QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Furlow:
I hear you. My opinion though is if Purdy waited a bit longer, the CB would have kept going up field with Deebo, and made that throw a lot tougher. And then Aiyuk would be much closer to the sideline, making that throw even harder. So Purdy made his decision at the right time. And I'm not saying it would have been a bad decision to throw to Deebo, I just don't think he would have been as open as JT was making it sound.

Right but even that potential 'issue' would be lessened with great arm strength. Brock simply has to throw with great anticipation to be a great QB. Had that corner followed Deebo, that's a busted coverage on Aiyuk and a laser eliminates or at least significantly reduces the sideline/space issue.

We can still dominate as we did without hitting every potential downfield opportunity.

Has there ever been a QB who threw with great anticipation AND had a cannon? Marino maybe, is the only possibility I can think of but I'd have to go back and watch some all-22 of his games. I guess what I'm saying is I'll take what Purdy is doing versus a QB with a rocket arm who has to wait to see a WR be open to pull the trigger. I'd imagine at this point the rest of the fan base feels the same way.

Originally posted by Furlow:
Has there ever been a QB who threw with great anticipation AND had a cannon? Marino maybe, is the only possibility I can think of but I'd have to go back and watch some all-22 of his games. I guess what I'm saying is I'll take what Purdy is doing versus a QB with a rocket arm who has to wait to see a WR be open to pull the trigger. I'd imagine at this point the rest of the fan base feels the same way.

A ton of them. All the great ones with great arms, lol. The separation for me, beyond the levels of greatness in terms of anticipation or arm strength, is decision making, vision, along with the ability to recognize coverages.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Furlow:
Has there ever been a QB who threw with great anticipation AND had a cannon? Marino maybe, is the only possibility I can think of but I'd have to go back and watch some all-22 of his games. I guess what I'm saying is I'll take what Purdy is doing versus a QB with a rocket arm who has to wait to see a WR be open to pull the trigger. I'd imagine at this point the rest of the fan base feels the same way.

A ton of them. All the great ones with great arms, lol. The separation for me, beyond the levels of greatness in terms of anticipation or arm strength, is decision making, vision, along with the ability to recognize coverages.

A "ton?" Lol man I don't know. Elway did not throw with anticipation, neither did Favre. Not with the type of frequency that we saw from Brady, Brees, Manning - who did not have cannon arms. Aaron Rodgers did/does, but I'm not sure I'd say he has a cannon arm.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Furlow:
Has there ever been a QB who threw with great anticipation AND had a cannon? Marino maybe, is the only possibility I can think of but I'd have to go back and watch some all-22 of his games. I guess what I'm saying is I'll take what Purdy is doing versus a QB with a rocket arm who has to wait to see a WR be open to pull the trigger. I'd imagine at this point the rest of the fan base feels the same way.

A ton of them. All the great ones with great arms, lol. The separation for me, beyond the levels of greatness in terms of anticipation or arm strength, is decision making, vision, along with the ability to recognize coverages.

A "ton?" Lol man I don't know. Elway did not throw with anticipation, neither did Favre. Not with the type of frequency that we saw from Brady, Brees, Manning - who did not have cannon arms. Aaron Rodgers did/does, but I'm not sure I'd say he has a cannon arm.

In SmokeyJoe's defense, a 'ton' is only like 10 NFL QB's.

Originally posted by Furlow:
A "ton?" Lol man I don't know. Elway did not throw with anticipation, neither did Favre. Not with the type of frequency that we saw from Brady, Brees, Manning - who did not have cannon arms. Aaron Rodgers did/does, but I'm not sure I'd say he has a cannon arm.

There's legitimate arguments to be had about frequency, but absolutely every QB you listed here threw with anticipation. Brees and Manning I'd argue had to rely on it more, similar to Brock. It was more critical to their greatness because they aren't as talented physically as some of their peers. Look at Manning's pick 6 game ender in the Super Bowl against the Saints that he was crushed for.

Rodgers had an absolute cannon, lol.

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by Heroism:
20 years from now when Brock Purdy has won 10 Superbowls, recognized as the greatest draft pick ever made and re-established the San Francisco 49ers as the greatest organization in football, ESPN will start Brock Purdy's version of the Man in the Arena with this clip:

The moment Brock Purdy got the call that the 49ers were taking him with the final pick of the 2022 NFL Draft 💪

(via @49ers) pic.twitter.com/njLogAkQHC

— FOX Sports: NFL (@NFLonFOX) December 5, 2023

That is cool, I hadn't heard the phone call before. He seems calm and already in go mode haha

Yeah I hadn't heard it either. He hid it from his family so they would be surprised when his name was called. Lol pretty neat he did that for his family

Originally posted by Mankster:
In SmokeyJoe's defense, a 'ton' is only like 10 NFL QB's.

