Those games in christmas week are gonna decide the MVP award.
Dec 24: Prescott v Tagovailoa
Dec 25: Jackson v Purdy
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Dec 6, 2023 at 8:05 PM
- Monsterniner
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Dec 6, 2023 at 8:06 PM
- 49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by Monsterniner:Those games won't decide anything. The Voters do
Those games in christmas week are gonna decide the MVP award.
Dec 24: Prescott v Tagovailoa
Dec 25: Jackson v Purdy
[ Edited by 49AllTheTime on Dec 6, 2023 at 8:06 PM ]
Dec 6, 2023 at 8:10 PM
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Monsterniner:Those games won't decide anything. The Voters do
Those games in christmas week are gonna decide the MVP award.
Dec 24: Prescott v Tagovailoa
Dec 25: Jackson v Purdy
The Voters of the AP will decide after those games.
Dec 6, 2023 at 8:18 PM
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Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Does he get a bonus for making the Probowl in his 7th round contract lol
Wonder how much pocket change that would be...
He gets a bonus for making the pro bowl - I think all players do get some sort of bonus for it but it's not the type that's built into someone's contract structure.
i think it's similar to how players get extra money for making playoff games.
Dec 6, 2023 at 8:30 PM
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Originally posted by tankle104:depends if BP has incentives in his contract for seasonal and postseason accomplishments
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Does he get a bonus for making the Probowl in his 7th round contract lol
Wonder how much pocket change that would be...
He gets a bonus for making the pro bowl - I think all players do get some sort of bonus for it but it's not the type that's built into someone's contract structure.
i think it's similar to how players get extra money for making playoff games.
Dec 6, 2023 at 8:31 PM
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
It still seems surreal that we drafted traded 3 first rounders, drafted Lance, lucked into Purdy and the best NFL contract of all time, and are SB favorites with an MVP favorite. And other guy who's close too.
The NFL is absurd and I love it!
LIke some bizarre curse that turns out actually positive in the end.
"Use three first round picks and a franchise QB will be yours!"
"Alright, Trey Lance, let's f**king go, we are so back!!!"
Brock's story alone is one of the greatest In nfl history so far. It's just remarkable and so improbable. Literally hard to even wrap your head around happening because statistically you're probably better off trying to get struck by lightening twice.
then when you add in the fact we just traded the farm for a young qb in the first round - it's like the wildest and most ridiculous sequence of events. Lol and it isn't nearly done being written.
i don't really give Kyle/John much credit for finding/scouting - that goes to Griese and I think slowik. But I give them a ton of credit for riding with him when they saw what he was - regardless of the scrutiny that they knew would come with it initially.
Dec 6, 2023 at 8:37 PM
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Originally posted by billbird2111:
Originally posted by Youngone:
Originally posted by billbird2111:
Who cares what people think about Brock Purdy right now? Seriously, the only thing people should care about is the game this Sunday. Because the opponent that is coming to town has a head coach that knows how to stick it to the 49ers.
Brock Purdy had a great game against the Eagles. OK. That was last week. This is a new week. Time to move on. Forget about MVP. Start thinking about Seattle.
Bro we aren't game planning for Seattle, it's thread for discussion, we aren't actually on the team. Brock isn't worried about MVP, he's thinking about Seattle. Silly comment.
You don't think players on that 49er team skim through the heritage 49er fan forum known as the Webzone? Really? We know that reporters do. That's a given. But if you don't think players on that team aren't doing the same thing, I've got news for you. These guys are human. They do not live in a bubble. They surf the web just like you and I do. Of course they're here. Not all of them, probably. But I imagine a few do check in here and there.
So, no, I respectfully disagree with you. Not a silly comment. Forget about the MVP crap. Focus on Seattle. Do your part, Youngone.
If players are anywhere, they're on twitter.
Dec 6, 2023 at 8:38 PM
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by tankle104:depends if BP has incentives in his contract for seasonal and postseason accomplishments
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Does he get a bonus for making the Probowl in his 7th round contract lol
Wonder how much pocket change that would be...
He gets a bonus for making the pro bowl - I think all players do get some sort of bonus for it but it's not the type that's built into someone's contract structure.
i think it's similar to how players get extra money for making playoff games.
He was the last pick in the draft, there were no incentives or pay escalators in his contract.
Dec 6, 2023 at 8:50 PM
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Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by Furlow:
I hear you. My opinion though is if Purdy waited a bit longer, the CB would have kept going up field with Deebo, and made that throw a lot tougher. And then Aiyuk would be much closer to the sideline, making that throw even harder. So Purdy made his decision at the right time. And I'm not saying it would have been a bad decision to throw to Deebo, I just don't think he would have been as open as JT was making it sound.
