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Dec 7, 2023 at 4:11 PM
Originally posted by thl408:
What is this? I just know the more top right a player is, the better.

He's really efficient when the team is ahead (best in the league) and behind (2nd best in the league).
Dec 7, 2023 at 4:13 PM
Originally posted by thl408:
What is this? I just know the more top right a player is, the better.

tweet this to analytics girl mina kimes
Dec 7, 2023 at 4:21 PM
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Meanwhile Ruiz has a tweet saying "Don't let them gaslight you" because one particular throw Purdy didn't show otherwordly anticipation. Look, people have their opinions on what makes a great QB. You can disagree. You can say Purdy isn't top ten, whatever. Hell, rank him 20th. But if you claim he is not an excellent anticipatory thrower, when that is literally NINETY FCKNIG PERCENT OF HIS GAME, you have disgraced yourself beyond all recall.

I'd pay to see Greg Cosell debate Ruiz about Purdy. It would be a humiliating bloodbath.
Dec 7, 2023 at 4:23 PM
Originally posted by thl408:
What is this? I just know the more top right a player is, the better.

Weird. That chart says Purdy is 2nd best when trailing or tied, but his rating and QBR say he's near last. I don't think that represents him as a whole because he's trailing or tied so rarely. So I need to know how each of these metrics are reached to fully understand what they're saying if they are that far apart.
Dec 7, 2023 at 4:25 PM
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by thl408:
What is this? I just know the more top right a player is, the better.

Weird. That chart says Purdy is 2nd best when trailing or tied, but his rating and QBR say he's near last. I don't think that represents him as a whole because he's trailing or tied so rarely. So I need to know how each of these metrics are reached to fully understand what they're saying if they are that far apart.

Yeah not sure where they're getting this chart from?
Dec 7, 2023 at 4:32 PM
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Weird. That chart says Purdy is 2nd best when trailing or tied, but his rating and QBR say he's near last. I don't think that represents him as a whole because he's trailing or tied so rarely. So I need to know how each of these metrics are reached to fully understand what they're saying if they are that far apart.

I can't speak to the validity of the data they are using but QBR and passer rating are different stats than EPA.
Dec 7, 2023 at 5:00 PM
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Mina Kimes is such a hater. She knows nothing about football too. It's disgusting.


I've been saying this. But some posters get offended whenever Mina is called out lol

Can't believe she questioned Brock's processing ability. Saying he can't process and solve defenses like Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen can.

I would think that is the one elite trait everyone can agree he does have.

According to Mina, Brock doesn't have elite physical traits (everyone would agree), isn't good at processing and solving defenses? another way of saying, he ain't doing s**t. It's everyone else.

Dec 7, 2023 at 5:02 PM
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
I don't think Hurts is very far ahead of Purdy when it comes to running, Purdy just doesn't look to run as much as Hurts, nor do the Niners design as many running plays for Purdy.
Purdy ran a lot of options plays and designed runs in college. He's more mobile than Trey Lance.

Runs like Lamar Jackson, throws like Drew Brees.
...Kyle Shanahan.

So, man, you want to find Drew Brees who can move like Lamar Jackson.
https://www.ninersnation.com/2021/4/27/22404978/you-want-to-find-drew-brees-who-can-move-like-lamar-jackson

Brocky ran for 1,000 yds his senior year in HS

Didn't everyone? Brock is not a runner. He's aware of the rush and is able to pick up a few yards here and there but he's not like Jackson, Fields or Allen. He's not a threat to take off and go 40 yards for a TD. That's fine. I don't want him running a lot.

As others have said, Brock's mobility is sort of like Trey's mobility. Brock's scored some rushing TD's and gotten first downs with his legs. So there's that dimension to his game. Guy's like Jimmy, Flacco, and Tom Brady didn't have to mobility that Brock has.

