunna be one of those games where it's like..😬. I am guessing Niners have already been preparing for the Ravens. We will see what happens.

Agree, for sure, even the Eagles concern me still. Point being, any good team in the NFL can beat the 49ers if they aren't on point.

When the 49ers DLine is negated by a mobile QB that can get away from the DLine, it exposes the 49ers back 7 coverage. That back 7 coverage, has historically under ShanaLynch's tenure, been a very big weakness - just by their draft strategy. Hopefully Wilks has done a good job in shoring that up with the improvement of Demo, Ambry, and the rest of the DB's.