Right but even that potential 'issue' would be lessened with great arm strength. Brock simply has to throw with great anticipation to be a great QB. Had that corner followed Deebo, that's a busted coverage on Aiyuk and a laser eliminates or at least significantly reduces the sideline/space issue.
We can still dominate as we did without hitting every potential downfield opportunity.
Has there ever been a QB who threw with great anticipation AND had a cannon? Marino maybe, is the only possibility I can think of but I'd have to go back and watch some all-22 of his games. I guess what I'm saying is I'll take what Purdy is doing versus a QB with a rocket arm who has to wait to see a WR be open to pull the trigger. I'd imagine at this point the rest of the fan base feels the same way.
Agree with Furlow but i am flummoxed as to why or what is the purpose of a cannon. Definitions vary but a guy with a cannon can kneel on the 5 yd line and throw to the other end zone. I've seen only a couple. Jon Elway could do it. Hell, Kap could do it. May have seen Marino come close. And hard to believe, but Jim McMahon (old Bears Qb) could come close.
But the question is , "to what end?" A cannon is useless without the touch, the finesse, the acute judgement in depth perception, knowing speed of individiual WRs, and so on… so why all the talk about "cannon"? Joe never had a cannon, but he sure as hell knew how to lead guys whether in close or 35 yards down range. He did, however, have superb touch, judgement of depth , knew perfectly just how fast JT (John Taylor) or Jerry could go and those guys practiced, practiced, practiced.
It's no secret, but Brock is dialed in to #11, and Aiyuk seems to have a RoC (radius of catch) exceeding 8 feet or more. Hell you get in the right area code for Brandon and it's money. Same for Deebo…Kittle? Yup, yup…McCaff? Yup. And Jauan is coming on nicely also.
Cannon, "shammon"…I just don't see a place for it in NFL, yet you always hear, "Man that guy's got a cannon". So the heck what?
Nah, I'll take the last guy picked in his draft over anybody else you want to name. Hurts? You really think he's a better QB than Brock? Man i don't. There are some really good touch passers out there and Burrow, plus a couple AFC pals , and a couple in NFC are not too shabby. But you put Brock up against anyone, and I'll take him every time over one of them. Cool, calm , collected, knows how to jig and dance out of trouble, great , great reads and super fast processing, PLUS the really sweet touch and terrific sense of where Aiyuk, MCC, Deebo, George, even Jauan, will be in crossing , going vertical, or whatever.
He's really just gotten one year of NFL play under his belt and his QBing is impressive beyond anyone's expectations. Why? Well, maybe it is because he was a 4 yr starter in the BIG 10, against the best and toughest , and he was blessed with terrific hand eye coordination, and a sweet , beautiful touch.
Go back and look at how many qBs from BIG 10 or SEC started and played all 4 yrs…the list is not long, and our guy is on it. He had FOUR yrs of pretty good high quality football before he ever got here , plus he was blessed with great HC and QB coaches.
And no, he doesn't have a cannon…but how many times have we seen him throw 35-40 yarder on the money? Answer: a lot. And yes, he has good touch on short range and mid range also. But in sum, this kid is the best thing to happen to us in years…at least 23-24 yrs, anyway.
Allow my spectacular brilliance to aid you.
The purpose of a cannon, at least the main purpose, is that when you're wrong, you can still be right. When you're late to make the read, you can still get the ball there on time.
But if you're processing and accuracy are right, you don't need a cannon.
Dec 6, 2023 at 9:00 PM
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Originally posted by tankle104:
Brock's story alone is one of the greatest In nfl history so far. It's just remarkable and so improbable. Literally hard to even wrap your head around happening because statistically you're probably better off trying to get struck by lightening twice.
then when you add in the fact we just traded the farm for a young qb in the first round - it's like the wildest and most ridiculous sequence of events. Lol and it isn't nearly done being written.
i don't really give Kyle/John much credit for finding/scouting - that goes to Griese and I think slowik. But I give them a ton of credit for riding with him when they saw what he was - regardless of the scrutiny that they knew would come with it initially.
Kurt Warner's story is hard to top
Dec 6, 2023 at 9:36 PM
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Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:
Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Nick Wright is basically Grant Cohn at this point.
Brock Purdy went 19-for-27 with 314 yards, 4 TD in the 49ers 42-19 win over the Eagles, and @getnickwright still doesn't think he's the MVP.
