QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by BMoore56:
Brees real height was like 5'11 .. he was never 6'1 🤣🤣

Yeah I guess they lie at the combine

They rounded up for whatever reason. He is not 6-1.

His exact height measured was 72.3 inches, or 6' 1/2" though another source says 6 1/4"

https://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?f=Drew&l=Brees&i=5788

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/draft/2001-combine.htm

https://draftscout.com/dsprofile.php?PlayerId=196&DraftYear=2001

IDK why this matters that much to everyone but whatever. I remember repeatedly this being discussed on TV.

People are confusing his height with Russell Wilson. RW is sub 6' while Drew was 6' 1/2"

Either way Brock is above both so why does this matter again?

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by thl408:
If Brock was taller, he may have been considered a better prospect and not been there at pick #262. I love that he is agile and elusive with that short area quickness. To me, that is more helpful than being a couple inches taller. He has no issues seeing over the interior OL to throw to the middle of the field, and doesn't get passes batted down.

If Brock was taller, he probably wouldn't be a 49er.....which means he's the perfect height.

Lmao that's most likely true.

also, if the teams knew his arm strength was going to dramatically improve between the end of his senior year and training camp - he would of been selected a lot higher.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
i don't remember russell wilson getting balls batted regularly

Because he would run around and find the open lanes and also run outside the pocket to throw. He would also do 15 yard drop backs.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Pointing out a QBs height, weight or 40 time are facts. Saying he's great or elite are subjective statements. It's obviously not a necessity that successful QBs need to be over 6'3" and 230 lbs or run a 4.5 40. Size can be an asset but they aren't a guarantee of success. Same for speed. The ideal QB would have the size, speed and all the other traits that make a QB great. Very few in history have had the entire package.

If Brock was taller, he may have been considered a better prospect and not been there at pick #262. I love that he is agile and elusive with that short area quickness. To me, that is more helpful than being a couple inches taller. He has no issues seeing over the interior OL to throw to the middle of the field, and doesn't get passes batted down.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Pointing out a QBs height, weight or 40 time are facts. Saying he's great or elite are subjective statements. It's obviously not a necessity that successful QBs need to be over 6'3" and 230 lbs or run a 4.5 40. Size can be an asset but they aren't a guarantee of success. Same for speed. The ideal QB would have the size, speed and all the other traits that make a QB great. Very few in history have had the entire package.

If Brock was taller, he may have been considered a better prospect and not been there at pick #262. I love that he is agile and elusive with that short area quickness. To me, that is more helpful than being a couple inches taller. He has no issues seeing over the interior OL to throw to the middle of the field, and doesn't get passes batted down.

Passes being knocked down are also attributable to the OLine.

OLinemen need to know the timing of those passes so they can punch the DLinemen in the stomach just before those passes are thrown.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Pointing out a QBs height, weight or 40 time are facts. Saying he's great or elite are subjective statements. It's obviously not a necessity that successful QBs need to be over 6'3" and 230 lbs or run a 4.5 40. Size can be an asset but they aren't a guarantee of success. Same for speed. The ideal QB would have the size, speed and all the other traits that make a QB great. Very few in history have had the entire package.

If Brock was taller, he may have been considered a better prospect and not been there at pick #262. I love that he is agile and elusive with that short area quickness. To me, that is more helpful than being a couple inches taller. He has no issues seeing over the interior OL to throw to the middle of the field, and doesn't get passes batted down.

Passes being knocked down are also attributable to the OLine.

OLinemen need to know the timing of those passes so they can punch the DLinemen in the stomach just before those passes are thrown.

OL won't know the timing. They can only react to what the DL is doing

you don't get that many batted balls from shorter QBs cause they need to get the ball over the OL also.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Pointing out a QBs height, weight or 40 time are facts. Saying he's great or elite are subjective statements. It's obviously not a necessity that successful QBs need to be over 6'3" and 230 lbs or run a 4.5 40. Size can be an asset but they aren't a guarantee of success. Same for speed. The ideal QB would have the size, speed and all the other traits that make a QB great. Very few in history have had the entire package.

