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Originally posted by tankle104:
I've went back and watched his film but never saw him live then. I followed the packers closely during the 2007 seven and he was amazing that year.

Favre, good player, couldn't wait for him to retire though lol. Seemed like it took forever lol. Never was a Packer fan lol.
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by Furlow:
I hear you. My opinion though is if Purdy waited a bit longer, the CB would have kept going up field with Deebo, and made that throw a lot tougher. And then Aiyuk would be much closer to the sideline, making that throw even harder. So Purdy made his decision at the right time. And I'm not saying it would have been a bad decision to throw to Deebo, I just don't think he would have been as open as JT was making it sound.

Right but even that potential 'issue' would be lessened with great arm strength. Brock simply has to throw with great anticipation to be a great QB. Had that corner followed Deebo, that's a busted coverage on Aiyuk and a laser eliminates or at least significantly reduces the sideline/space issue.

We can still dominate as we did without hitting every potential downfield opportunity.

Has there ever been a QB who threw with great anticipation AND had a cannon? Marino maybe, is the only possibility I can think of but I'd have to go back and watch some all-22 of his games. I guess what I'm saying is I'll take what Purdy is doing versus a QB with a rocket arm who has to wait to see a WR be open to pull the trigger. I'd imagine at this point the rest of the fan base feels the same way.

Agree with Furlow but i am flummoxed as to why or what is the purpose of a cannon. Definitions vary but a guy with a cannon can kneel on the 5 yd line and throw to the other end zone. I've seen only a couple. Jon Elway could do it. Hell, Kap could do it. May have seen Marino come close. And hard to believe, but Jim McMahon (old Bears Qb) could come close.

But the question is , "to what end?" A cannon is useless without the touch, the finesse, the acute judgement in depth perception, knowing speed of individiual WRs, and so on… so why all the talk about "cannon"? Joe never had a cannon, but he sure as hell knew how to lead guys whether in close or 35 yards down range. He did, however, have superb touch, judgement of depth , knew perfectly just how fast JT (John Taylor) or Jerry could go and those guys practiced, practiced, practiced.

It's no secret, but Brock is dialed in to #11, and Aiyuk seems to have a RoC (radius of catch) exceeding 8 feet or more. Hell you get in the right area code for Brandon and it's money. Same for Deebo…Kittle? Yup, yup…McCaff? Yup. And Jauan is coming on nicely also.

Cannon, "shammon"…I just don't see a place for it in NFL, yet you always hear, "Man that guy's got a cannon". So the heck what?

Nah, I'll take the last guy picked in his draft over anybody else you want to name. Hurts? You really think he's a better QB than Brock? Man i don't. There are some really good touch passers out there and Burrow, plus a couple AFC pals , and a couple in NFC are not too shabby. But you put Brock up against anyone, and I'll take him every time over one of them. Cool, calm , collected, knows how to jig and dance out of trouble, great , great reads and super fast processing, PLUS the really sweet touch and terrific sense of where Aiyuk, MCC, Deebo, George, even Jauan, will be in crossing , going vertical, or whatever.

He's really just gotten one year of NFL play under his belt and his QBing is impressive beyond anyone's expectations. Why? Well, maybe it is because he was a 4 yr starter in the BIG 10, against the best and toughest , and he was blessed with terrific hand eye coordination, and a sweet , beautiful touch.

Go back and look at how many qBs from BIG 10 or SEC started and played all 4 yrs…the list is not long, and our guy is on it. He had FOUR yrs of pretty good high quality football before he ever got here , plus he was blessed with great HC and QB coaches.

And no, he doesn't have a cannon…but how many times have we seen him throw 35-40 yarder on the money? Answer: a lot. And yes, he has good touch on short range and mid range also. But in sum, this kid is the best thing to happen to us in years…at least 23-24 yrs, anyway.
[ Edited by pasodoc9er on Dec 6, 2023 at 4:17 PM ]
Originally posted by tankle104:
Our boy won player of the week 😎

I was sure Deebo would get it ...
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Agree with Furlow but i am flummoxed as to why or what is the purpose of a cannon. Definitions vary but a guy with a cannon can kneel on the 5 yd line and throw to the other end zone. I've seen only a couple. Jon Elway could do it. Hell, Kap could do it. May have seen Marino come close. And hard to believe, but Jim McMahon (old Bears Qb) could come close.