10 NFL QB's ever? Lol.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Furlow:
A "ton?" Lol man I don't know. Elway did not throw with anticipation, neither did Favre. Not with the type of frequency that we saw from Brady, Brees, Manning - who did not have cannon arms. Aaron Rodgers did/does, but I'm not sure I'd say he has a cannon arm.

There's legitimate arguments to be had about frequency, but absolutely every QB you listed here threw with anticipation. Brees and Manning I'd argue had to rely on it more, similar to Brock. It was more critical to their greatness because they aren't as talented physically as some of their peers. Look at Manning's pick 6 game ender in the Super Bowl against the Saints that he was crushed for.

Rodgers had an absolute cannon, lol.

Yeah, I think the issue is saying "they didn't throw with anticipation" because that's going to be taken as "didn't throw with anticipation at all". Which they all did but Brady, Bree's, Rodgers, even Brock - all do it at a special level. It was/is a core piece of their game and it made them even more difficult to stop.

it's more of "how much was anticipation a part of their typical play?", IMO. I didn't watch favre in the 90s but later in his career, I didn't see him as a guy who threw with a ton of anticipation. At least not the same way Bree's or Rodgers did.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Mankster:
In SmokeyJoe's defense, a 'ton' is only like 10 NFL QB's.

10 NFL QB's ever? Lol.

whats the criteria, does college count..? because there are a lot QBs that have both..

Originally posted by tankle104:
Yeah, I think the issue is saying "they didn't throw with anticipation" because that's going to be taken as "didn't throw with anticipation at all". Which they all did but Brady, Bree's, Rodgers, even Brock - all do it at a special level. It was/is a core piece of their game and it made them even more difficult to stop.

it's more of "how much was anticipation a part of their typical play?", IMO. I didn't watch favre in the 90s but later in his career, I didn't see him as a guy who threw with a ton of anticipation. At least not the same way Bree's or Rodgers did.

You really missed out, lol. Guy was absolutely incredible.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Furlow:
Has there ever been a QB who threw with great anticipation AND had a cannon? Marino maybe, is the only possibility I can think of but I'd have to go back and watch some all-22 of his games. I guess what I'm saying is I'll take what Purdy is doing versus a QB with a rocket arm who has to wait to see a WR be open to pull the trigger. I'd imagine at this point the rest of the fan base feels the same way.

A ton of them. All the great ones with great arms, lol. The separation for me, beyond the levels of greatness in terms of anticipation or arm strength, is decision making, vision, along with the ability to recognize coverages.

A "ton?" Lol man I don't know. Elway did not throw with anticipation, neither did Favre. Not with the type of frequency that we saw from Brady, Brees, Manning - who did not have cannon arms. Aaron Rodgers did/does, but I'm not sure I'd say he has a cannon arm.

Yeah I agree with you. Very very few today and historically. Rodger's counts imo

Today's game I'd say Burrow throws fairly anticipatory. Tua? Stroud has shown some nice anticipation. But I'd argue none of them like Purdy at this point and some will argue they don't have cannons.

In the past the Steve young? Maybe not a cannon, but a shade below that? Warren moon? Honestly tough.

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Thinking further a traditional go route doesn't really count because those are supposed to be thrown leading the receiver etc. what impresses me with Purdy is all the crosses and other wrinkles he throws with anticipation.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Yeah I agree with you. Very very few today and historically. Rodger's counts imo

Today's game I'd say Burrow throws fairly anticipatory. Tua? Stroud has shown some nice anticipation. But I'd argue none of them like Purdy at this point and some will argue they don't have cannons.

In the past the Steve young? Maybe not a cannon, but a shade below that? Warren moon? Honestly tough.

Yall got to watch some other QB's lol.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Yeah, I think the issue is saying "they didn't throw with anticipation" because that's going to be taken as "didn't throw with anticipation at all". Which they all did but Brady, Bree's, Rodgers, even Brock - all do it at a special level. It was/is a core piece of their game and it made them even more difficult to stop.

it's more of "how much was anticipation a part of their typical play?", IMO. I didn't watch favre in the 90s but later in his career, I didn't see him as a guy who threw with a ton of anticipation. At least not the same way Bree's or Rodgers did.

You really missed out, lol. Guy was absolutely incredible.

I've went back and watched his film but never saw him live then. I followed the packers closely during the 2007 seven and he was amazing that year.