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QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Does he get a bonus for making the Probowl in his 7th round contract lol

Wonder how much pocket change that would be...

He gets a bonus for making the pro bowl - I think all players do get some sort of bonus for it but it's not the type that's built into someone's contract structure.

i think it's similar to how players get extra money for making playoff games.
depends if BP has incentives in his contract for seasonal and postseason accomplishments

He was the last pick in the draft, there were no incentives or pay escalators in his contract.

No what I'm saying is that all players get bonuses for things like making the playoffs, pro bowl etc. regardless of what it states incentive wise in your contracts.

"The NFL's collective bargaining agreement (CBA) shows players on the teams in any AFC-NFC Pro Bowl game will receive $88,000 if they win (more than if they participated in last year's Super Bowl) or $44,000 if they lose"

Think of it like a bonus for being the best employee at work and your team wins a contest - you earn something. You just rarely hear about it because the guys making the pro bowl typically make millions and $88k isn't much. It is to someone like Brock though.
i knew what you were talking about, but he could have had incentives on top of those other bonuses in his contract like other players do. But since he's a late round pick, there probably isn't any. We will find out soon.
[ Edited by 49AllTheTime on Dec 6, 2023 at 10:09 PM ]
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I just hate Steven Ruiz, Nick WRONG (sometimes mistakenly called Wright), Mangini and others. Because of them stupid dolts think Brock is no good. Former QB's and even current ones mostly like him a lot. Including Aaron Rodgers. Rex Ryan really loves him. It does bother me the disrespect he gets. Because he really is having an MVP season if you look at it statistically and just watching the games eye test too. I really wish we didn't miss that FG. Because then even the "can he come from behind without all the pieces" question would be answered. He moved it down the field and we missed the FG.

Mostly they use his draft status against him and that he's not a big guy. But it's the processing, great decisions, timing and anticipation and throwing accuracy that they miss.

Why let what talking heads think about our qb bother you? It's wasted energy. If you know, you know. If you don't, you will find out soon enough.
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I just hate Steven Ruiz, Nick WRONG (sometimes mistakenly called Wright), Mangini and others. Because of them stupid dolts think Brock is no good. Former QB's and even current ones mostly like him a lot. Including Aaron Rodgers. Rex Ryan really loves him. It does bother me the disrespect he gets. Because he really is having an MVP season if you look at it statistically and just watching the games eye test too. I really wish we didn't miss that FG. Because then even the "can he come from behind without all the pieces" question would be answered. He moved it down the field and we missed the FG.

Mostly they use his draft status against him and that he's not a big guy. But it's the processing, great decisions, timing and anticipation and throwing accuracy that they miss.

Why let what talking heads think about our qb bother you? It's wasted energy. If you know, you know. If you don't, you will find out soon enough.

Did the niners piss off Michael Robinson. He's always talking trash about the niners and now Purdy, he's a total seacock. We drafted the dude what's his deal.
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I just hate Steven Ruiz, Nick WRONG (sometimes mistakenly called Wright), Mangini and others. Because of them stupid dolts think Brock is no good. Former QB's and even current ones mostly like him a lot. Including Aaron Rodgers. Rex Ryan really loves him. It does bother me the disrespect he gets. Because he really is having an MVP season if you look at it statistically and just watching the games eye test too. I really wish we didn't miss that FG. Because then even the "can he come from behind without all the pieces" question would be answered. He moved it down the field and we missed the FG.

Mostly they use his draft status against him and that he's not a big guy. But it's the processing, great decisions, timing and anticipation and throwing accuracy that they miss.

Why let what talking heads think about our qb bother you? It's wasted energy. If you know, you know. If you don't, you will find out soon enough.

Did the niners piss off Michael Robinson. He's always talking trash about the niners and now Purdy, he's a total seacock. We drafted the dude what's his deal.

Just think of it like a trade of Robinson for Sherman. I'll take Sherman's praise over Robinson's.
[ Edited by captveg on Dec 6, 2023 at 10:50 PM ]
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Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by Furlow:
I hear you. My opinion though is if Purdy waited a bit longer, the CB would have kept going up field with Deebo, and made that throw a lot tougher. And then Aiyuk would be much closer to the sideline, making that throw even harder. So Purdy made his decision at the right time. And I'm not saying it would have been a bad decision to throw to Deebo, I just don't think he would have been as open as JT was making it sound.

