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Originally posted by thl408:
If Brock was taller, he may have been considered a better prospect and not been there at pick #262. I love that he is agile and elusive with that short area quickness. To me, that is more helpful than being a couple inches taller. He has no issues seeing over the interior OL to throw to the middle of the field, and doesn't get passes batted down.
Originally posted by thl408:Originally posted by CatchMaster80:Pointing out a QBs height, weight or 40 time are facts. Saying he's great or elite are subjective statements. It's obviously not a necessity that successful QBs need to be over 6'3" and 230 lbs or run a 4.5 40. Size can be an asset but they aren't a guarantee of success. Same for speed. The ideal QB would have the size, speed and all the other traits that make a QB great. Very few in history have had the entire package.
If Brock was taller, he may have been considered a better prospect and not been there at pick #262. I love that he is agile and elusive with that short area quickness. To me, that is more helpful than being a couple inches taller. He has no issues seeing over the interior OL to throw to the middle of the field, and doesn't get passes batted down.
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Pointing out a QBs height, weight or 40 time are facts. Saying he's great or elite are subjective statements. It's obviously not a necessity that successful QBs need to be over 6'3" and 230 lbs or run a 4.5 40. Size can be an asset but they aren't a guarantee of success. Same for speed. The ideal QB would have the size, speed and all the other traits that make a QB great. Very few in history have had the entire package.
If Brock was taller, he may have been considered a better prospect and not been there at pick #262. I love that he is agile and elusive with that short area quickness. To me, that is more helpful than being a couple inches taller. He has no issues seeing over the interior OL to throw to the middle of the field, and doesn't get passes batted down.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
You guys are posting completely FAKE numbers. Steve Young was never 6'2". Brees was never 6'1". The Wiki Young page is completely wrong.
Drew Brees 6'0" 209 lbs. = Purdy taller and bigger.
Steve Young 6'1" 215 lbs. = Purdy same size.
Joe Montana 6'2" 205 lbs. = Purdy 1 inch shorter and a more solid and sturdy build. Montana had little bird legs.
Tua Tagovailoa 6'1" 227 lbs. = Purdy the same height and some have him listed around 220 lbs. So it's not that far off really.
Russell Wilson 5'10" 215 lbs. = Purdy is significantly taller.
Kyler Murray 5'10" 207 lbs. = Purdy is significantly taller and bigger and more sturdy too.
All kinds of QB's past and present have played at that size or below what Purdy is. Including some very successful ones. So stop obsessing about it so much.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Pointing out a QBs height, weight or 40 time are facts. Saying he's great or elite are subjective statements. It's obviously not a necessity that successful QBs need to be over 6'3" and 230 lbs or run a 4.5 40. Size can be an asset but they aren't a guarantee of success. Same for speed. The ideal QB would have the size, speed and all the other traits that make a QB great. Very few in history have had the entire package.
If Brock was taller, he may have been considered a better prospect and not been there at pick #262. I love that he is agile and elusive with that short area quickness. To me, that is more helpful than being a couple inches taller. He has no issues seeing over the interior OL to throw to the middle of the field, and doesn't get passes batted down.
He does get passes batted down. That may be because the defenses are penetrating but he does get passes knocked down. I think we saw one on the first or second drive last week. Getting passes blocked at the line isn't always because of height. Arm length and delivery are part of it as well. I agree that if Brock's combine numbers were better he would have been drafted much earlier. He probably wouldn't have been playing at Iowa State either.
Originally posted by RickyRoma:
Originally posted by thl408:
If Brock was taller, he may have been considered a better prospect and not been there at pick #262. I love that he is agile and elusive with that short area quickness. To me, that is more helpful than being a couple inches taller. He has no issues seeing over the interior OL to throw to the middle of the field, and doesn't get passes batted down.
If Brock was taller, he probably wouldn't be a 49er.....which means he's the perfect height.
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Pointing out a QBs height, weight or 40 time are facts. Saying he's great or elite are subjective statements. It's obviously not a necessity that successful QBs need to be over 6'3" and 230 lbs or run a 4.5 40. Size can be an asset but they aren't a guarantee of success. Same for speed. The ideal QB would have the size, speed and all the other traits that make a QB great. Very few in history have had the entire package.
If Brock was taller, he may have been considered a better prospect and not been there at pick #262. I love that he is agile and elusive with that short area quickness. To me, that is more helpful than being a couple inches taller. He has no issues seeing over the interior OL to throw to the middle of the field, and doesn't get passes batted down.
He does get passes batted down. That may be because the defenses are penetrating but he does get passes knocked down. I think we saw one on the first or second drive last week. Getting passes blocked at the line isn't always because of height. Arm length and delivery are part of it as well. I agree that if Brock's combine numbers were better he would have been drafted much earlier. He probably wouldn't have been playing at Iowa State either.
You're right, it does happen occasionally. I wouldn't consider it a problem because I think it happens from DL knowing he throws on rhythm, so once he completes his dropback, that ball is usually coming out. So DL put their arms up.
Here's a fun stat. Do you want to see who led the NFL in passes batted at the line last year?
— Aaron Schatz 🏈 (@ASchatzNFL) May 23, 2022
Josh Allen (6-5), Justin Herbert (6-6) and Ben Roethlisberger (6-5), in that order.