— First Things First (@FTFonFS1) December 4, 2023
"Was Purdy the best player on his team yesterday? ... I'm not knocking him. But we skipped all of the steps. He's not the driving force." pic.twitter.com/xtSCgzWp0n
Not even Grant Cohen is this bad.
It feels like Nick has a personnel grudge against Purdy even being discussed as a possible MVP. I don't get why he can't even accept him as someone who has a legitimate shot at getting it.
Because then he wouldn't have niner fans clicking his b******t giving his hot take b******t bumps in engagement. He doesn't really believe what he says, he is just boosting his engagement for bigger profits. The best way to change that is to not give him the attention that he craves.
Dec 6, 2023 at 9:45 PM
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Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:
Originally posted by tankle104:Homegirl is such a little snack.
respect that they didn't make excuses - just gave credit where credits was due. That's good journalism. Or whatever the hell it's called thay they do. Commentary? Lol
LOL I was thinking the same thing. I think she's fine as all hell.
That's Shadys side chick and it's embarrassingly obvious.
She's an annoying ignoramus most of the time. Like whenever her mouth is open.
Dec 6, 2023 at 9:55 PM
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Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by tankle104:depends if BP has incentives in his contract for seasonal and postseason accomplishments
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Does he get a bonus for making the Probowl in his 7th round contract lol
Wonder how much pocket change that would be...
He gets a bonus for making the pro bowl - I think all players do get some sort of bonus for it but it's not the type that's built into someone's contract structure.
i think it's similar to how players get extra money for making playoff games.
He was the last pick in the draft, there were no incentives or pay escalators in his contract.
No what I'm saying is that all players get bonuses for things like making the playoffs, pro bowl etc. regardless of what it states incentive wise in your contracts.
"The NFL's collective bargaining agreement (CBA) shows players on the teams in any AFC-NFC Pro Bowl game will receive $88,000 if they win (more than if they participated in last year's Super Bowl) or $44,000 if they lose"
Think of it like a bonus for being the best employee at work and your team wins a contest - you earn something. You just rarely hear about it because the guys making the pro bowl typically make millions and $88k isn't much. It is to someone like Brock though.
Dec 6, 2023 at 9:59 PM
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Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Brock's story alone is one of the greatest In nfl history so far. It's just remarkable and so improbable. Literally hard to even wrap your head around happening because statistically you're probably better off trying to get struck by lightening twice.
then when you add in the fact we just traded the farm for a young qb in the first round - it's like the wildest and most ridiculous sequence of events. Lol and it isn't nearly done being written.
i don't really give Kyle/John much credit for finding/scouting - that goes to Griese and I think slowik. But I give them a ton of credit for riding with him when they saw what he was - regardless of the scrutiny that they knew would come with it initially.
Kurt Warner's story is hard to top
I think Brady's is the craziest one so, follow by Kurt. But if Brock can play well for more than 5 seasons and win at least a super bowl and MVP - he will top Warner.
what makes Brady's story is crazy is that he ultimately became the GOAT and accomplished more than just about anyone ever. I'm hoping Brock can become an all time great 49er qb.
i was always surprised he made the HOF cause he only had like 5-6 good seasons in the nfl. Lol obviously he had really high highs and really low lows.
i think the fact that no one ever drafted where Brock was, had even thrown an nfl pass, it's similar to Kurt's. If Brock can become a franchise guy (play for us 8-10+ years at a high level) then he will surprass Warner.
Dec 6, 2023 at 10:07 PM
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Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Brock's story alone is one of the greatest In nfl history so far. It's just remarkable and so improbable. Literally hard to even wrap your head around happening because statistically you're probably better off trying to get struck by lightening twice.
then when you add in the fact we just traded the farm for a young qb in the first round - it's like the wildest and most ridiculous sequence of events. Lol and it isn't nearly done being written.
i don't really give Kyle/John much credit for finding/scouting - that goes to Griese and I think slowik. But I give them a ton of credit for riding with him when they saw what he was - regardless of the scrutiny that they knew would come with it initially.
Kurt Warner's story is hard to top
I would argue if Brock win the regular season MVP and got a ring this season, his story is up there with Kurt's.
A 7th round pick shouldn't be as intriguing as being undrafted, but it is. Last pick of the draft, Mr Irrelevant, somehow make the story more intriguing IMO.
And then in a story, you want to have downs, ups, downs, and ups, or the so call dramatic sequence of events. Last pick of the draft, work hard, play in a competitive team, all of a sudden has to play, have instant success, one game away from the Superbowl, then the injury. Back to the low point. And then work hard for the recovery, and MVP, and win championship.