Right but even that potential 'issue' would be lessened with great arm strength. Brock simply has to throw with great anticipation to be a great QB. Had that corner followed Deebo, that's a busted coverage on Aiyuk and a laser eliminates or at least significantly reduces the sideline/space issue.

We can still dominate as we did without hitting every potential downfield opportunity.

Has there ever been a QB who threw with great anticipation AND had a cannon? Marino maybe, is the only possibility I can think of but I'd have to go back and watch some all-22 of his games. I guess what I'm saying is I'll take what Purdy is doing versus a QB with a rocket arm who has to wait to see a WR be open to pull the trigger. I'd imagine at this point the rest of the fan base feels the same way.

Agree with Furlow but i am flummoxed as to why or what is the purpose of a cannon. Definitions vary but a guy with a cannon can kneel on the 5 yd line and throw to the other end zone. I've seen only a couple. Jon Elway could do it. Hell, Kap could do it. May have seen Marino come close. And hard to believe, but Jim McMahon (old Bears Qb) could come close.

But the question is , "to what end?" A cannon is useless without the touch, the finesse, the acute judgement in depth perception, knowing speed of individiual WRs, and so on… so why all the talk about "cannon"? Joe never had a cannon, but he sure as hell knew how to lead guys whether in close or 35 yards down range. He did, however, have superb touch, judgement of depth , knew perfectly just how fast JT (John Taylor) or Jerry could go and those guys practiced, practiced, practiced.

It's no secret, but Brock is dialed in to #11, and Aiyuk seems to have a RoC (radius of catch) exceeding 8 feet or more. Hell you get in the right area code for Brandon and it's money. Same for Deebo…Kittle? Yup, yup…McCaff? Yup. And Jauan is coming on nicely also.

Cannon, "shammon"…I just don't see a place for it in NFL, yet you always hear, "Man that guy's got a cannon". So the heck what?

Nah, I'll take the last guy picked in his draft over anybody else you want to name. Hurts? You really think he's a better QB than Brock? Man i don't. There are some really good touch passers out there and Burrow, plus a couple AFC pals , and a couple in NFC are not too shabby. But you put Brock up against anyone, and I'll take him every time over one of them. Cool, calm , collected, knows how to jig and dance out of trouble, great , great reads and super fast processing, PLUS the really sweet touch and terrific sense of where Aiyuk, MCC, Deebo, George, even Jauan, will be in crossing , going vertical, or whatever.

He's really just gotten one year of NFL play under his belt and his QBing is impressive beyond anyone's expectations. Why? Well, maybe it is because he was a 4 yr starter in the BIG 10, against the best and toughest , and he was blessed with terrific hand eye coordination, and a sweet , beautiful touch.

Go back and look at how many qBs from BIG 10 or SEC started and played all 4 yrs…the list is not long, and our guy is on it. He had FOUR yrs of pretty good high quality football before he ever got here , plus he was blessed with great HC and QB coaches.

And no, he doesn't have a cannon…but how many times have we seen him throw 35-40 yarder on the money? Answer: a lot. And yes, he has good touch on short range and mid range also. But in sum, this kid is the best thing to happen to us in years…at least 23-24 yrs, anyway.
Agree💯%
Personally, I think Purdy's arm is plenty strong. Any Brock Purdy 2023 highlight shows up how great his arm is.
Some of you way to sensitive man, who gives a flying f what others think about him. They can continue to talk and Brock will continue to walk the walk.
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Brock's story alone is one of the greatest In nfl history so far. It's just remarkable and so improbable. Literally hard to even wrap your head around happening because statistically you're probably better off trying to get struck by lightening twice.

then when you add in the fact we just traded the farm for a young qb in the first round - it's like the wildest and most ridiculous sequence of events. Lol and it isn't nearly done being written.

i don't really give Kyle/John much credit for finding/scouting - that goes to Griese and I think slowik. But I give them a ton of credit for riding with him when they saw what he was - regardless of the scrutiny that they knew would come with it initially.