Passes batted down have nothing to do with QB height.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
This part I'm not as sure about, he does get a few of these periodically. IDK if it's more than other QBs though. Anyone got those stats?
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
You guys are posting completely FAKE numbers. Steve Young was never 6'2". Brees was never 6'1". The Wiki Young page is completely wrong.
Drew Brees 6'0" 209 lbs. = Purdy taller and bigger.
Steve Young 6'1" 215 lbs. = Purdy same size.
Joe Montana 6'2" 205 lbs. = Purdy 1 inch shorter and a more solid and sturdy build. Montana had little bird legs.
Tua Tagovailoa 6'1" 227 lbs. = Purdy the same height and some have him listed around 220 lbs. So it's not that far off really.
Russell Wilson 5'10" 215 lbs. = Purdy is significantly taller.
Kyler Murray 5'10" 207 lbs. = Purdy is significantly taller and bigger and more sturdy too.
All kinds of QB's past and present have played at that size or below what Purdy is. Including some very successful ones. So stop obsessing about it so much.
right, the numbers being thrown around about these guys heights, specifically the guys who played years/decades ago, aren't accurate.
Purdy is also only an inch shorter than guys like mahommes, watson, trubisky etc.
i love Brock! Eff it and eff all the other QBs (except montana and young). Lol
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Pointing out a QBs height, weight or 40 time are facts. Saying he's great or elite are subjective statements. It's obviously not a necessity that successful QBs need to be over 6'3" and 230 lbs or run a 4.5 40. Size can be an asset but they aren't a guarantee of success. Same for speed. The ideal QB would have the size, speed and all the other traits that make a QB great. Very few in history have had the entire package.
If Brock was taller, he may have been considered a better prospect and not been there at pick #262. I love that he is agile and elusive with that short area quickness. To me, that is more helpful than being a couple inches taller. He has no issues seeing over the interior OL to throw to the middle of the field, and doesn't get passes batted down.
He does get passes batted down. That may be because the defenses are penetrating but he does get passes knocked down. I think we saw one on the first or second drive last week. Getting passes blocked at the line isn't always because of height. Arm length and delivery are part of it as well. I agree that if Brock's combine numbers were better he would have been drafted much earlier. He probably wouldn't have been playing at Iowa State either.
You're right, it does happen occasionally. I wouldn't consider it a problem because I think it happens from DL knowing he throws on rhythm, so once he completes his dropback, that ball is usually coming out. So DL put their arms up.
This is from 2021 season I believe, but height doesn't necessarily correlate to batted down passes. There are a lot of variables, as well as the o line doing their job to keep guys arms down. Especially when you have 6'8 guys like armstesd - idc how tall anyone is throwing the ball in that case. Lol
Here's a fun stat. Do you want to see who led the NFL in passes batted at the line last year?
— Aaron Schatz 🏈 (@ASchatzNFL) May 23, 2022
Josh Allen (6-5), Justin Herbert (6-6) and Ben Roethlisberger (6-5), in that order.
Passes batted down have nothing to do with QB height.
Originally posted by thl408:
Thanks for busting that myth. 6-6 Herbert being one of the leaders at getting passes batted down is surprising. I suppose it's more about the trajectory of the ball as it leaves the QB's hands. Herbert seems to sidearm a lot which lowers the initial trajectory.
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Pointing out a QBs height, weight or 40 time are facts. Saying he's great or elite are subjective statements. It's obviously not a necessity that successful QBs need to be over 6'3" and 230 lbs or run a 4.5 40. Size can be an asset but they aren't a guarantee of success. Same for speed. The ideal QB would have the size, speed and all the other traits that make a QB great. Very few in history have had the entire package.
If Brock was taller, he may have been considered a better prospect and not been there at pick #262. I love that he is agile and elusive with that short area quickness. To me, that is more helpful than being a couple inches taller. He has no issues seeing over the interior OL to throw to the middle of the field, and doesn't get passes batted down.
He does get passes batted down. That may be because the defenses are penetrating but he does get passes knocked down. I think we saw one on the first or second drive last week. Getting passes blocked at the line isn't always because of height. Arm length and delivery are part of it as well. I agree that if Brock's combine numbers were better he would have been drafted much earlier. He probably wouldn't have been playing at Iowa State either.
You're right, it does happen occasionally. I wouldn't consider it a problem because I think it happens from DL knowing he throws on rhythm, so once he completes his dropback, that ball is usually coming out. So DL put their arms up.
This is from 2021 season I believe, but height doesn't necessarily correlate to batted down passes. There are a lot of variables, as well as the o line doing their job to keep guys arms down. Especially when you have 6'8 guys like armstesd - idc how tall anyone is throwing the ball in that case. Lol
Here's a fun stat. Do you want to see who led the NFL in passes batted at the line last year?
— Aaron Schatz 🏈 (@ASchatzNFL) May 23, 2022
Josh Allen (6-5), Justin Herbert (6-6) and Ben Roethlisberger (6-5), in that order.
Passes batted down have nothing to do with QB height.
Thanks for busting that myth. 6-6 Herbert being one of the leaders at getting passes batted down is surprising. I suppose it's more about the trajectory of the ball as it leaves the QB's hands. Herbert seems to sidearm a lot which lowers the initial trajectory.
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
i don't remember russell wilson getting balls batted regularly