If Brock was taller, he may have been considered a better prospect and not been there at pick #262. I love that he is agile and elusive with that short area quickness. To me, that is more helpful than being a couple inches taller. He has no issues seeing over the interior OL to throw to the middle of the field, and doesn't get passes batted down.

Passes being knocked down are also attributable to the OLine.

OLinemen need to know the timing of those passes so they can punch the DLinemen in the stomach just before those passes are thrown.

OL won't know the timing. They can only react to what the DL is doing

you don't get that many batted balls from shorter QBs cause they need to get the ball over the OL also.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
i don't remember russell wilson getting balls batted regularly

Because he would run around and find the open lanes and also run outside the pocket to throw. He would also do 15 yard drop backs.

obviously im referring to him in the pocket

Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Pointing out a QBs height, weight or 40 time are facts. Saying he's great or elite are subjective statements. It's obviously not a necessity that successful QBs need to be over 6'3" and 230 lbs or run a 4.5 40. Size can be an asset but they aren't a guarantee of success. Same for speed. The ideal QB would have the size, speed and all the other traits that make a QB great. Very few in history have had the entire package.

If Brock was taller, he may have been considered a better prospect and not been there at pick #262. I love that he is agile and elusive with that short area quickness. To me, that is more helpful than being a couple inches taller. He has no issues seeing over the interior OL to throw to the middle of the field, and doesn't get passes batted down.

He does get passes batted down. That may be because the defenses are penetrating but he does get passes knocked down. I think we saw one on the first or second drive last week. Getting passes blocked at the line isn't always because of height. Arm length and delivery are part of it as well. I agree that if Brock's combine numbers were better he would have been drafted much earlier. He probably wouldn't have been playing at Iowa State either.

You're right, it does happen occasionally. I wouldn't consider it a problem because I think it happens from DL knowing he throws on rhythm, so once he completes his dropback, that ball is usually coming out. So DL put their arms up.

This is from 2021 season I believe, but height doesn't necessarily correlate to batted down passes. There are a lot of variables, as well as the o line doing their job to keep guys arms down. Especially when you have 6'8 guys like armstesd - idc how tall anyone is throwing the ball in that case. Lol

Here's a fun stat. Do you want to see who led the NFL in passes batted at the line last year?

Josh Allen (6-5), Justin Herbert (6-6) and Ben Roethlisberger (6-5), in that order.

Passes batted down have nothing to do with QB height.

— Aaron Schatz 🏈 (@ASchatzNFL) May 23, 2022

Thanks for busting that myth. 6-6 Herbert being one of the leaders at getting passes batted down is surprising. I suppose it's more about the trajectory of the ball as it leaves the QB's hands. Herbert seems to sidearm a lot which lowers the initial trajectory.

I assume you get more passes batted if you are a QB that likes to pass from the pocket. If a QB likes to roll out to pass, they will have less passes batted down.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
i don't remember russell wilson getting balls batted regularly

Because he would run around and find the open lanes and also run outside the pocket to throw. He would also do 15 yard drop backs.

obviously im referring to him in the pocket

He's good at finding open lanes. Also height is overrated. You just want a QB who can play. You don't want 6'4" 225 lbs. with a 10 cent head and can't read a defense. Those guys fail.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by thl408:
If Brock was taller, he may have been considered a better prospect and not been there at pick #262. I love that he is agile and elusive with that short area quickness. To me, that is more helpful than being a couple inches taller. He has no issues seeing over the interior OL to throw to the middle of the field, and doesn't get passes batted down.

If Brock was taller, he probably wouldn't be a 49er.....which means he's the perfect height.

Lmao that's most likely true.

also, if the teams knew his arm strength was going to dramatically improve between the end of his senior year and training camp - he would of been selected a lot higher.

Yeach but that *insane* Drew Brees accuracy though. (Drew was a 2nd round pick)

Originally posted by tankle104:
You know what I loved most about the Brock and Saban story? Is that when Saban said Brock's accuracy was average - Brock knew hr was full of s**t because Brock knows he's super accurate. Lol gotta love that confidence.

Originally posted by dj43:
Here is for all the haters out there.

Let them hate.#FTTB

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— 49erscast (@49erscast1) December 7, 2023

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
yup, trey is 6'4" and i remember him getting balls tipped quite a bit