Kurt Warner's story is hard to top

I think Brady's is the craziest one so, follow by Kurt. But if Brock can play well for more than 5 seasons and win at least a super bowl and MVP - he will top Warner.

what makes Brady's story is crazy is that he ultimately became the GOAT and accomplished more than just about anyone ever. I'm hoping Brock can become an all time great 49er qb.

i was always surprised he made the HOF cause he only had like 5-6 good seasons in the nfl. Lol obviously he had really high highs and really low lows.

i think the fact that no one ever drafted where Brock was, had even thrown an nfl pass, it's similar to Kurt's. If Brock can become a franchise guy (play for us 8-10+ years at a high level) then he will surprass Warner.

I was just referring to a one time miracle season, and that makes Warner's story untouchable. Purdy mighta topped it last season but it wasn't meant to be.
Originally posted by libertyforever:
I would argue if Brock win the regular season MVP and got a ring this season, his story is up there with Kurt's.

A 7th round pick shouldn't be as intriguing as being undrafted, but it is. Last pick of the draft, Mr Irrelevant, somehow make the story more intriguing IMO.

And then in a story, you want to have downs, ups, downs, and ups, or the so call dramatic sequence of events. Last pick of the draft, work hard, play in a competitive team, all of a sudden has to play, have instant success, one game away from the Superbowl, then the injury. Back to the low point. And then work hard for the recovery, and MVP, and win championship.

What I find funny is I don't recall anyone dissing Warner because of throwing to Bruce, holt, and Faulk

But throwing to kittle, cmc, deebo, and aiyuk is a negative apparently
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Some of you way to sensitive man, who gives a flying f what others think about him. They can continue to talk and Brock will continue to walk the walk.

Seriously. Ragebaiting is a great form of content engagement. The more people obsess over Ruiz and those like him, the better for him professionally and financially. Negative attention is still attention. The more 49ers fans whine about him, the more they elevate his profile.
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Originally posted by 49ers808:
Some of you way to sensitive man, who gives a flying f what others think about him. They can continue to talk and Brock will continue to walk the walk.

It's so amazing that Brock is putting up Steve Young numbers at the age of 23. Steve Young was putting up MVP numbers, but his age was 33.
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Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by libertyforever:
I would argue if Brock win the regular season MVP and got a ring this season, his story is up there with Kurt's.

A 7th round pick shouldn't be as intriguing as being undrafted, but it is. Last pick of the draft, Mr Irrelevant, somehow make the story more intriguing IMO.

And then in a story, you want to have downs, ups, downs, and ups, or the so call dramatic sequence of events. Last pick of the draft, work hard, play in a competitive team, all of a sudden has to play, have instant success, one game away from the Superbowl, then the injury. Back to the low point. And then work hard for the recovery, and MVP, and win championship.

What I find funny is I don't recall anyone dissing Warner because of throwing to Bruce, holt, and Faulk

But throwing to kittle, cmc, deebo, and aiyuk is a negative apparently

Kurt Warner had to go through 4 years of arena ball because of Mooch's (and the Packers) decision to cut Kurt. Nice thing about Purdy is that once Kyle saw his skill set, boom, he was the starter. (injuries did help) But still, Kyle and his coaching and scouting staff really did a great job in spotting and keeping Purdy, instead of letting him go.

Kurt retired at the age of 38. So if you take Purdy's career and extrapolate that - its a 15 year career for Purdy if he retires at the same age as Kurt. But nowadays, QB's are playing till 40+
We have the Seahawks this weekend. Brock keeps winning the praise will keep coming from Niner fans his teammates and his upcoming payday

Kobe Bryant never cared about his naysayers. He just used it as fuel to propel himself to levels in order to shut them up

Real players do what they want to. Busters d what they can
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Why let what talking heads think about our qb bother you? It's wasted energy. If you know, you know. If you don't, you will find out soon enough.

Agreed.

I'm not a fan of Kyrie Irving but back when the whole flat earth thing was going on, I liked one of his responses that was 'why do you even care what I think or believe in.' Which is a good point. If someone wants to go through life being a dumbass believe in Leprechauns or think Brock Purdy isn't a good QB, who cares? They can be dumb and let them go through life being dumb.
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
I don't think Hurts is very far ahead of Purdy when it comes to running, Purdy just doesn't look to run as much as Hurts, nor do the Niners design as many running plays for Purdy.
Purdy ran a lot of options plays and designed runs in college. He's more mobile than Trey Lance.

That anticipation, accuracy, and the innate sense of where his guys going to be Brock makes it look easy, but we have seen other qb missed this throw.
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