But the question is , "to what end?" A cannon is useless without the touch, the finesse, the acute judgement in depth perception, knowing speed of individiual WRs, and so on… so why all the talk about "cannon"? Joe never had a cannon, but he sure as hell knew how to lead guys whether in close or 35 yards down range. He did, however, have superb touch, judgement of depth , knew perfectly just how fast JT (John Taylor) or Jerry could go and those guys practiced, practiced, practiced.

It's no secret, but Brock is dialed in to #11, and Aiyuk seems to have a RoC (radius of catch) exceeding 8 feet or more. Hell you get in the right area code for Brandon and it's money. Same for Deebo…Kittle? Yup, yup…McCaff? Yup. And Jauan is coming on nicely also.

Cannon, "shammon"…I just don't see a place for it in NFL, yet you always hear, "Man that guy's got a cannon". So the heck what?

Nah, I'll take the last guy picked in his draft over anybody else you want to name. Hurts? You really think he's a better QB than Brock? Man i don't. There are some really good touch passers out there and Burrow, plus a couple AFC pals , and a couple in NFC are not too shabby. But you put Brock up against anyone, and I'll take him every time over one of them. Cool, calm , collected, knows how to jig and dance out of trouble, great , great reads and super fast processing, PLUS the really sweet touch and terrific sense of where Aiyuk, MCC, Deebo, George, even Jauan, will be in crossing , going vertical, or whatever.

He's really just gotten one year of NFL play under his belt and his QBing is impressive beyond anyone's expectations. Why? Well, maybe it is because he was a 4 yr starter in the BIG 10, against the best and toughest , and he was blessed with terrific hand eye coordination, and a sweet , beautiful touch.

And no, he doesn't have a cannon…but how many times have we seen him throw 35-40 yarder on the money? Answer: a lot. And yes, he has good touch on short range and mid range also. But in sum, this kid is the best thing to happen to us in years…at least 23-24 yrs, anyway.

I just want to reiterate I don't think a strong arm is necessary to be a great QB. I spent all offseason here beating this point to death.

That said, anticipatory throwing is required for Brock to be great. He can't be great without being great at this skill. Thankfully he is. Additionally, anticipatory throwing is one skill among many that QB's need in their bag, on some level, to be successful. Being calm, cool, and collected, as you mentioned, is another skill that not every qb has. Quick processing, vision, toughness, and on and on. Brock might be a 10/10 on all these things and a 5/10 on arm strength. Another great QB might be 10/10 on arm strength and 8 or 9/10 in other departments.

There is more than one way to skin a cat. But just because Brock relies on, and is great at, anticipatory throwing doesn't mean guys who don't need it at that level can't and don't do it, lol.
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Our boy won player of the week 😎

I was sure Deebo would get it ...

ya weird
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Our boy won player of the week 😎

I was sure Deebo would get it ...

He did.

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/175290-49ers-deebo-samuel-offensive-player/
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Our boy won player of the week 😎

I was sure Deebo would get it ...

He did.

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/175290-49ers-deebo-samuel-offensive-player/

lol I thought Brock won since it was posted in Brock thread
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
lol I thought Brock won since it was posted in Brock thread

Brock won the Fed Ex Air player of the week. It's just a different award.
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
lol I thought Brock won since it was posted in Brock thread

Brock won the Fed Ex Air player of the week. It's just a different award.

Oh...thanks.
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by tankle104:

meh, hes ok

a Probowl Alternate.. maybe
Originally posted by 49ersRing:

This is saying Brock is amazing when our offensive plays are covered perfectly, right?
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Our boy won player of the week 😎

I was sure Deebo would get it ...

He won NFC offensive player of the week and then Brock won fed ex player of the week.
[ Edited by tankle104 on Dec 6, 2023 at 4:42 PM ]
Originally posted by tankle104:
This is saying Brock is amazing when our offensive plays are covered perfectly, right?

He's top 10 when the play is perfectly covered.

We face this situation less than any other team.
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:

This is saying Brock is amazing when our offensive plays are covered perfectly, right?

It's saying that we have the lowest % of offensive plays in the league that are considered "perfectly covered" at around 25%, but when they are Brock is still in the top 10 in EPA/play.
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Our boy won player of the week 😎

I was sure Deebo would get it ...

Deebo won offensive player of the week. Brock won fedex air player of the week.
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