Trey ran around like a fullback because everyone he played in high school and college were scrubs. Brock was more of a scrambler to either buy time or move the chains (a more transferable skill set for the pros) - but he wasn't bigger and faster than the competition, just trucking guys. Brock played at a high school that plays a lot of top competition schools (better than his school), he wasn't playing scrub Kids out in the middle of nowhere minnesota. Lol then he went to a power five conference and def was playing against top athletes.

trey was kind of the opposite mobility wise to Brock. Trey had good top end speed but average short area quickness (relative to the top mobile QBs in the nfl). Where as Brock has elite short area quickness and bad top end speed. Lol

^^^all of this
Dec 7, 2023 at 5:08 PM
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by thl408:
What is this? I just know the more top right a player is, the better.

Weird. That chart says Purdy is 2nd best when trailing or tied, but his rating and QBR say he's near last. I don't think that represents him as a whole because he's trailing or tied so rarely. So I need to know how each of these metrics are reached to fully understand what they're saying if they are that far apart.

His passer rating and QBR are lower when trailing because of the multiple turnovers late in those games. But outside of those turnovers he has still been highly efficient (high completion %, YPA, 1st down rate, etc.).
[ Edited by YACBros85 on Dec 7, 2023 at 5:09 PM ]
Dec 7, 2023 at 5:20 PM


Lombardi also sees a lot similarities between Joe and Brock - Rhythm, accuracy, athleticism, timing.
Dec 7, 2023 at 5:29 PM
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Purdy is listed at 6'0"" and 212 lbs. is that accurate? I thought he was 6'1", but just saw that Bryce Young is listed at 5'10" and 204 lbs. I would NEVER EVER EVER want a QB under 6', but if that dude weighs over 200 lbs, I'm having a romantic dinner with the pope tonight.

At the combine, Brock was measured at 6'0 5/8 - so a smidge under 6'1. I think that's about as short as I'd want my qb.

a lot of QBs fall in that 6'0 to 6'1 range - Hurts measured an even 6'1. Tua was an even 6'0. Drew Bree's was like just under 6'0 at 5'11 5/8 or something.

Regarding young's weight, I'd be shocked if he was 200, too. Lol I view him more along the devonta smith weight.
Dec 7, 2023 at 5:32 PM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Purdy is listed at 6'0"" and 212 lbs. is that accurate? I thought he was 6'1", but just saw that Bryce Young is listed at 5'10" and 204 lbs. I would NEVER EVER EVER want a QB under 6', but if that dude weighs over 200 lbs, I'm having a romantic dinner with the pope tonight.

Purdy's combine numbers: 6' 0⅝", 212 lbs

same size as Baker. Like and inch and a half shorter than Steve young.

Brock is actually taller than Steve young by a hair.

"He was traded to San Francisco after his second year with the Bucs for second- and fourth-round draft choices. And the rest is history. Notes from an actual scouting report Gil Brandt wrote on Young for Dallas in December of 1983: Young is 6-0½, 205 pounds, and runs the 40-yard dash in 4.55"

Back before the mid-late 2000s, 99% of players lied about their height and weight. They inflated them to make them sound like better prospects. I've met montana, and sure he was older and most likely shrunk some, but I highly doubt he was ever 6'2. Lol

this is why I always laugh when people
try to say Brock is small. He's really not. He's just
not huge like Trevor Lawrence but he isn't small like drew Bree's, Russell Wilson, or Bryce young. He's along the ACTUAL heights of a majority of players.
[ Edited by tankle104 on Dec 7, 2023 at 5:34 PM ]
Dec 7, 2023 at 5:41 PM
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:


Lombardi also sees a lot similarities between Joe and Brock - Rhythm, accuracy, athleticism, timing.

All I was trying to say Mike.
Dec 7, 2023 at 5:46 PM
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:


Lombardi also sees a lot similarities between Joe and Brock - Rhythm, accuracy, athleticism, timing.

All I was trying to say Mike.

Brock has shown a lot of great traits that the best QBs do. It's really fun to watch.

the first thing about him that caught my eye when he played was his confidence, composure, and command of the huddle. It was like he had always been out there and this team always been his. It was almost like an instant match made in heaven.

i just want to see him keep it up. I love the consistency behind it so far.
Dec 7, 2023 at 5:48 PM
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:


Lombardi also sees a lot similarities between Joe and Brock - Rhythm, accuracy, athleticism, timing.

Hey I hope so…this has nothing to do with what he said about Brock….I just think Lombardi is a horses ass. Overall never been a fan of his takes
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